2014 will bring me a BFP!

Right...I'm CD31 with a BFN, but my copy of the "Taking Charge of your Fertility" book that Unicorns recommended has finally arrived. I'm ready to go all out with charts, OPKs, pre-seed, absolutely anything & everything now until D-Day in April (IVF referral). Let the battle commence!

I love your optimism Dulcetmoan. The way I see it is. I can be as positive as I want but the sperm is either going to meet the egg of it's not. my positive or negative mental attitude will do nothing to change that. I'm having a great time practicing though. xxx

Wise words fausher, there are always people a lot worse off than we are x

Hi Notta, I went at 9 months and my GP didn't seem to mind. He wanted to test DP first though, and I don't think he is quite ready for that yet. I told him what the doc said and am just letting it sink in for a bit. Will have another talk in a month or two. I am not really ready to find out if there is a problem with him, I just know he would be devastated and it would be so much easier if there was a problem with me because at least then it would be in my control IYSWIM.

We haven't gone all out on the dtd either so I suppose its not really surprising. We did in the early months but couldn't sustain it!!

Good luck.

I am thinking about trying yoga, any thoughts ladies?

Finally, spotting is over... HSG report was good but the after effects freaked me out. Hoping for the best this cycle... Every month there is a new hope, motivation and energy Though, it gets tough at times, but key is to stay kool, be happy and enjoy life with what you have. Cheers!

NottaLotta - definitely go... there is no harm in going and I found it quite therapeutic just to chat to a doctor at that stage. I went a month before I had my bfp (that ended in MC) so I used to wonder if just talking to the doctor helped! And I do think its good to start a relationship with your doctor on this stuff. I have got to know my doctor quite well - she's given me tissues before when I've sobbed in front of her! But I know I'm lucky to have such a nice GP. Anyway do go, I think it might just help you to know things are moving in some way. But yes, as minion said, hang in there - I'm sure you'll get your bfp soon.

Hi Notta, most GPs will be happy to see you after 6 months as you're over 35, so there's no downside to having a chat. But if you're not really trying at the moment then it's not all that strange that you haven't conceived yet & there's nothing to suggest that there's a problem at the moment. Most couples conceive naturally within 12-24 months which feels like a really long time but it does provide some reassurance that there's nothing abnormal with your current situation.

SA is an early test, but it's not always done first. I had bloods & a HSG before my husband was booked in for his SA (seems a strange way round to me) so you will need to get him onside & to be prepared for some quite intrusive tests yourself.

Have a chat to him & your doctor & see where you get to.

Best of luck!

Morning, it seems many of you are further on in your journeys than i am. What do you all think about me going to gp at this stage? I feel a bit of a fraud as although i am 36 and on my 8th cycle, it hasn't exactly been scientific and we certainly haven't gone all out with daily dtd.

We are not in the best position to be trying to be honest but i think we need to crack on. Maybe if things were more 'ideal' we would be more inclined to go all out for a few months.

I do believe the first port of call would be a sperm test for DH? Is this correct? Not sure he'd be up for it at this stage. I guess we need a chat.

skyadelic do you mind me asking your age? That would have quite an impact on my decision if i were you. I wish i had stopped BC (depo) sooner as it too 7 months for AF to return.

DH is still concerned about the money side of things and wants to wait to remove my birth control rod until this one particular bill is sorted (which I totally get but ARGH!) but HOPEFULLY this should be sorted in the next 2 weeks (possibly up to 4... or more depending what happens between now and then of course :S).

I'm going to ask him to compromise and I'll get it out to start normalising and we'll use back-up BC (i.e. condoms) until he's feeling less freaked out.

Hoping good things for all of you though! My sis is 20+ weeks (don't remember the exact number). I don't know anything else except it's a boy.

That's rubbish fausher Presumably if it's spotting it's still in the normal camp & something that you have to stick out?

3rd day of Fluroscopy and still spotting ... me no likey!

Thanks flofly It was fine actually...the staff were really sweet & I'm getting used to being in undignified positions Plus the waiting room was mostly full of old people who needed ultrasounds for other reasons.

Thanks Minion. That's really helpful. I will keep everything crossed that you get some good news before April. How was the ultrasound? Hope the waiting room was bearable.

Hey flofly, even though your problem was MC, it seems logical that IVF (at some point) would be an option as you're likely to get pregnant again (if you don't beforehand) & they'll monitor you & perhaps (if they exist) give you drugs to help the baby stay put.

We've had all of our tests with the specialist now (so SA, bloods, HSG, ultrasound, etc.) & we have unexplained infertility (no BFP ever). This took about 5 months all in all from my GP referral. NHS guidelines in our area say you have to have been trying for 2 years before they can refer for IVF (at my age of 33) so they made our April appointment for us to agree if we do go down that route (which I think we probably do). The consultant explained that there aren't waiting lists for IVF anymore, as such...at that 2 year appointment, she'll make the referral & then it's just about finding an appointment that suits to get started.

As you said, there's still time though for us to conceive naturally. Fingers crossed ??

Thanks oneinaminion - we did get preggers naturally a year ago but MC. Doctor just didn't seem v optimistic unless we have IVF.

Sitting in a room with pregnant people will be really hard but I guess you can only focus on the end goal. I know what you mean about hoping to conceive naturally - I think that is where I have been until now and now suddenly reality of IVF is looming. Like you, I want to do whatever it takes so I guess it's just adjustment time. So when do you think you might have it? April? (you may get preggers before then!) We have just been referred from GP. How long do you think it will take to get our first appointment at specialists?

I'm having a dry Jan Dildoos so I'm feeling your pain! I'd love a glass of wine!! At least the chromosome test is done & might give you some answers.

HSGs are yuck fausher

Sorry to hear that flofly...low doesn't mean impossible though.

I'm on my way for an ultrasound...it's the only thing they could think of left to check before our appointment in April (where they'll refer us for IVF). I'm not looking forward to sitting in a room with mostly pregnant people waiting for scans, but these things have to be done I suppose.

AF hasn't arrived yet, but I've got period pains & it's due & I got a BFN yesterday so it looks like it's time to go back round the loop again. I'd be ecstatic with a baby from any means, but I had secretly hoped that we'd manage it naturally & I can't say I'm looking forward to the prospect of IVF. I suppose we could be lucky in the new few cycles though.

Hello - so we had the second test results back and my husband definitely suffers from low motility and morphology isn't great.

Doctor has referred us and I think we are looking at IVF. Can't really believe it.

On the Agnus Castus thing - I have read that too - my acupuncturist told me to stay off it as I as regular.

Jennifer Yes its the same.... HSG
Well, yes your tubes will be observed if they are fine and not blocked. Also, this test helps to see the size of uterus and the position of cervix. These are some important observations of fluoroscopy.
dildoos well, the procedure was bit painful and uncomfortable. I am taking some pain killers too as prescribed by the doctor.
The panty liner is yet not clear... so hoping the bleeding stops soon.

Oh dear dildoos that all sounds a bit unhelpful. At least he has done the chromosome tests (don't know much about this but sounds like worth checking out). I think NK cell therapy is considered a bit 'experimental' but I have certainly heard of it working. I can see his point if you can conceive there is not much point in IVF but you still need an answer about the miscarriages I think. Have you thought about going private? They would do the NK cell compatibility tests but I guess it would be expensive. At least they could look into the question a bit more thoroughly. You wouldn't need to have IVF just have the tests done at a private fertility clinic. And no aaaarggghhh!!

Afternoon all,

Went to see gynaecologist , feeling
He has done a chromosome test on me and partner.
He feels that these will be fine! He doesn't believe in nk cells which has thoroughly blown mine and witch doctors theory on easy fix, he sees Ivf pointless as may still miscarry and in turn pay for the experience, he is going to do another pelvic scan, he disagrees to the aspirin taking which last guy suggested, so to some it all up he said it's just a case of bad luck and crack on unless I call you with abnormal test/scan results!

However he said don't smoke ( which I don't, ) don't drink alcohol ( not alcoholic but enjoy wine ) and frolic acid ( which of course I take!!) so I am guessing no wine which Is my one enjoyment at weekend

Joy of joys!

Enough of me how's you guys?

Fausher the fluoroscopy how you feeling? X

Dildoos how did it go with the gynaecologist?
Sweep sorry to hear that. Hopefully the monitor will help. It's all about the long term goal, though, still plenty of 2014 left and plenty of opportunities :)
Good news about the amazon tests, Jesse, it's good to know they are all as reliable as each other!

Why does time go this slowly when you're close to AF/POAS? I'm working 4pm-midnight the next few days so I can see my whole week is going to be spent sitting around thinking about it!!

Ooh thanks for the advice ladies, will hold off on the agnus for now, it only cost me a pound so no big deal. Got DP some very expensive fertility vitamins at the same time!! It wouldn't hurt him to take them anyway, his diet is awful (except the lovely nutritious meals I cook in the evenings of course).

I have been temping but might try OPK as well, my temps are all over the place these days, apparently stress can do that. I had much clearer ovulation signs just after I came off the pill but not any more.

For anyone who is interested. I have been using both clear blue Ovulation tests and cheap amazon ones at the same time over the last 2months. I find them both very easy to use and always test with the second pee of the day. They have both provided me with exactly the same result ie when there are 2 clear lines on the amazon one, I get a smiley face on the monitor. If I continue to use ovulation tests I will simply use the amazon ones. Just a thought.

No luck this month c after 14 cycles I have caved an bought one of those clear blue digital monitor things so fingers crossed that is going to improve our chances.

Agreed Jennifer!! Cd 23 here gynaecologist today