Old birds wanna join the coop???

Wow Fankle what fantastic news very, very pleased for you x

WOW Fankle that's wonderful news huge CONGRATULATIONS! :) x

Good morning all. Hope everyone is doing a bit better.

I'm ecstatic and still in a state of shock but here is an old bird reporting her first BFP in over 2 years!! I poas last night after AF was 2 days late. Was so scared to test as I've been tricked by my body so many times before.

Very happy

You're right, the waiting is definitely the worst bit.

I have started taking maca powder each day as it is meant to regulate hormones. Vitex is also meant to be excellent. Have you tried either of these?

I know sebsmummy. That's one of the reasons I pushed for all the tests. They even gave me 4 months worth of progesterone pessaries to see if that was the cause, but I still got the spotting.

Yes I don't get proper red bleeding until dpo14/15, but I get some brownion once or twice from about 7dpo. But then on other months I don't get it until a day or so before I get the proper period. It's really annoying.

When I was temping, my temperature would dip on the same day and even though it went back up, it rarely went back up as high as it had been. Hence why I thought it was progesterone related. But all my tests were clear aswell as my lap and dye so I've got no idea wheat causes it...

I do suffer with cervical erosions but I can't see how/why they would be triggered...

Sorry that you've started spotting sebsmummy... I found the waiting the worst bit... xxx

Kegirl, it's actually really unusual for your lutuel phase to change per cycle. It can change obviously due to mc or some large hormone shift, but not move about on a monthly basis. Are you just saying you get breakthrough bleeding at different times in the month but your period stays the same?

I'm fine thankfully (and absolutely with no credit being given to anyone medical - pure luck). I started spotting yesterday and today a little more so I suspect I will bleed out soon and then will get neg hpts after the bleed (this happened with my 1st mc. Didn't get a neg hpt until after my first period afterwards).

No pain, I can only think that the egg tried to hang on after implantation and my subsequent AF and some tissue got left behind or something so was still generating some hcg, but not very much.

I read an extremely sad post today from a regular who had got to 17 weeks after recurrent miscarriages and has posted today to say her baby's heartbeat could not be found in the last scan on Monday. It puts my incredibly early miscarriages into perspective and makes me realise how lucky I am in many ways.

Hand holding to everyone who needs it today xx

Ahhh sorry spinning.

I am out this month already on only 6/7 dpo as I had some brown cm when I wiped yesterday. It's so annoying, one month I get brown cm on 12 or 13 dpo and the next month I get it on 6dpo, what's that about? Almost like one side just isn't working properly, but I am not too down this month. My new dress never arrived so I went back to the shop and tried on some more. Found an amazing one, bright pink, beautiful and it was half the price of the other one, £80 down from £200!!!

And I wouldn't be able to wear it if I was pregnant, so I don't feel too bad.

Anymore news sebsmummy? Any bleeding or pain?

Af rudely arrived yesterday afternoon

On a positive note, a lady on the May ttc thread got a bfp and she's 43 so it does happen for us oldies! Thinking positive thoughts for next cycle.

Hi stubborn. I've decided to just pay for some tests as im sick of begging. I had my thyroid tested about 6 months ago and was told it was fine so I'm thinking the day 21 test would be a good starting point.

Loafs of baby dust for you. Hope your tests highlight something that's easily corrected xxx

Lots of blood tests going on at the mo!

The doctor managed to fit me in on day 2 yesterday, for the day 3 bloods IYSWIM....Lots of little vials waiting to be tested for all kinds of hormones'n'things! I was glad to find out that they were testing for thyroid levels too without being prompted.

The doctor said that my progesterone levels were a bit on the low side, according to the Day 21 test, but she's pretty sure I ovulated, and maybe the unexpected shortness of this month's cycle messed things up. But we're going to repeat the test in the coming cycle.

How are you doing sebsmummy? I wish I could smuggle you into my doctor's, but as you can see, there are lots of better GPs out there, so I'm sure there's one local to you

spinning keeping my fingers crossed you!! Xx

Hi ladies :)

Sebsmummy....really hope you get some answers soon, what an awful wait for you!

Tranquil...pleased to hear you've got lovely friends and family supporting you

I'm 14dpo, poas (ic) which says bfn. Had a little brown spotting yesterday which I never get. Haven't had af symptoms but don't feel pregnant either. I suspect af will soon be here though!

Hope everyone enjoys the bank holiday weekend :)

Patch I would kill for you GP!! You are so lucky. Fingers crossed for you xxx

Been to gp. Booked in with nurse for swabs in 2 weeks, week after that with technician for bloods. Then as the surgery has ultrasound Dr is booking me in to check for blockages. Dh has to book and then do his contribution. Find it weird they treat you as individuals and then you have to give them permission to put them together. I thought that would be obvious if you'd gone for help in the first place. Bit scared as petrified of needles. Must say so on my records as gp was brilliant and said they would help as much as possible. Could be quite quick depending on results. She will make a decision and maybe refer to fertility specialist at hospital if something/nothing shows up on all tests.

Your experience is so similar to mind Fankle I don't understand how it can change so quickly. Like you we've both had the various tests and everything has come back as normal It feels like the mc flicked a switch and changed things. I think it's time for me to look at IUI or IVF. Good luck with your IUI I hope you're going to keep us updated :)

I've just had the results of my day 3 bloods, I've been told they're 'normal' but my LH is 5.9 and my FSH is 9.0, I think my FSH is too high for day 3 bloods, anyone else understand this result?

Inshock - your story sounds a lot like mine. My only ever BFP was in December 2011 (only our 3rd cycle ttc). I had some bleeding around 6 weeks so got an early scan at 6 wk 5 days and was reassured when they found a heartbeat. Baby was measuring small though and they told me that if I was going to miscarry, there was nothing anyone could do to prevent it. But I was just relieved that all was ok. The bleeding stopped for about a week but when it returned it was a bit worse than the first time. I knew it wasn't good so went for another scan...I was nearly 8 weeks by that time. However, no heartbeat was detected. How awful that moment was. I miscarried naturally about 10 days later, but it was painful and awful and I bled a lot for a good couple of weeks.

That was Jan 2012. I was 32.

Fast forward to now and basically bugger all has happened! I'm now 35 and feel like life has been on hold for a very long time. All tests show everything to be fine with both of us. A laparoscopy in January showed mild endo, but that shouldn't really deter conception too much.

Moving on to IUI in July.....

Tranquility and Sebs - I am thinking of you and hoping you're bearing up ok. What a trauma to go through.

I hope you all manage to enjoy the bank holiday weekend. (I'm waiting for AF to show so that will be fun).

Hi all (waves to everyone) :)

It's good to hear you're being well supported Tranquility When I suffered my mc I found out by attending a scan when I was 9 weeks, I'd experienced bleeding 2 weeks earlier hence the scan at 9 weeks, I knew something was wrong just by watching the sonographer's face, 2 weeks earlier we'd all been squinting at the screen and looking at a faint flick of a heartbeat, this time there was a long pause before she said anything, I knew the heartbeat wasn't there. I was very lucky because I mc naturally a week later without a lot of pain or bleeding and my cycles returned to normal straight away. If I'm honest, I was really upset but got over it very quickly because haven't conceived the first month of ttc I thought it was going to happen that easily again, I found the months that followed the hardest because I didn't fall pregnant again. Now I just think that pregnancy wasn't meant to be, the outcome was out of my control. x

Stubborn I'm now looking for a May Day maypole dance to gatecrash! :)

How's everyone doing?

I'm still hitting the caffeine, wine, chocolate - so fair off the healthy regime now it's gonna be hard to get back on it! But... I feel so much happier in myself! and it's not because I'm drunk :)

seb i really hope you don't have the same outcome as me but although it doesn't feel like it right now I was lucky, once they realised they assured me everything was in hand and I was safe. Pls keep me updated. X

kegirl I'm ok, not needed any painkillers today which is good, but keep crying every day and it's engulfing. Loss is so hard isn't it. I have so many questions that'll never be answered. Those of you that have suffered losses, how did you cope? My friends have been lovely, I've got 4 bouquets of flowers here (although I cried each time one was delivered) and they've been texting me.

I *think I want to try again in time but lots to think about first and can't do anything for 3 months anyway.

How are you all doing? Any symptoms? X

God Tranquility I was just reading back your posts and I have exactly the same hcg level as you at exactly the same cd - cd13. It's so fucking scary that in a few days time out endings could be exactly the same.

Are you saying I'm a mouthy git ginger???

I'm good thank you - sorry been ordering stuff and planning dd's 'frozen' birthday party, I have been reading a keeping up with what's been going on though!!!

sebsmum it is just wrong that clearly your gp has no clue. I hope this gets sorted for you once and for all. It does sound worrying if I'm honest... your hcg level went up like mine. Not doubling but still rising which worried them.

stubborn, fab attitude hun. My dd goes to a little village school and the village are having a may fayre on Monday. There is a fancy dress parade, loads of stalls and some of the children are doing maypole dancing!! Really looking forward to it.

How you doing tranquility? Big waveso, fankle, inshock and patch. Sorry if I've missed anyone.

Brilliant Stubborn! I would be rubbing myself up against every one of those dancers! Sounds like a nice event- don't think we have anything like that up north (wondering where these May Day festivals actually take place...?!)but I read a few days ago about Beltane. Really interesting, if a bit woo! Good luck! And glad to hear you are feeling positive despite AF showing. Mine is due tomorrow but I haven't had many pms symptoms at all this month.

Sebsmummy- you need to go with your gut feeling and pester them until they take your concerns easily. Easier said than done I know (I'm not exactly a 'pusher' myself....until I become enraged. Then I emphatically put my point across. That is how I got my laparoscopy and subsequent discovery of mild endo! Just keep at them. Fingers crossed for you.

Ginger- I couldn't possibly out myself in that way :-)

Well, I started spotting yesterday, and now AF has turned up. Two days early FFS . As I normally have 26 day cycles, that means this month's was 24 days- which is pretty bloody useless.

I really don't know what's going on with my body at the moment. Pretty much from the moment we started trying TTC (or actually a couple of weeks before) it went all weird. Loads of cramping/stabby pains leading up to AF- when I've pretty much never had any significant period pains before. And now my cycle shortening...fuck.

However, I actually woke up this morning feeling very healthy, energetic and well- for what seems like the first time in months. New cycle, new leaf! I have just ordered "Taking Control of your Fertility", am going to dig out thermometer, pen and paper to keep next to the bed in order to start charting tomorrow morning, and am about to call the docs to arrange the 3 day test....except that the time frame for this will fall completely over the bank Holiday weekend!

Also, I have decided to embrace the woo. I met a heavily pregnant, heavily hippy acquaintance the other day, and she told me that they spent a year trying to conceive, with three early MCs in that year, yet she managed to remain positive, just saying "the baby will come when the time's right", etc. OK, I shall try to embrace this mentality!

On another kind of woo note- today is May Day! Which is the pagan fertility festival of Beltane! Later on today I will be going to DS's (highly hippy) pre school to take part in the May Day festival and watch the kids dancing around the giant phallus maypole! That's got to be good fertility karma!

In addition, next week is the highly bizarre May celebration in our nearby town. 5 years ago I was there and clapped my friend, who was dancing,completely covered in greenery, on the shoulder. 5 days later- BFP. Powerful magic, I tell you......Now, I don't think I know anyone who's dancing this year, so I have to get near enough to touch one of the dressed-as-a-bush dancers without them noticing......

Tranquility I just don't know what to think anymore. They won't scan me, he reiterated that on the phone, he wants to wait until I get Fridays bloods back and I wont get those until Tuesday die to the bank holiday weekend.

I have no pain or bleeding. Lots of milky white discharge consistent with pregnancy and light pain in the side of my boobs, that's it.

Would a private scan show anything do you think?

Pm me that should say