New year, new thread, fresh start and a brand spanking new injection of a hot new batch of posifrickenity! This is the year where our wombs will be comfy and our babies plentiful! TTC after MC.

Anyone else in the wilderness of the 2ww? I hate it. Now on DPO8. Lots of odd twinges/PMS-y feelings. Too early to call. BOOOOOORRRRRRRIIIIIING.

I get it too Sundance - it just seems so easy for everyone else. Want a baby - have sex - get pg - have baby. Done. Complain about being tired, but mostly post joyous FB pics of baby in cute outfits. This thread has been a lifeline for me too, knowing I'm not the only one finding
it hard.

Thanks triple - didn't even know they were that different. Think I need my BB thermometer, and will shove it under the tongue from now on. Only taken 2 temps, so probs reading way too much into this, but today's was much lower than yday's, so I'm hoping that means af will be on her way in 3 days - which would mean lp not too screwed up and agnus castus hopefully working!

Also thanks parsley, going to snaff some of those.

Got 'self help' homework now. Started seeing an NHS counsellor, ostensibly about a phobia, but she gently suggested I might need to work on my perfectionist tendencies too at the first session! Can only be positive.

sundance that's so tough. It's difficult isn't it, I have a friend who is also trying to get pregnant and has never had a MC, she is so keen and enthusiastic and sparky and also 4 years younger than me! I really do wish the best for her, but I also know that if she gets pregnant before me then I will be very upset.... complicated emotions.

still.... what was that word? posifrickentivity... onwards and upwards.....

Thanks for the tip Parsley. :)

sundance I completely get that. I think after a MC we all just exist in a perpetual state of conflict; not wishing the agony of MC on anyone but wishing more people had experienced it so you don't feel so alone.

At least we all have each other! And I do genuinely mean that, I think I'd have gone insane by now if not for you lot!

While I remember, Amazon are selling Pregnacare Conception (30 tablets) for £5 at the moment. I've opted for the (hopefully) tempting fate option and ordered 5 boxes! FX I'll be flogging the surplus ones on eBay very soon........

Thanks all, I knew you'd understand. To be honest, even my DH is taking it the same way. We knew they would be trying but still sort of hoped it would be us first!

Cried myself to sleep last night so my eyes and face are red raw today which will be fun going out in this frosty weather!

It's tough. I really wouldn't wish what we've all been through on anyone, but at the same time I'd feel more normal if a lot more people around me did.

TBH I've always spent so much time dashing off to hospital (once in an ambulance, from school), that most people around me know what's going on. I don't like to seem flaky or unreliable, so if I have to let people down or dash off I prefer that they know why. I certainly don't expect being pg to lead to a baby (but imagine if, one day, it did!!!)

I have to confess that I was one of those six week declarers. In the old days.

My history of pregnancy before my first mc was "get pregnant, have baby" so it seemed an even greater shock to mc the first time. And having to untell people was horrible.

Still, let's hope most of the blissfully unaware early delclarers stay that way. I wouldn't wish this on anybody...

My friend, who had 4 mcs and 2 failed ivfs before having her baby last month, is coming to see us next week with baba. I'm looking forward to seeing her, and squeezing the baby, but dreading it too. Ffs.

sundance that's so rubbish. Hope you are feeling better today.. It's so heartbreaking isn't it.

I've taken to telling my friends (in a hypothetical way) that if they get pregnant I want a text or email rather than face to face so I have time to process it before I see them.

I know it's annoying too with early announcers but in my experience, they never are the ones to miscarry. Which is also annoying! not that I want them to miscarry but that I'm jealous of how blasé they are yet still turns out ok. That's just my experience tho.

Knackered at the moment. Really busy and hard work couple of weeks. Must get booking a holiday soon. We are going to the Canada in September but need something before that!!

I agree, my team mate at work just about waved her dripping test under our noses in the rush to let everyone know, she must have been all of two weeks gone I wouldn't wish the worst on anyone but when you've been through what a lot of us have it's unthinkable.

As for how your best friend told you I think it's awful, especially as she'll know what you're going through, some prior warning should have been given so you had chance to process it. I was informed by email which was much better than feigning cheer and excitement. I'm massively happy for my friend but she knew I'd need some time to get used to the idea, I have and now I'm just happy for her deeply jealous

Oh sundance that must be really tough. I always think it's the worst with people you're closer to. Big un-mumsnet style hug.

Great to have a cycle-buddy Tanny good luck with SMEP.

Ooh I'm interested in how your acupuncture goes. I've always wanted to try it. Hope it works for you.

Oh sundance that must've been hard to get through with a smile on your face. Does your friends partner know your circumstances? A little bit insensitive if so, but the elation for them is understandable.

Still, and this is more a general comment than to do with this specific instance, I get a little bit when people announce pg's so enthusiastically so early on. I can't help but think "you don't realise what you're doing, what if....."
Awful, I know. But I can't help it!

*pill

Really struggling today...just been out for a meal with my best friend who told me that she is 7 weeks pregnant.

I could cry. I'm very happy for her obviously, she's had a tough year also, but I can't help but be envious. I'm a year older, and her partner delighted in telling us it only took them 2 weeks from coming off the pull to get pg.

Just lost for words.

Penguin we're on CD9 here too! Started SMEP proper last night, and feint line is starting to appear on OPK, which is exciting as I've not used them before oh great more sticks to obsess over...

I had my first acupuncture session on Thursday and she thinks I have deficient blood, so let's hope she can get it sufficient before my definitely-gonna-happen BFP at the end of the month.

Exercise today seems to have mostly been me fishing my phone out of the loo and trying to dry it on the radiator and not giving two year old to gypsies to fund a new phone. Why do I want another DC?? Oh, yes, because he came and snuggled up next to me and held onto my ear. Little monkey

seaside armpit and oral temperatures are different at an absolute level and as I recall you need to adjust the one under the armpit to directly compare with oral temp. Are you doing that and still getting a difference?

Also, can I ask a temping Q? This morning I took it twice under my armpit, and it was off the chart low - 35.9C I think. So I (washed the thermometer) and took it orally - 36.8. Is that normal? Which is more accurate?

2ww does suck - cd26 here. Mostly wondering whether af will arrive tomorrow as normal, which will only be 10dpo, or hold off - not expecting a bfp, no symptoms at all. Well, only one slightly worrying one - a pressure on my RHS, roughly where I imagine my ovary/tube to be. If I do get a bfp I'll be convinced it's ectopic #2, almost hoping it's not this month.

Zumba sounds fun! I look like a drunk daddy-long-legs when I dance, but would like to give it a go. Had such a productive day including hacking the Xmas tree up for the fire and a chocolate-focused bakeathon. Super domesticated! Keeping busy is the best distraction tactic.

I feel for you Parsley. 2 ww sucks! Well done for getting out and getting sweaty at zumba as opposed to the usual staying in and getting sweaty I am so uncoordinated too but I love zumba. It might not feel like it but it gets so much easier when you've been a few times and you get to know the moves even if your instructor likes to mix it up.

Enjoy your curry tonight. Your friend sounds lovely. I think it's so important to have someone other than H to talk to about all this. Hopefully she's just the advanced party checking out the pregnancy terrain before you get your own BFP soon!

*welly, not we'll. stupid ipad

Ergh, icy we'll foot bath does not sound good peng

CD22 here, so half way through 2ww and really, really trying not to symptom check, but I am having weird twangy sensations somewhere in the womb-y area. MUST NOT OVER ANALYSE.

Went to Zumba for the first time ever today, and have realised just how hopelessly uncoordinated I am! Even the old dears were keeping up better than me! Ah well, it was a lot of sweaty fun, so I think I shall persevere!
Out for a calorific curry tonight with my BF who is being induced in 10 days (gestational diabetes). Funny, hers is the only bump I like to be around, but then she's been an absolute rock throughout my unexplained infertility and then MMC so I guess that makes sense.

All aboard the ttc express. CD9 over here and we're just limbering up for our shagathon. Aiming for roughly every other day for the next week.

How's everyone doing this fine Saturday? Our village is on the Thames so we went to have a look at the flooding today. Thankfully it doesn't look like any houses have been flooded along our section but the footpath is covered with water so deep that I got a rather icy foot bath with water spilling over the top of my wellies! Hope you're all keeping safe and dry.

Ah, you are all so nice. Thankyou for the congrats

I don't think dh will be very pleased when I tell him. He will say we can't afford it and he won't be very interested, in case I miscarry again. I know if we get past 12 weeks he will let himself be happy. In any event it's extremely rare to see him in such a bad mood, I will keep my distance till tomorrow.

Unfortunately, I have no secret. Like nordicmum I get pregnant very easily, I'm just not great at staying pregnant. Please keep your fx for me.

handsfull I hope your liberated approach has worked

That's fantastic beets! I really hope this one sticks

Congratulations beets! Absolutely blimmin' fantastic news.