If TTC # 2 has turned you into a nut job this thread is for you! (Part 4)

Happy Christmas ladies to you and your families. Lets enjoy it with DC1 and 2014 will be our year for #2. Much love xx

cake it's so frustrating isn't it. I'd have a few drinks and naughty things to eat as even if you are pregnant, nothing passes to baby til over 4 wks anyway. So I would relax over Christmas and try and enjoy!!

Think I'm going to have a funny cycle this one as well... Boobs feel weird and v bloated. Think hormones are going a bit mental post mc.

Great news fedup that you've found someone who is being helpful, glad things are feeling brighter and fingers crossed for you.

Day 30 here and still no sign of AF (this is a long cycle for me) but got BFN this morning. Sigh.

So I went back to EPU to see the doctor. She couldn't have been more nice really. And empathetic. She got me and my situation and didnt fob me off with stats and medical jargon. Phewf. She's said if I get pregnant again she will scan me at 6 weeks to find it and check if viable. But if I don't get pregnant - she said not to stay stressing for another 10 months but to come back and she will start the testing process. I just feel so much better as more supported than by that stupid GP who said she wouldn't help me for 2 years. What a difference.

I think I'm ovulating too. I've got some ewcm. Bit scared of it all now but also want a baby so got to be done... Eeek.

Met one of my NCT friends today. Patronising moment - "oh it's just so much harder with two". Yeah I know. And I know it will be tough. But I'm sure no tougher than ttc hell. Well at least a different kind of tough.

blood tests, I meant.

oh no, see you soon hopefully sebs with news of your bfp. And do remember that in terms of post bfing you are in early days. If it helps, obviously. If it doesn't, please ignore.

if you are worried about peri menopause bloods may help reassure you? they did for me. and if there is any problem it might help them to remedy it.
you've been a good support sebs xx

All the best sebs and hope to see you back here soon x

Good plan sebs. Sorry to see you go for a while but we will be here when you fancy saying hello! And PM me any time!
Much love xx

Ps. Am planning to change my career but in early stages of planning at the mo so bit too nervous to reveal all. But I will be self employed!!

No worries cakebaker. And I hope 2014 is better for all of us!!

sebs you are exactly how I was about 4 months ago. It is definately the right thing to do, ie focus on something other than having another baby. Life before (second) baby should not be miserable. I spent too much of 2013 and my little boys second year of life being miserable and moping. Which in turn made me more miserable as I was upset I wasn't enjoying the life I was having with ds and was preoccupied with ttc #2.
Yeah. I'm a management consultant. Really hard job to have with children as its v stressful, fast paced and involved a lot of travel. So I don't recommend it!!

Thanks fedup. And I'm so very sorry about your mc, just shows I should read threads more closely. Wishing you all the very best for better news in 2014 and meanwhile hope you enjoy Christmas getting hammered

Hey ladies. Sorry sebs, stupid witch. I don't blame you either for sacking off Christmas. Hopefully you like cheese and / or pâté so can eat lots of them instead of the booze mission that I'm on! Although my two day hangover makes me feel I don't want to be a drinker any more!! ;) although still laughing about Fridays events.

I'm so with you all on DTD fatigue and having to dtd with a husband that isn't always up for it. It's so not true that men always want sex. We struggle with nights too. But as the months ticked by, DH took it more seriously. We went for every other day tho during fertile period. Every day was far too tiring when at work / have a toddler.

I would just carry on as norm cake and test if af doesn't show. Bit if you want to know then test on Christmas Eve!

Welcome lucy. I'm a proper veteran on this thread! I can get very nutty, hence why I've tried to calm down on the obsessiveness of temping and opks etc. got pregnant last month after ttc for 10 months since mc in feb but unfortunately miscarried again. Currently, just trying to enjoy Christmas (if poss) and get back on ttc next year.

Ah Sebs, so sorry the bitch has arrived and I don't blame you for not being arsed with Christmas with everything you have going on. I would recommend several but as you don't drink I'm passing you a here's to a brighter new year for you.

Punky, very sorry about the stresses of DTD, it definitely takes its toll all this trying at the 'right' times! Cannot wait for sex life to just be about fun again tbh! I find it v stressful which is part of the reason I've wimped out not used opks yet, I think I'll just get very obsessed.

Welcome Lucy, I'm a lurker here but chip in once in a while!

Having got a BFN on Friday, AF still hasn't made an appearance so now I don't know what to do. Today is day 28 for me but I have had anything from 25 - 32 day cycles so just feel in limbo - and no idea about what to do about Christmas!! We will be away with family so should I do another test before going on Xmas eve?? Help! Arghhhhhh.

Thanks for the welcome. So sorry AF arrived Sebs, it is just so shit isn't it. I POAS this morning, on two different sticks, and they were both negative so it looks like I'm just waiting for AF to arrive tomorrow. I know it really is no consolation but at least we can enjoy some wine and cheese and smoked salmon over christmas, I was wondering how I would have explained the not drinking to my family if I had got my BFP. It is definately better to have found out now and not on christmas day, at least we can move on a little bit and just enjoy the day with our DCs.
Punky poor you. I know how you feel about desperately feeling the need to DTD when you get to your fertile period and DH just not being interested, they just don't feel the desperation the same way as us do they! I hope you have managed to DTD enough this cycle and can relax a bit and enjoy christmas now.

So sorry Sebs :-( I know it isn't much comfort but as you say at least you know before xmas, so you can eat and drink all the naughty things. 2014 will be our year I'm sure!

Hi Lucy, welcome to the madhouse. I think OPKs are good.. well if you actually see anything! They worked really well for me before the ectopic, and nothing since, not even a hint of a line :-(

Zippy, sorry you did your last test because of me.

FedUp, glad you had a good night out on Friday :-) Those nights are so important to get back on an even keel.

Well basal temperature went straight back down to normal pre-ov temps since I've been back home so the temp spike must have been due to in-laws having heating on all night. Still nothing on OPKs, a bit of CM on underwear, etc though wouldn't say EWCM so maybe will ov today or tomorrow.. DH has been a real pain this week as far as DTD goes.. I ended up in tears last night after he said he was too tired Friday night so we'd do it in the morning.. Then in the morning DS woke up very early and was shouting from his bedroom, so DH said we'd DTD when DS has his afternoon nap.. But then his football team were on the radio, so that didn't happen either.. so after wearing my sexy underwear all day I of course just assumed we would do it at bedtime, but DH looked at me like I was mad and just said 'it's 11pm, I'm knackered' and turned the light off. I was so upset and angry, but managed to say 'well I assume we will give it a go in the morning?' He replied huffily 'well you will have to set the alarm for 6.30', so I did. Then once he was asleep I had a good sob. I don't understand why he is being such an a*se about it! It's difficult enough after waiting all this time since the ectopic. I'm temping, doing OPK's, taking conception vitamins, trying not to drink too much alcohol, etc.. and finally it gets to the fertile period and he decides after doing it a couple of times earlier in the week to be difficult when it gets to the 'peak' time!!! Anyway, so we DTD this morning, and I am hoping that is it for this cycle because I can't be doing with feeling like I'm trying to force him, or walking on eggshells about it. He supposedly wants this as much as me.. am so hacked off today. :-(

Hi ladies, I wondered if I could join you? My DD turned 2 at the start of November and I am just coming to the end of cycle 6 of ttc #2, and it is definately driving me totally crazy! We took a bit of a back seat this month with DTD but I am holding on to a glimmer of hope that by giving up it will get me a BFP. I think AF is due on monday and am thinking of testing tomorrow morning. Have been getting cramps all day though so it doesn't look good.
Sebs I just wanted to say I am in a similar position to you, my cycles are very regular at 25/26 days, but the past few months AF has arrived early, giving me a cycle of 23 days, so I am a bit worried there is not enough time for implantation to occur. I have used OPKs once, but think I will use them again next cycle to check when I ovulate and see how long my LP is.
Hello to everyone else and hope you are looking forward to christmas!

fedup, you sound in great form. Impressed in the extreme.

sebs, are you certain. boo hiss if so. and lots of christmas drinks at least. short cycles mean more chances, I suppose.

punka, you made me do the other test in the pack! no need to state the obvious response.

CBFM tells me today, day 12 is the first day of medium fertility. i ovulate late (day 24 last month) so here is hoping for peak fertility at bit earlier. although i am crazy busy trying to finish work, wrap, buy last few presents, buy food for christmas dinner and subsequent buffets etc so fitting in dtd is almost another thing on the list at the moment. :)

Just woken up with an immense head ache. But it was so much fun!! I got in at 5.30am, silly girl. But then DH and I dtd! It was really good fun sex, none of this ttc malarkey. Just like the old days :)

I've not been out properly in ages so was a great release. And I got chatted up so many times and been given phone numbers by men. I'm just in shock. I thought I was too old for this! These men were suprised I was being faithful to my husband. Too many people cheat out there.. Do people not believe in manogamy any more?! I married DH for a reason and no matter how gorgeous you are, am not cheating on him!

How is everyone else? Oh sebs, just read you think af is here :( what a bitch. All sounded so promising. I was so hopeful for you. The witch can be so cruel. Hugs xxxx

punky how confusing. I go by cm too so not sure what I would do if it didnt arrive. I'm also too grossed out to check my own cervix position and cm up there, so you aren't alone on that one. Wish I could but just can't!!! I would keep
Dtd every couple of days this month if you can, jic. And see what temp does when back in normal heating place! Sometimes all the cm can stay up, so you may well have ov'd.

Now I've stopped bleeding am officially back on the ttc wagon. Not really this month as no clue re timings etc and would prefer to get one cycle out the way...

I also POAS throughout cycle. Even after af! Costs me a fortune but can't help it!!