About to start / Just started TTC no.2 (part 4)

You can eat prawns, so prawn crackers are fine :-)

I'm doing a big clean this weekend so the house is really clean before I how back to work on Thursday. It should be easier to maintain then. In theory!

Enjoy your shopping, mrs.

Hi everyone, what's everyone up to this weekend? I think we are planning a trip to mamas & papas as got given a gift card from work so want to go and get something for baby like a nice play mat or something. Hasn't really sunk in yet that I've finished work. Hope everyone has a good weekend. Oh can I ask a random question, I'm really liking Chinese food at the moment but can you eat prawn crackers when pregnant? I would have thought there's ok actual prawn in them and it's probably just flavouring but I don't know. Really fancying some tonight but wondered if anyone knew if they were allowed or not. x

gingerbread yes dd was conceived on my 23rd cycle. id had bloods taken to check I was Oving qnd dh had had a sperm count and both were normal he also has a dc who is almost 16 so it was obvious any problems were on my side. gingerbread it wasnt easy I almost left him as I knew how much he wanted a baby. In your case you have a child together so i hope you dont get feelings like that x
I (not we) got a letter and it was
headed 'infertility clinic' it was the most hurtful thing ive ever read. 3/4 weeks later I got my first bfp I only done 3 tests incase I got a bfn. then I forgot all about my trouble ttc its like I know it happened ans was brutal I would wish the complete disappointment you feel each unsuccessful month on anyone.
it did happen for us gingerbread and it happened naturally so I really think it will for you too but right now you putting too much pressure on yourself I dont know how to relive it, I gave up but you can't you have your dd to think about.
this is very deep and im not sure how much help but please take care of yourself xxx

Rum you are right it does make it hard when you already have a DC as you know how great it all is. It's such a funny one, as you feel guilty for feeling sht because you can't conceive when you already have a child, but it's just so hard to keep going and be happy everyday, to entertain them and keep them busy going to playgroup. I know people who don't have any would kill to be able to do that, but seeing DD so young and innocent it breaks my heart that she might grow up alone and I might not be able to provide a family for her. It just makes no sense either that if we could conceive DD so easily, why isn't it happening, we are both young and fit and healthy. Were you trying for 2 years for DD rum*? How on earth did you manage??
It's great that you are all still positive for me! I swing between thinking if it hasn't happened yet it never will, to thinking actually 8 months isn't all that long....
Swede at grandmother and at food shopping! I actually find myself pining for morning sickness!! Hope you manage to stomach more than crispbreads soon though, and yes maybe send DH out in future!
Hungry you might be right, I think what with my incessant negativity he is starting to wonder if something is up too, but being a man isn't very good at discussing his emotions. I am going to try my hardest to take a lighter approach with him, and try and have sex for fun a bit more! I have just started using the opks again today, cd 10, I bought some cheap ones to test with to begin with then will move onto the clearblue ones, isn't that what you did too? I have got my blood tests booked for 11th may, which will be cd21, but what with my late ov I think I will move them to 7 days post ov, hope I can squeeze in an appointment.
mrs a very happy friday for you! I am onto cycle 9 now, so we have been trying for 8 months. Went to see the gp last week, she was lovely and told me she wasn't worried for me, but was also a bit dismissive about any of my concerns, she has booked me in for blood tests though. We pretty much dtd from cd10 to 20 every 2 or 3 days then try and squeeze one or two more in before the end of the cycle. Don't think I could do it anymore! Sorry your sister is still being a selfish cow,families can be hard work can't they.

Hi everyone, happy Friday!
Ginger - i had wondered where you'd gone and had been thinking about you. I'm sorry to hear you're feeling like this and it's perfectly understandable. Ok so let's think, i started this thread at the beginning of september. How long have you been TTC? They do say it can take up to a year and that's if you're both healthy and fertile, which i'm sure you are. Can i ask, are you both DTD as much as you can to boost your chances? If not, maybe try DTD a bit more but maybe don't tell Dh that's why, try make it fun and relaxed. If you're really worried you could go see your gp just for a chat as i'm sure the'd reassure you that it's still not been that long or long enough to worry. As for men, they never understand the same as us. I'm sure my DH would be the same. I'm just trying to help and i really hope it happens for you soon. People are insensitive with things they say, look at my awful sister who said things like, 'oh i didn't think you'd have any more'. We haven't spoken or seen each other since november, definitely been 3 months and doubt that will change now after my DS's bday party in December. But not to dwell on that...Don't disapear completely anyway Ginger as we all want to help in any way we can, if we can x
Hi Kt - Congratulations on your scan! How are you feeling? Nice birthday for your second one. I was a september baby.
Hi Better - And thank you! Just 4 hours to go and i will be joining you in the SAHM Club and can't wait! Whereabouts are you by the way Better? Are ypou near enough to meet up? Did you just have gas and air then first time? I had a really long labour which ended in episiotomy and forceps and tearing. Not nice. I am planning a home birth this time and when i see the midwofe again in 3 weeks she said we'll discuss this more and if i want to go ahead, she will arrange for the homebirthing team to come and see me at home. There is some discrepancy over the tear i had, whether it was 2nd degree or 3rd. I have it in my head that it was third but when we discussed it this week at my midwife appointment she said it sounded like 2nd degree. It's important to know for sure as i don't think home birth is recommended with a 3rd degree tear. I don't know why though as surely just because you tear first time soesn't mean you would again. Anyway i rang the doctors this morning and have left a message for a certain gp to call me, one i saw every week after i gave birth as my stitches came undone and it was left to heal naturally so i had to go (hobble) to the doctors once a week every week for 8 weeks for the gp to check it's progress so i thought surely she would remember what i had and also have my notes.

Ginger, I'm sorry you're feeling down. hugs

I know I'd be feeling the same as you. And I imagine my DH like yours as well. Men take TTC very differently, I think. I imagine he's scared that it's his sperm and is feeling guilty, but won't say this to you.

Are you still using the OPKs this cycle? What CD are you on now?

I know it will happen for you, but I totally understand your frustration.

Swede, do you have online food shopping there? If not, yes, your DH is now in charge. :-) I couldn't walk past the fresh bread in Sainsbury's for a while as it made me want to vom! Thankfully that's passed now! Is it your scan next week?

Cake, fx for you too.

Junk, have you POAS yet?!

Morerum, how come you got relegated to the sofa? I'd have sent DH!

Mrs, enjoy your last day at work. :-)

Oh ginger I know how you are feeling. The fear that its never going to happen and then each month its a confirmation of your fears so they just grow. I find the up and down nature of it so hard too. Each month I get my hopes up convince myself im pregnant then get so disappointed again. I get scared of what I will be like if it doesn't happen and I don't want to go back to the place I was in before DS was conceived.

FWIW DS took exactly one year to conceive and if I remember rightly your not at one year yet (and I know statements like that are not helpful because we want our BFP NOW!!)

I honestly don't know what goes through some peoples heads sometimes because when you start talking to people sooo many have been through a mc or trouble conceiving, I'm constantly taken back that people think my plans for children are a conversational topic ?! SOD THE LOT OF THEM and the horses they rode in on

As for other peoples pregnancies my sister in law has just announced her second pregnancy (her first was announced just after my 2nd mc she didn't know) I was so worried about being bitter but the thing I realised that first time around was that it was her journey and I didn't want her journey I wanted my own.

Hope you feel better soon swede must have been so scary

Awh gingerbread im so sorry things aren't working out for you. Men cam be so insensitive at times and personally i think it must be harder ttc the 2nd time as your already a mummy and have maternal feelings well as broody feelings I really hope you get some answers soon.
dd has been up sick and is now snoozing in my bed so im delegated to the couch.
such fun

Hi everyone, I have been trying to put ttc to the back of my mind recently which means not going on MN unfortunately! I have just about caught up with you all I think, lots going on!
kt glad your scan went well. Bet you are relieved. 11th sept sounds like a lovely birthday
swede how horrible for you, are you sure monday is not too soon to go back to work? don't want to sound preachy, but please make sure you are more than ok before going back, you need to give yourself lots of tlc and R & R!!! Glad you and baby are ok though.
mrs can't believe how little time you have left at work! That seems like it has flown. Also great news about the midwife, hopefully this one stays as lovely as she seems. I really wouldn't worry about your DS, and you too toothpaste they all do things at their own pace. I remember worrying that DD still wasn't walking at 15 months and everyone tells you stories how they/their children crawled at 5 months, walked at 9 months.... my niece didn't start talking til quite late on, but when she did start she would come out with sentences, we always said she was waiting to talk until she actually had something she wanted to say! mrs have you moved DS into his new bed yet? Can't remember if you ever updated....
Hungry glad you got the work option you wanted, that is amazing! Will make going to work a bit more interesting, and hopefully go quicker for you too. And brilliant not having to commute so far everyday. Hope you get a good bunch to work with.
morerum also disgusted that they said that to you. I was signed off from work on sick leave 8 weeks before my mat leave began with SPD, so I would have though with only 3 that would be all the more reason to just let you finish and keep off your feet a bit. I think when you are pg you need to really look after yourself, put yourself first and sod everything else, work and all. Are you just going to try and ride it out?
Engels enjoy your weekend away, sounds like a perfect way to get back to dtd!! Although maybe not perfect with DC in the room!!
Loves when's POAS time for you?
As for me, I'm not doing so great I can't believe some of you are over half way already and I'm still waiting for my bfp. Back when we started ttc# 2 I was really scared that it just wouldn't happen, and I can't believe that I was right and my fears are actually happening.
DH has had enough of me being depressed all the time and I think he is ready to just move on and get on with life, which doesn't make it easy trying to encourage him to eat super healthy, give up alcohol and caffeine and take vitamins.

Everyone expects us to have another one soon, people just don't even consider that you can't get pregnant if you already have a child. Someone at work I haven't seen for a while came over to me and was peering at my belly as I was sat down and said 'Oh I keep expecting to see you with a bump, it's about time isn't it!'
And I know she means well but my DSis keeps making jokes about being a surrogate for me. It all just feels totally inexplicable and cruel. Sorry for the mememe debbie downer post, but I don't have anywhere else to turn!

Excellent news, Kt. :-) Picture on Facebook please!

Better, I'm really pleased. Really think it'll make the 3 months way more bearable now. I'm 5 minutes from the hospital too, should I need to go!

I can't imagine a long labour. I feel for any of you that took a while for baby to appear. DD's birth was traumatic, but at least it was done and dusted in 6.5 hours from waters breaking to being born!

Hi everyone!

morerum I cannot believe they didn't sign you off! it doesn't seem right! How are you holding up??

Hope your ds has recovered engels a weekend away sounds lovely! fingers crossed the pols bring you luck ASAP.

mrs what a stroke of luck re midwife swap!! That's brilliant, will make all the difference. And hurrah for finishing work, you can join me in the SAHM club! What was your birth like with ds?

I haven't heard of book you are talking about but I am going to try hypnobirthing this time. I had a lovely water birth last time but it was very long and I started on the gas and air at 5cm and it was another 10 hours before dd arrived so I was pretty disorientated by then. This time I'd like to only use gas and air towards the end. That depends on me having a water birth again which after yesterday's consultant appt isn't looking likely but I'm pretending it's going to until I'm definitely told otherwise!

Fantastic news re your secondment meeting hungry that should make going back so much easier!

swede that sounds awful! poor you! it's the last thing you need. Hope you feel better soon, good news that baby looks ok though. I really feel for you with the nausea, I had it last time and it's horrible, at least it's a reassuring sign though!

Brilliant news kt good for academic years too.....!!

Hey everyone! Will read back properly later on tonight, but just thought id let you know I had my scan today! So relieved for it to be all ok, due 11th sept! Exactly 12 weeks today!

How exciting you're finishing, mrs :-) Jealous!

And I said that to DH. I think I'd be miserable in my normal place, but should love this! It's hopefully worked well.

Hi ladies, how is everyone today?
Hungry - Great news about the job, it sounds like it will be something new and exciting for you and will therefore probably make the time go quicker for you. Even better if you actually enjoy it.
Swede - Sorry to hear how poorly you have been. That must have been awful for you having to stay in hospital and feel so dreadful while pregnant. I hope you feel much better soon.
Hi and welcome to Junk!
Morerum - 7 weeks is not that long to go. Good for you, i hope you stick it out like you want to.
Toothpaste - Don't worry about your DS and walking. My niece was nearly 18 months when she took her first steps, we all wondered if she would ever take a first step. They are all so different with their development and i think boys are more lazy, everyone says that! If he has already done it, he probably thinks why should he do it again. Great news that all is well with baby... And it's great news about your freind and her third birth, that should give us all hope. On that note, has anyone heard of a book by Ina May Gaskin? I think it's called, 'A guide to childbirth'. Well i have ordered it from Amazon yesterday as i have heard it is very good and it is meant to prepare you for a positive birth experience unmedicated and i really want to try go for a home birth with no pain relief (if i can).
Loves - I think you are right with what you say about your niece. My DS makes us all understand him fully so doesn't need to say the actual words.
My last day at work tomorrow. About an hour ago they all gathered around my desk and presented me with a card and a gift (in an envelope, so probably a gift voucher). I will open tonight with DH and DS.

Bloody hell, Swede. I'm glad you're on the mend now. Must've been so scary.

Nausea is good though! :-) I hope you'll make sure you're better before going back to work!

Hi Junk! When are you going to POAS?! I'm an addict with no more reason to POAS anymore. Boo! Good luck. :-)

That's really sweet, Cake. I hope DD and DC2 do display their cross stitches somewhere. Apparently my teenage nephew and niece still like theirs, which is good!

I was a late walker. About 18 months, I think. I cruised a bit before then, but not much. And I'm fine now. I can walk and roll and everything (I wasn't a roller either!).

Just had my meet and greet for my secondment. They're really nice. Think I'll enjoy working there, especially as it'll be something new every day. Just my cup of tea. :-)

Morning hope your DS is on the mend Engels.

Hungry im working from home today and whilst dusting working I saw the cross stitch that my mum made for me when I was born one of those things that you don't 'see' anymore because they have been there a while it made me think of you and also get a bit emotional at the thought that DS might put his patchwork somewhere special one day!

Also Mrs my first niece (I now have 8 nieces and nephews!) was really late to talk because she had learned baby sign language really well and so didn't need to, so I'm sure your theory about your LO just not needing to talk because you understand what he needs already is spot on .

Welcome junk i'm very new too fx that you are PG when can you test?

Hi! Can I join please???
We're not supposed to be TTC number 2 until next month but after a couple of 'naughty' sessions in the sheets between 18th and 21st Feb, I have been getting unusual cramping pains on and off and heavy boobs when the bra comes off. AF not due until March 6th and these symptoms don't show themselves until 4/5 day pre-AF. I might be, but a big part of me thinks not. Thought I'd join you all now considering the circumstances.
Already got a DH of nearly 4 years (together for nearly 8) with a DS who has just turned 2.

Poor ds Engels. Hope he gets better fast. Talking about development my ds is almost 17 months and still refusing to walk. He has done it but just refuses to most of the time unless holding on to someone. He has hit all the milestones later than majority in terms of crawling etc but I think he just wants to do it in his own time. Def don't think he isn't bright and interested though.
Had dr check up today and baby heartbeat strong and healthy.
My due date is 3 July hungry so will be going on mat leave three weeks prior. Wish I could do earlier but think we need the £!
Third friend in a row that had her second baby today and it happened within about two hours with no time for pain relief. This scares me!!

mrs that's good news and how lucky are you finishing in 2 days!

calling hope your ds is feeling better soon x
ive got 7 weeks left or 15 days and im gonna do my best to stick it out x

Hi all, just a quickie. I got to my midwife appointment to be told that my midwife has left and gone somewhere else so I've got a new midwife. She seemed really nice and helpful so fingers crossed that's that sorted. Heard baby's heartbeat and I'm measuring exact for 25 weeks. Checked my wee and blood pressure and both ok so all good. How is everyone else today? I'm so glad I'm finishing work in 2 more days.

Hi Calling - so sorry for your DS. I'm glad it wasn't anything to worry about but just a shame for a little one to go through general anaesthetic etc, he must be a brave little soldier. How is he managing with his eating now? Thanks for your reassuring words about my DS and the speech thing. They do say boys are a bit more lazy than girls. I hope he does the same as your DS and starts to come on leaps and bounds with those words getting strung together.
Hungry - I will be thinking of you next thurs x
I'm just sat in the doctors waiting to see the midwife. My appointment was 2pm but they are running over.