Old birds wanna join the coop???

Ok, on the 2ww and am trying hard not to symptom-spot.

So the sore tingly boobs, swollen tummy, constant hunger, metallic taste in my mouth, tearfulness and odd desire to eat celery are just me being ridiculous. Aren't they?

Katniss gotta love Pennywell hopefully the weather will be fantastic again, plenty for your dd to do if not though. I'll be over to N A on Thurs as dd has managed to break her brace so I'll make sure to cast lots of baby dust around as I'm driving

Ginger Yes I should say it's done the trick, DH is very excited, it's me that is still in shock! Just cannot believe it's real.

I'm over to Pennywell at the weekend so maybe I could do a slight diversion Mampam - LOL

I'm 10DPO at the moment so AF should turn up in 4 days.

I usually start getting coloured CM about 5 or 6 days before AF. Maybe just one wipe's worth a day, the rest of the day it will be normal. It's happened every month maybe so I'm pretty confident that AF will turn up. Usually from about 12DPO the CM has some streaks of red and then AF turns up properly either the next day or the day after.

So pretty much by 10DPO I know it's over. But I can't do anything until AF turns up. I still sometimes POAS even though I know there's no hope. But if it did come up as BFP, I wouldn't be happy because I'd know that something was wrong because any pre-AF bleeding with me as led to MC.

Plus, if it was Implementation Bleeding it would be more than just the odd wipe, I believe...

Trouble is, I want to eat loads of chocolate because I feel crap about AF but I'm supposed to be dieting - ggrrrrrrrr...

Thanks Katniss maybe there's something funny in the water in this part of the South Hams, perhaps you need to get over to these parts for a cream tea at the weekend!? You never know it might be catching.

I ordered some internet cheapies last week and they only took about 3 days to arrive. When is AF actually due?

Katniss are you sure you shouldn't POAS?? I usually only get a few hours or max one day of coloured mucus (bleurgh) before AF shows up. I wouldn't be able to resist in your shoes, but you are being very sensible.

Huge congrats to Mampam, what lovely news. And yes, defo go for the job as intended if you want to.

Gingerbread I haven't even heard of Agnus Cactus but shall pop into Holland and Barratt next time I'm passing and stock up?? Any others? Thank you!

By the way, still apply for the job. If you had filled in the application form yesterday, you really wouldn't have known!! So go for it. x

Mampam!!!!! Woohoo!!!! That is fab news!! Two BFPs for the thread. That is fantastic!! I had a funny feeling in my water about you . Pass some of that good luck down to me via Totnes will you???

I almost did an internet cheapie this morning (just to confirm that I'm NOT PG) and realized I only had one left. So I'll order some more and won't allow myself to test until they've arrived. I know that by then AF will be in full swing so I'll have to wait until next month.

You're absolutely right about the clotted cream by the way. Tastes damn good though!!

xx

Sorry that link didn't work here

Morning, how is everyone feeling today? I agree with Ginger that you will know when the time is right to take a break Katniss and Maybe. Has anyone ever read Zita West's fertility book? It's a good read and it gives case studies too of all sorts of scenarios, here is the link "http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fertility-Conception-Zita-West/dp/1409346773/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1394534747&sr=1-4&keywords=zita+west#reader_1409346773" might be worth a read, I swear it was this book that got me pg with dc3.

Ginger The only problem with all the clotted cream (and pasties) and correct me if I'm wrong Katniss is that it does nothing for the figure a moment on lips...............

Yesterday I POA(very cheapy)S and thought maybe there could be the faintest of faintest lines in a certain light if you stared at it very hard!! Did another cheapy test this morning first thing and thought I could see another very faint line so asked DH his opinion. He said he could see something but told me to wait until the weekend to see. Ignoring him I went off and did a First Response and yep BFP!

I'm shocked to be honest, I wasn't mentally prepared for a positive result. I still feel like AF could come at any moment so not going to get my hopes up. What should I do about my job application? Should I apply for the job anyway and if I got it pretend I had no idea or just leave it? WWYD?

Morning all,

Reposting your link Ginger, hopefully it will work when you click on it.

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/07/how-long-can-you-wait-to-have-a-baby/309374/

AF isn't quite here but the coloured CM is so it should be here in the next few days. I haven't been taking Folic Acid for months now because I found it too depressing, but then my mind starts stupid things like saying 'maybe that's why I haven't got the BFP' so this month I will take it once AF has gone.

Hope everyone is OK!!

Katniss I don't know when or how to make that decision. I think for me, I can take another few months of disappointment before I stop trying, but in all honesty I'm never going to go back on contraception and so I'm never going to give up hope - I'll just drink more and stop taking pregnacare vitamins!

You'll feel better in a few days once AF has left. Onwards and upwards.

I'm also worried as while my cycles are longer (consisten 37-41 days since October) AF is only visiting for three days at a time. Does this ring any bells with anyone?

I have a very good friend who uses that orthodontist mampam .

So had some more old-blood-tinged cm today so know I'm out this month. Just need her to turn up properly now so we can start the next cycle. A bit fed up but feel ok.

But every month at this time I ask myself how I'm going to make the decision that enough is enough. We've already agreed that we wouldn't go down the ivf route because we have dd, but we need to make a decision at some point. Has anyone else thought about that? Sounds a bit defeatest I know, but it does play on my mind. I wonder if I would feel more relaxed and enjoy life once the decision is made??

I hope everyone is ok.

Thanks Mampam

You're right second time is much better. I met my ex husband at 22. We wanted very different things from life. Hence TTC at 39 with my lovely fiancé. I miscarries three months ago. My fiancé has two daughters from his first marriage which I really struggle with. In fact I hate it he has kids with someone else. But apart from that it's perfect

Hi all - this thread seems to be getting busy now!

Ginger I googled the research Earhat suggested but it came up with an article from Red magazine and a bunch of other websites actually refuting the research...so I gave up and forgot about it all weekend. If you could post the link that would be helpful, as I think I must have missed it. Or I'll look again later.

Are you nearing ov now or are you a bit of a late ov'er, like me? I've been ov'ing on CD16/17 lately and this is only day 10. I plan to try to take it easy this cycle and not do enforced daily shagging! Not sure whether to do opks this month...I guess I should decide soon though. Have also been allowing myself to indulge in more alcohol than usual this last week - naughty! But nice . I think I've definitely had maximum units this week.

How's everyone else? Enjoying the weather I hope. I hung out my washing this morning. I generally have problems with the passage of time/change of seasons because I tend to remember 'this time a year ago I wasn't pregnant and I'm still not pregnant' etc, but I do love the arrival of Spring

Newton Abbot Katniss is where DD1 goes to the orthodontist in Devon Square!! We actually live on the other side of the estuary from Salcombe but you have to drive to it through the back lanes roughly half way between Dartmouth and Kingsbridge.

I find with the symptom spotting I'm desperately seeking that something that wasn't there last month or a combination of lots of things, so many that it's unmistakable I'm pg!!! Doesn't seem to happen though. I do remember with DD1 and DS that I just knew but that was a long time ago and I was much younger (had DD1 when 19 and DS when I was 23).

In my post natal class when I had DD1 there were 3 women who used to joke about being old enough to be my mum (!) and I think the youngest of them was 38. One of them went on to have another too. Never give up hope and what exhausted says is definitely true about the body peaking. I have a friend who when she was 39 got preggers even though she had taken the morning after pill. I also know a woman older than me who was ttc#3 and is currently pregnant with #3 + #4!! not sure she was expecting that!!

maybe sorry you are feeling down at the moment. I too have long cycles and they are never the same length each month so I have no idea when I ovulate or 100% when to expect AF, it's very frustrating. Good luck with the doctors, I'm not sure what it means for fertility to have thyroid problems or PCOS though but hopefully they can help you

Thanks katniss - I love these boards as knowing it is really not just me, and that actually I'm very lucky indeed, is a bloody good reminder.

Ahhh my younger siblings were born in Torbay Hospital as was DD Mampam. I'm actually in Newton Abbot and head down your way quite a bit - love the South Hams!!

Sorry I didn't respond to your posts Maybe and sorry you're having such an awful time. You've stumbled on a supportive group here though, you can talk to us anytime. I work from home so I'm pretty much online a lot of the time...

We've all been through (and are going through) difficult times. If you do decide to go and see your GP, I hope you get an understanding one. I really did, they were quick at referring me because of my age and it really helps when people understand, or at least try to.

Mampam, I know what you mean about symptoms. I was convinced when I was PG with DD about the symptoms and it's not that you try and fail month after month that you realize the symptoms are the same. It doesn't stop you thinking 'what if' though EVERY time you get a symptom!!

Good luck to you aswell Mampam. Odds are it'll be one of us - and I hope it is, we deserve it. xx

It's a small world Katniss I know Torquay well, my grandparents lived in Brixham when I was a child and all my dc were born in Torbay hospital (I was too). I live between Kingsbridge and Dartmouth.

I hate the whole symptom spotting it's awful and we all do it. Unless you have unmistakable symptoms like I did with dc3.....boobs that were so sore I didn't know what to do with myself, I hated dh, went off wine, had a kfc that tasted too chickeny! ........ I guess a late af and a bfp is the only real way to tell and by the way, I had all of those symptoms staring me in the face but we were on our hols and it never once occurred to me, even though ttc, what it was! ........DOH. The wait post ovulation is horrid. I've got everything crossed for you. Lots of hugs being sent your way too.

Hi gingerbread I was late 30s took 6 years tc my first and now have two beautiful babies. Just be aware that yes at 35 fertility drops...but then whummf body peaks again so you might end up with twins!!

Sorry tranquility - realise we are in a similar situation in some ways and really don't want to dishearten you! Suspect my thyroid troubles, pcos and long cycles are a problem and that i should go to GP. Ugh.