The Elderberry Pavlovas head into 2014 which will be full of ivf, berry babies and BFPs!!!  (thread 17)

Apologies for any spelling errors or nonsense. I've had a few lots of wines.

Happy New Year ladies. Who will be the first bfp of the year? bunny bunny bunny

Really hope 2014 is good for your friend kitty. Would he nice for her to join us here for support.

Very sorry about your uncle feather and I hope you have another bfp to celebrate soon. Any news from your sil? 8 weeks is early hey.

Hope Mr Barking will be picking up the phone to the clinic first thing Thursday morning!

Thanks lady and tiger. I'm concerned about poor morphology despite bfp as been reading about poor sperm quality/morphology in relation to recurrent miscarriage and the evidence seems to be there. Eek.u

Glad to see the back of 2013!!! So sorry about your friend, kitty, what crappy news. She should get herself on mn; there's plenty on here who can relate to what she is going through, and it's not like some if us are strangers!

Sorry about your friend kitty. I'd second yorkie's suggestion about the mc boards, they really helped me. I know she wasn't keen on mn at all though so don't know if she'd want to start now.

I've been AWOL with no mobile reception or internet in Scotland. After two days of camping and walking in torrential rain we decamped to the house of friends who live up here and we're seeing in new year with a bottle of wine in front of the tv in the warm and dry instead!

2013 for me has had massive highs (health improvements, getting engaged and getting pg) but it's difficult to avoid feeling like the whole year has been s^ because of the miscarriage and the total absence of a cycle or ovulation in the 4 months since. I really need to focus on the positives going into 2014. I'm getting married! And I will by some miracle get pg. Fx for acupuncture!

As an aside, I said to DP there was no point taking more clomid until I properly got my cycles back, and hopefully the accupuncture will help. He asked why I didn't call the gp to see what they could do. I explained there was no point as last time they just referred me back to the FC. So he asked why I didn't get another FC appointment and I explained that I'd called them but I didn't get further than leaving a message with the consultant's secretary who called back to tell me to take a pg test then carry on with the clomid. He said I shouldn't leave it, I should demand more. I pointed out that there were two of us involved in this and he could call himself, especially as he was less likely to start crying down the phone. He said he would. So. Onwards and upwards into 2014!!

kitty I am so so sorry to hear this about your friend. The poor thing. As the others have said I really hope she can find a way to qualify for ivf or at least gets a bfp very soon like she did this time. What a shit new year it must be for her.

As for everyone else, wishing you all a really happy new year, and so many good things for 2014. It feels like great things are imminent - let's empty the thread in the next few months!

Funky page 18 of this has semen analysis:
www.nice.org.uk/nicemedia/live/14078/62769/62769.pdf

hey funky coincidentally I was just looking over my DPs results from our local womens hospital and the results sheet gives the following reference ranges:

Concentration: anything above 20m is within normal range

Motility: anything above 50% is considered normal but apparently you also need to know progressive motility (the ones that move forward) which should also be above 50%

Morphology: On our results it says 'normal forms' which I think translates to morphology and they give anything above 5% as being within normal range.

Hope that helps.

snow I am at a similar stage to you, having been ttc for a year. My GP did the preliminary tests last month (so far all ok) and we have our first NHS FC appointment in January.

feather I am also cracking out the fizz! I agree with having a bit of a blow out when it all gets too much, even if just to avoid the raised eyebrows (or worse, the direct questioning!) if I am spotted without a drink. Seems none of my mates avoided drinking whilst ttc, so when I quite drinking earlier in the year, I got asked if I was pg about 100 times.

Happy New Year to all berries, here's to a wonderful 2014!

How very sad for your friend kitty :( hope she's as ok as can be. She must be devastated, understandably.

funky sorry, not sure about SA figures. I'd imagine that it must be fine because you've had a bfp though.

snow sorry you've hot the one year, but great that investigations are underway. Better to be armed with as much info as possible.

It's been a strange festive season for me: uncle had a heart attack and is now in a coma, my three month mark should have been Christmas Day, and my mum called me this morning to say that my 7month pregnant SiL's waters have broken and looks like she's going to have the baby 8 weeks early (as in, any day now). Sheesh. I'll be glad to see the back of 2013, but agree with Aquarius in that I've learned a lot about myself in the past year.

Here's to a bountiful, happy, healthy 2014, bursting with with Berrie BFP's. Thank you all for being such an incredible support. I'm off to neck some cava now. *hic! X

Kitty that is so sad.
Did she conceive naturally? Hopefully she can get back on the IVF train. There is plenty of room here.

So sorry to hear that Kitty and I hope she does still qualify for NHS IVF, or that she can repeat the treatment that got her pregnant this time.

Does anybody know about sperm analysis norms?
We rang clinic today for results as not bothered before as had bfp day after sample was handed in. They said 22 million sperm in sample. 62% motility and 3% morphology. They said they like 4% but from my internet reading I am getting a variety of ranges. This seems very low

So sad for your friend kitty - cant think how she must be feeling. hope she has plenty of support around her.

snow sorry you've reached you're first ttc anniversary & hope your gp takes things forward for you. We're 'au naturel' as well, for the time being (apart from a little bit of surgical interference). I've never been to a chiropractor so can't help on that. Think I'll be trying acupuncture in 2014 if the surgery hasn't helped.

bunny can understand your mixed feelings - do hope you are feeling positive though- keeping everything crossed for you.

Going back to your earlier question bunny, I think I'm going to say a fond farewell to 2013 from a personal perspective as it's taught me a lot, and should make 2014 a bit easier to cope with from a ttc point of view- but as part of the Berry collective i agree, glad to put 2013 behind us and move on to bigger, better and brighter 2014. May it bring us all good things.

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Oh kitty, that's so so sad. You're poor friend. She must be beside herself. I just don't know what to say. Poor poor girl.

Heartbreaking. Sending virtual hugs to her and you kitty x

Oh kitty I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. So heartbreaking. Suggest the mc threads to her as I found them very useful to chat to others going through the same thing. Also, we are always here to chat if she wants. Big hugs to her x

That's so sad Kitty and it must be hard for you to know what to do to comfort her. How has she lost her funding though? Surely if she hasn't had a live birth then she would still qualify?

Merk It was 9 weeks. No baby, just the yolk sac.

Kitty that's awful. Was that 12 weeks? No baby or no heartbeat. Thinking of her

For those of you who met my friend at the meet up, she had her scan today but there was no baby on the screen . I'm so sad for her. She's been ttc for 3 years plus 2 years not ttc but unprotected. Shes naturally devastated. Wish I could do something . This also means she's list her ivf funding that she was due to start early 2014

Hi berries, hope you're all doing ok, (I don't post too often as we've been going it au naturel) fingers crossed for IVF starters in 2014 and thoughts best wishes to those having a tough time and all those undergoing tests etc.
Our first TTC anniversary has come and gone and still no BFP so we've been to see the GP who has booked a blood test for me next week to check progesterone levels and see where we go from there. (DH tested previously due to other health issues and he is all good).
I am interested to know if anyone has tried using a chiropractor on their TTC journey? I have had to use one recently for a back injury and one happy side effect of the treatment was that my period pain was virtually non-existant on my last cycle. I've been looking into it and there are limited and (slightly biased!) studies into infertility and chiropractic treatment and effects, any thoughts?.....

I have added myself to the rather impressive list :) best wishes for 2014 and BFP's all round x

Lady - 34, TTC since Jan 2012, unexplained, chemical after IVF#1, awaiting IVF#2
Bunny - 33, TTC since June 2012, DH low count, me PCO, ICSI IVF jabs start today NYE!!!
Feather - 34, ttc since Nov 2011, six rounds of clomid, bfp in November which ended in Ectopic. Deciding on next steps in early 2014
Aquarius - 32, ttc 20mths, diagnosed with endo, awaiting follow up FC apptmt
Birdy - 30 - TTC around 26 cycles, DH low count, 1% morph, starting ICSI early 2014
Happylass - 35, 13 months of TTC but currently on a break due to wedding purposes. Starting back after one more cycle - sod the dress! Currently awaiting HSG.
Gillster - 39, TTC since Feb 2012. Just had fibroid removed but otherwise unexplained infertility. Starting short protocol IVF in Feb.
barkingtreefrog - 34, ttc since January 2012, clomid bfp ended in mc in Sept, cycles not returned since.
Kuma - 39, TTC 13 cycles, high FSH, low AMH, low antral count so generally a bit stuffed. Next NHS FC apptmt in March, likely to go private before then.
Boodle - 30 - now on my 31st cycle if TTC. Unexplained infertility with slightly low amh. Clomid failed. Now in the IVF process, long protocol, hoping to start early spring.
Yorkiebilb, 35, ttc since Sep 2012. Mmc Dec 2012. High fsh, good amh. Possible immune issues. Fx starting egg sharing ivf mid Jan. Long protocol.
Funkymonk, 31 (32 almost here). TTC since Nov 2012. MC July 2013 (5+2). MMC Dec 2013 (identified at 8+2). 2 lots of medical management but bean still in there refusing to leave. In limbo until 8th Jan when will prob be ercp. A miserable sniveller.
tigerdog, 33, ttc 12 cycles. Initial FC appointment in January. Berry newbie but glad to be here whilst aiming for a bfp.
SidneyBristow, 38, TTC 18 cycles. Unexplained. Private IVF cycle to start no later than mid-Feb; bricking it.
Pipbin - 38, TTC 3 years I think. Blocked tubes. Round two of IVF.
Snowlily -33 TTC Dec 2012, so far au naturel, with GL & acupuncture. First blood test next week.

im good thanks bunny 18+3 and all fine so far. 20 week scan in a few weeks.

Lots of good wishes for the New Yr for you and all the berries.

Happy New Year Berries