The Elderberry Pavlovas head into 2014 which will be full of ivf, berry babies and BFPs!!!  (thread 17)

ambler just re-read my post..erm no such thing as a teams signal scan...meant trans-vaginal scan!!!

BlueBirdy I'm about 3 weeks into round two.
It works something like this: Call the clinic on day 1. They will then get a schedule and your drugs out to you.
On day 21 you start down regging, which means you stop everything. The last two times I have had a regular bleed on day 28 which is when I normally would do.
Then another couple of weeks of injections (but I think it was less last time as this time had the xmas break to take into account) and you have your baseline scan. If the consultant is happy with everything they see then you start stimulating. This is when you start to stimulate the ovaries to produce stacks of eggs.
After about 2 weeks of that you will need to go back to the clinic every other day so they can scan and monitor the growth of the cysts. This happens for about a week. They will also test your blood. They will then tell you when egg collection will take place. Before that can happen you have to do a trigger injection 38 hours before.
This is very much a moveable feast. Last time I was expecting to inject on the Sunday but they called me on the Saturday saying that I needed to have a different trigger and I had to go to collect it. I was about to leave the house when they called back to say don't bother, do the original one but on the Monday instead.
So 38 hours after the trigger injection you have egg collection. This happens under a local anaesthetic and with gas and air. It was uncomfortable but not too bad. Like having an operation it's nil by mouth from the midnight before. While you are having egg collection DP will be shown to a room to do his bit.
You will be told how many eggs they have taken and how many are up to the job before you go home. They will also tell you about the sperm and if it's up to it too.
The next day the clinic will call and tell you how many have fertilised etc. They will call you every day.
5 days later they will transfer the embryo or two that they think are best. Any left that are to it will be frozen.

Of course this is only my experience, your clinic may well be different.

Hope that helps. Feel free to ask if you have any questions.

Hi everyone! Thanks for making me feel welcome (it's still Christmas until I go back to work!)

Was feeling a bit better this afternoon having dragged my arse to the gym. But then came home to ANOTHER birth announcement on Facebook. Sigh.

Boodle we do sound quite similar - my two pre-clomid progesterone levels were "only just" like you. But my luteal phase is usually 10/11 days. I will try reading the previous threads rather than bombarding you with questions! FX for IVF

Birdy I've been taking Pregnacare on and off for 19 months but now you've said it improved your luteal phase I'm going to make a concerted effort to take it every day. I didn't have luteal spotting for the first few months of ttc and I wonder if it's because that was back in the days when I was naive enthusiastic...?

you're in the right place here! these lovely ladies will look after you! can I ask what your prog levels were? Also have you had a teams signal scan?

Acrylic will work fine on glass. I haven't used the proper pens but I have a feeling sharpie works and is permanent... Think I've seen it done somewhere on Pinterest online

birdy Pinterest is a dangerous place! Sucks hours out of your life!
I want to paint wine bottles and use them as table numbers (one of the ideas found on pinterest). Do you know whether standard acrylic paint would do the job?

Has anyone done any glass painting? I'm also looking at pens that write on glass (as in drinking glasses, and dishwasher proof writing without having to oven seal). I've seen some on the hobbycraft website but I've never used them before. Any tips welcome!

Hi Amber, make yourself at home and rant away when you feel like it!

Lady - 34, TTC since Jan 2012, unexplained, chemical after IVF#1, awaiting IVF#2
Bunny - 33, TTC since June 2012, DH low count, me PCO, ICSI IVF jabs start today NYE!!!
Feather - 34, ttc since Nov 2011, six rounds of clomid, bfp in November which ended in Ectopic. Deciding on next steps in early 2014
Aquarius - 32, ttc 20mths, diagnosed with endo, awaiting follow up FC apptmt
Birdy - 30 - TTC around 26 cycles, DH low count, 1% morph, starting ICSI early 2014
Happylass - 35, 13 months of TTC but currently on a break due to wedding purposes. Starting back after one more cycle - sod the dress! Currently awaiting HSG.
Gillster - 39, TTC since Feb 2012. Just had fibroid removed but otherwise unexplained infertility. Starting short protocol IVF in Feb.
barkingtreefrog - 34, ttc since January 2012, clomid bfp ended in mc in Sept, cycles not returned since.
Kuma - 39, TTC 13 cycles, high FSH, low AMH, low antral count so generally a bit stuffed. Next NHS FC apptmt in March, likely to go private before then.
Boodle - 30 - now on my 31st cycle if TTC. Unexplained infertility with slightly low amh. Clomid failed. Now in the IVF process, long protocol, hoping to start early spring.
Yorkiebilb, 35, ttc since Sep 2012. Mmc Dec 2012. High fsh, good amh. Possible immune issues. Fx starting egg sharing ivf mid Jan. Long protocol.
Funkymonk, 31 (32 almost here). TTC since Nov 2012. MC July 2013 (5+2). MMC Dec 2013 (identified at 8+2). 2 lots of medical management but bean still in there refusing to leave. In limbo until 8th Jan when will prob be ercp. A miserable sniveller.
tigerdog, 33, ttc 12 cycles. Initial FC appointment in January. Berry newbie but glad to be here whilst aiming for a bfp.
SidneyBristow, 38, TTC 18 cycles. Unexplained. Private IVF cycle to start no later than mid-Feb; bricking it.
Pipbin - 38, TTC 3 years I think. Blocked tubes. Round two of IVF.
Snowlily -33 TTC Dec 2012, so far au naturel, with GL & acupuncture. First blood test next week.

Ambler - 31, ttc since June 2012, 'borderline' post ovulation progesterone, 3 unsuccessful clomid cycles, next NHS fertility appointment in Feb

Thanks Bunny, hopefully I won't have to wait too long for my planning appt, may just have time then. Hope the jabbing continues to go well!

Thanks Pip - I'm trying to work out the procedure, do you start with 'switching off' drugs on CD21 and then the different 'stimulating' jabs on CD1/2? and then egg collection around CD14? I didn't think about going through all these details with our Dr as I didn't realise the planning appt would be 8 weeks from then. Anyway, 8 weeks from then lands on CD21 and then I'll have one more cycle before we are off, so it will be pretty close if we can fit it in. When are you starting round 2? Good luck for your scan tomorrow!

Barking I love DIY/crafty type things - have you looked around pinterest for any wedding ideas?

Hi Ambler, welcome - glad you found us Are you taking anything like pregnacare? I was worried about my luteal phase as was spotting through half of it, but that's stopped since I've started on those tablets - maybe it could help you?

With all the Berries trying IVF and acupuncture, the pouffe is starting to look like a giant pin cushion!

Hi Ambler,

Just read your post in infertility - you sound quite similar to me. I'm pretty sure I ovulate based on temps, opks and cm, but progesterone levels weren't great (2 confirming ov but only just) and I have a short luteal phase (9 days). Got stuck on clomid for 6 months with a half way review. Clomid fixed my luteal phase but no joy after 3 months so I refused to take anymore. Now in the IVF process.

Anyway, welcome to the berries; good luck with getting a HSG sorted.

Hi Ambler welcome to the club that no one wants to join.

Sorry posted too soon. Bloody iPhone!

*completely the right place that was meant to say

Welcome Amber. Make yourself at home. Sorry to hear that you're struggling to conceive but you're in com

Hello ladies

NotWithoutMyMerkin pointed me in your direction.

I've clearly got some catching up to do as I haven't read the previous 16 threads! But I hope you don't mind me jumping in?

In case you're interested, this is me:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/infertility/1954169-Infertility-meltdown

I'm generally quite minimal with my posting, but I wanted to let you know I'm here, lurking! I don't know anyone in RL experiencing infertility, so I've found it helpful to read people's stories.

Ambler - 31, ttc since June 2012, 'borderline' post ovulation progesterone, 3 unsuccessful clomid cycles, next NHS fertility appointment in Feb

I hope there'll be BFPs all round in 2014!

Yes, happy, next month! Hadn't thought about it like that but now we're in January I suppose it is!!!
funky nothing critical to do as we've kept it quite basic. No cars, flowers, photographer etc. However, since actually having some time off work and space to think I've been coming up with lots of little ideas for crafty type stuff I want to do! Currently watching Oblivion with DP which is shit rubbish so I'm actually online looking for wedding shoes...

From what I understand there has never been a 'normal' sperm study.
The guidelines as to what counts as 'normal' are so wide because the results come from tests taken from chaps before they have the snip.

Well done Bunny on a successful first jabbing! Brave girlie!

Didn't realise barkings wedding was so soon. Are you all sorted barking? What's the date again?

Thanks for swimmers advice all. Sperm count was 22 million. So I believe that's the lower side of normal. It's all so confusing!

Is everyone having a relaxing New Years Day?

BlueBirdy I'm on round two of IVF so feel free to ask questions.

Happy New Year Berries. Hope it's a very fertile and prosperous one for us all!!
Still in Dublin after a fab few days away. Heading back later this eve but got to go straight to Sheffield as DP is working there for a few days. Coming home via Gloucester where we have a wedding. Be glad to see my own bed on the weekend after all this hotel hopping!
Have read back as far as I can on my phone but a huge apology if I miss anyone out!
So sorry to hear about your friend Kitty. Must be truly devastating anyway but especially so after such a long time TTC.
Funky my DPs morphology was also 3% and the consultant said they like it to be 4%. Said it wasn't really anything to worry about as all other aspects of the test were well above what they should be. Plus the test is over a year old and this was only mentioned for the first time about 2 weeks ago. Neither my GP or the nurse we initially saw at the FC picked up on it. DP is re doing test next week and consultant said result may be different then. Fx! Still imposing an alcohol ban and getting him on the vits ready for when we start back though!
Yes Bunny I'm getting married this year wooohooo! Not til August though. I believe Barking is next month??
Hope everyone else is well and will have a proper catch up on happenings when I get back.

funky in addition to ladys comment re well man vits, I also made Dh go alcohol free for the 2 months prior to our iui. Obviously no idea if it helped as they dont test for morph when you have iui (they check everythibg else). He's making up for it for now though mind.

gill apparently her health authority say if you've been pregnant in last 3 years (live birth or not) you don't qualify

yorkie I've been trying to get her to join this thread for I don't know how long so I doubt she'll join another

lady pip she conceived on her first month of progesterone pessaries (she has cycles of about 21 days so womb doesn't prepare itself) so she has very chance of it working again but she doesn't see it like that

funky my dh's morph was 3%. FC told us not to worry as the count was good. Not sure what your dh's count is?

barking good idea at getting dp to call. Wish I'd thought of that rather than crying down the phone to them! Oh and yey to getting married this year (and undoubtedly getting diffed)

feather your sil just reminded me of my friend who went into labour at 26 weeks (waters broke at 20 weeks). Baby defied all odds and is a happy healthy 5 year old!

Thanks everyone for advice re my friend. It's really helpful

Happy New Year Berries

Bunny how is the injecting going? Is it difficult? Any side effects? Did you start other drugs on your previous cd21? Sorry all the questions! Any other berries know anything about IVF time scales? We've got our planning appt in around 7 weeks now, and trying to work out dates as DH and I will be abroad for 5 weeks over May, so starting to think we won't fit in our ICSI cycle before we go. Was hoping to start in Jan and have good news to tell my family in May, but may have to wait until June now! Don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing really.

Sid have you heard back from the consultant? I would worry about wasting anyone's time (maybe just the wasting of money) as you may regret not seeing her if things start to go a bit haywire. It's her job to help you, so I'd defo see her if I was you.

Snow I'm afraid I have no idea about chiropractors helping with fertility, but I think any positive effect on your body will have a positive effect on your fertility!

Kitty sorry about your friend I'm sure it's dreadful for her, but it must be hard for you too.

Funky my DH had only 9 mil count and 1% morph, which has meant we are having IVF with ICSI. I think anything between 5 -15 % morph is normal on the Kruger scale, and these things can vary so hopefully it won't be too mush of a problem for you guys. Lady that's good news re the vitamins - mine's been on wellman so hopefully they will improve things for us too. Since being on the pregnacare I've stopped spotting before AF (used to spot for up to a week before it was due!) and our fert Dr raved about them.

Feather hope things go well for you SIL, it must be pretty scary for her.

Barking in the warm and dry sounds like a good place to welcome in the new year!

Funky have you got him on wellman multivits or similar? I credit this with improving my DH's low sperm count and morphology, it's now normal.