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If TTC # 2 has turned you into a nut job this thread is for you! (Part 4)

689 replies

sebsmummy1 · 05/12/2013 09:16

Hey!! We have had lots of graduates from Part 3, so let's get on the TTC bus part 4 and make this place a ghost town.

Destination Pregnancy, choooo choooooo Grin

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weebairn · 06/01/2014 09:23

waves

I've turned into a nutjob and only on month one. I thought I would be MORE relaxed with number 2 but it seems not! Everything I've been reading (except things trying to sell you stuff!) says fertility experts advise not monitoring (as it can be inaccurate/stressful) and having lots of sex throughout the whole cycle, so that's the approach I'm taking… however if it doesn't work for a few months or more I may re-think!

I am still bf but having regular periods. I think that means you're USUALLY fertile? Unless you have known problems? Eep! Step away from Dr Google and keep shagging, that's my philosophy…

Let's have some BFPs soon ladies! :)

fedupofrainydays · 06/01/2014 09:21

Hi sebs welcome back!!!! Just a quick one re cbfm I have heard it takes a few months to figure you out.

Glad you are back and got a doctor appt in the diary :)

Xx

Cakebaker35 · 06/01/2014 09:18

Happy new year everyone and sebs I really hopes the docs tomorrow is helpful, keep us posted. I've just about managed to resist buying the clearblue monitor, think I'd better give opks a go first of all.

Giving everyone a wave who is still TTC and still a nut job, no change here.

sebsmummy1 · 06/01/2014 09:11

Hiya girls. Happy new year to us all xxx

Well I have bitten the bullet and made a doctors appointment for tomorrow. I, possibly very stupidly, used my christmas money to buy a clearblue fertility monitor, and all it's managed to do is make me feel even more disconcerted.

I honestly have no idea if I'm ovulating or not. I started it on cd7 instead of cd5, which might not have helped. But is thrown up a high from cd 10 to cd16 and I think missed my surge (if there was one). Just looking at the test sticks has made me feel as though my hormones are fucked. There is no obvious sign of oestrogen rising and my LH line has stayed pretty static. The only sticks that look that different are around cd11/cd12 so I'm going to assume if I did ovulate, it was probably around that time.

The only things that are positive is my post partum hair loss has finally stopped, which could be an indication if hormones stabilising.

Hopefully zippy might be able to sympathise with me re the fertility monitor I remember yours was throwing you lots if highs too.

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Jakeyblueblue · 05/01/2014 23:23

Thanks everyone. Smile
Zippy that's really interesting. I think we may have crossed paths before on another thread too!
Sounds like we are at the same sort of stage with this ttc lark! I've decided I'm going to night wean at the end of the week, leaving just a bed time feed to see if that helps.
I think I will stick around guys if that's ok. Nice to chat with some people who understand how frustrating this all is!

zippygeorgebungle · 04/01/2014 17:43

Hi jakey, I am about the same age as you, and one baby who is nearly 2, conceived instantly. Bf her until early November but it was down to once a day in the evening (and the odd 3am feed...). Periods came back when she was nearly one. TTC since April/May. Periods were regular, appearing on day 27, just as before DD.

In late Sept, after 6 cycles, I went to the GP. Surprisingly, perhaps, given I was bfing, 35 and had a DD conceived first cycle, she ordered blood tests at day 3 and day 21, and a scan. Scan was perfectly normal. The day 21 tests indicated I was not OVing, but I am fairly sure that was because the cycle was unusually long that month, unhelpfully. However, I wanted more answers when the blood tests were unusual, and the GP didnt seem to know, so I paid to see a consultant in November. £200 and an appointment the same week. GP wrongly assured me that Bfing would make no difference as I have regular periods and was once a day.

Consultant is quite an eminent chap, runs an IVF clinic, seems to know his stuff. Anyway, he took one look at the day 3 results and said a) he thought I was ovulating, and b) he could see I had very low FSH levels. Low FSH is a good sign because it gets high when you are peri menopausal.Low is caused by excessive exercise, being underweight or bfing. With me, he was confident it was recent bfing as I am normal weight and don't exercise too much.

A couple of months on, I've stopped bfing but still leak milk occasionally (I always had lots and carried on bfing even when working FT hours). He has suggested I leave it a bit then have some scans through the cycle to check when OV is happening. I cling on to the words in the letter that say there is a good chance of conceiving without assistance now bfing has ceased. fingers crossed. good luck. x

PunkyBubba · 04/01/2014 14:13

Well after only DTD once in the fertile period, an extra long cycle, and expecting AF any day (not to mention now being a uni-tuber) I am not expecting much this month. It would be a miracle to get a BFP this cycle.

I'm only really looking forward to going back to work as I am kind of changing jobs.. going back to travelling with work rather than wfh. I liked the convenience of wfh, but hated my role and never seeing anyone (apart from DH who also wfh!). Anyway, looking forward to something a bit more challenging, being a part of the human race again, and some me-time in the evenings.. I only work a 3 day week so only will be away 2 nights so it is just enough without missing DH and DS too much.

fedupofrainydays · 04/01/2014 07:32

Hi punky phewf what a few days for your family! Hope you are ok and DS has been mended.
Welcome to the 2 ww with me. Although I don't actually know if I've ovulated and having weird cramps so this is a funny cycle for sure (but as expected as first since mc)

I'm dreading going back to work :(

PunkyBubba · 03/01/2014 20:20

Hey everyone,

I'm ok thanks, temps did go up and FertilityFriend has given me an ov date of day 20, last Saturday, and we bd'd on the Friday.. so in the 2ww now, and hoping for a decent luteal phase this month, though skin has broken out like crazy in spots which has been a recent sign (since EP) of upcoming AF.. just like when I was a teenager(!) so will see..

Been a bit hectic last few days. DH has man flu, and DS (2 yrs old) ended up in hospital (minor injuries unit) yesterday in lots of pain with a dislocated elbow.. GPs this morning about that and other things, and back to hospital as his arm still wasn't better, and then sent to an A&E in another hospital where they finally fixed it.. fun fun fun.

Another one happy to see the back of 2013.. we didn't even stay up on NYE, DH was just starting with the man flu, and went to bed at 10pm, and I was tired so just went at the same time (knowing I had no back up if DS had a bad night). Our bottle of bubbly is still in the fridge unopened!

I'm sorry I can't help about the no ov queries.. I got pregnant with the Ectopic on the 2nd month of trying (2 months after coming off the pill) so am assuming everything is working in that department for me (just my tube that failed us) though no idea what impact the ectopic has had on ovulation... I guess I will see in time.

Hope everyone's start to the New Year has been a bit more fun than mine! Am actually looking forward to go back to work next Monday for a rest :-)

xxx

fedupofrainydays · 03/01/2014 07:30

I didn't get proper periods back til I stopped bf altogether jakey. But my ds was only 9 / 10 months. I first got preg again when ds was 14 months (first time we tried but then miscarried and still here with just another mc to show for it)

cake just lie a bit about how long trying and ask for a day 21 test - most doctors will offer you this if you are worried about not ovulating. I was offered it 4 months after mc after I said I was worried i wasn't ovulating after my mc.

zippy I've heard mixed reviews about the cbfm but mostly positive from RL people and just more neg on MN. It could be that your body is gearing up to ov at its 'usual' time but actually only releases the egg later hence the late / no ov. In theory the progesterone test should happen 7 days before af arrives. Tricky if like me your cycles are all over the place!!! I think somewhere I read to go on your longest cycle and do 7 days back from there.

So I'm in the 2 ww of my wtf cycle. DH is upstairs being ill and I feel like af is on its way. Was going to POAS this morn for a laugh but then decided to wait it out. I don't actually know when af is due tho - I think some time next week.

How are you doing punky?

Jakeyblueblue · 02/01/2014 22:29

Hi everyone,
I haven't read the whole thread, only the last couple if pages, but found it really interesting and was hoping I could pick your brains / join in.
Bit of background. Am 34 with a 2.6 yr old ds. Tried for sometime to conceive him but dh was working awful hrs at the time and I'd come off depo so think neither thing helped. Am still bf ds, periods came back when he was 14 months. Had a very short LP for a lot of the following cycles but since I day weaned about 4 months ago, I've had regular 29 day cycles. Have temped and opk'd and am pretty sure I'm ovulating but still not pregnant Hmm
Zippy was this what happened to you? I see you've written about bf being the cause. Everyone I speak to tells me how easy it is to fall pregs whilst bf but it's not my experience at all. Any advice would be much appreciated. Smile

Cakebaker35 · 01/01/2014 21:36

Hi Zippy, only off the pill in oct and not been very scientific about when etc as was just waiting for my cycle to calm down a bit, plus Dec a right off with work commitments etc getting in the way. So I doubt GP would do anything yet?

zippygeorgebungle · 01/01/2014 20:06

How long have you been TTC cakebaker? I was very surprised to find I was possibly not OVing. I had periods as regular as clockwork, an instantly conceived one year old, and had been trying for 6 month. Also, the OPKs always showed a smiley each month, I used them from the second month of trying. It was the day 21 blood tests that showed no/late OV. so maybe the GP could confirm it to put your mind at rest? With me it is is the bfing that was to blame. But if you weren't OVing this is something that can be remedied it seems.

My CB fertility monitor is causing me confusion. So many days of high fertility (11 days now!) but no peak. I am not convinced it was £100 well spent but it is making me get lots of trying in at least.

Statistically, surely there will be some BFPs on here soon. Bring them on!

Cakebaker35 · 01/01/2014 18:35

Happy new everyone and here's hoping all our mad cycles calm down and we get a load of BFPs.

Felt ridiculously emotional earlier after chatting to someone who suggested I might not be ovulating at all given my slightly all over the place cycle. Hadn't even occurred to me that that might be what's going on so now I'm fretting about it. Looks like I'll have to start using opks to find out! So much for my attempts at a calm and relaxed approach to TTC!!! Bloody body!

2beornot · 01/01/2014 14:43

Happy new year, ladies. Hope you're doing ok. I hope 2014 is the year you get your longed for babies (or BFPs at the least).

Fedup - I agree with you about 2013 being a pile of shit. I burst into tears during auld lang syne last night. Hopefully the new year can help us put the anguish behind us x

fedupofrainydays · 01/01/2014 14:11

Happy new year! We are now in 2014 and it's gonna be a great one!

Yay for a temp rise punky - phewf!

Got pretty drunk last night but I didn't cry which is more than I can say for yesterday afternoon!! Head hurts today so chilling on sofa watching toy story with DS

PunkyBubba · 31/12/2013 18:35

Totally agree FedUp.. 2014 will be the year for us all. Am glad to see the back of 2013 (apart from the getting married bit which was a rare highlight)..

Got a high temp this morning, well .2 higher than it has been.. so am hoping this is it.. will see tomorrow! All this hassle just to ov!

Happy New Year everyone.. Looking forward to a quiet night in as DH is ill so other plans cancelled. Hope you're all doing something nice.xxx

fedupofrainydays · 31/12/2013 16:44

Just a quick one to cheers in the happy new year with you! 2014 has to be a good year for us all. 2013 has been utterly shite and I'm so glad to see the back of it. Actually feel all emotional about it and burst into tears on way back from my trip to shops... Thank god it was raining or all passers by would have thought I'm nuts which we all know I am

Sorry to hear about weird cycles and weird ovulation timings - I believe 2014 is going to sort it all out for us and we will have our dc 2s next year - whoop! Xxxx

zippygeorgebungle · 30/12/2013 15:49

oh punky,boo hiss.

day 20 here and lots of high fertility but no peak. I think I had all the OV signs yesterday but no peak. fed up of the whole thing now! x

PunkyBubba · 30/12/2013 12:15

Hey girls, sorry I haven't written in a while, been hectic with Christmas, etc, and also pretty confused about my cycle and didnt want to just ramble on here. If you are still lurking Sebs am sorry to see you go, though understand your reasons.. Hope to see you back when you are ready.

So basically the reason I am confused is that for months I have ov'd on cycle day 13, before and after the EP. Last month I ov'd on day 13, but cycle was only 22 days long.. which is unusual for me. This cycle I am on day 22, and still not ov'd. DTD every other day preceding day 13, but think I might have mentioned on here I wasn't getting EWCM.. that didnt come until day 16 or 17.. and finally on Friday I got a pos OPK (day 19), and again on Sunday.. I was out all day yesterday so didnt test, but this morning still no temp rise!!! Also been nauseous, and having pains on both sides for days.. I usually get a bit of ov pain, but it tends to be short-lived, and I don't normally get nausea with it! Anyway, as I previously mentioned DH got fed up of DTD well before Christmas though I convinced him on Friday night after the pos opk.. now I just feel very deflated again and hacked off about it all. I just want this cycle to end, and hope the next one will be more normal! This was meant to be the first cycle ttc again since the EP and it has basically been a total washout as far as I am concerned :-(

I've been making the most of being able to drink this Christmas too.. mulled wine, sloe gin, and quite a few Tia Maria coffees :-) Really hoping next year will be different though.. xxx

fedupofrainydays · 29/12/2013 22:57

Sorry af rocked up cake. So annoying when she's late.

Yeah, I said to the doc at EPU that I just know too much. Wish I was ignorant about ttc and could just relax and it would have happened. But true... Back in the day we would have popped them all out by this age and have a few grandkids of our own!

Cakebaker35 · 29/12/2013 11:27

Well AF finally made an appearance today - so this is officially my longest ever cycle grrr.

Thanks fedup and zippy, it is definitely worse with all the hanging about and waiting, feel better already now just knowing we can get cracking again soon!! And yes zippy I think all the knowledge is a double edged sword sometimes - but mind you if we were back in the day we'd all have about 7 children each wouldn't we by the time we were 25!

Fingers and toes crossed for lots of BFPs in 2014!

zippygeorgebungle · 28/12/2013 18:33

.cake, I was late this month too and it made the bfn somehow worse. let's hope it is your turn for bfp, we need some on here!

This has been my first christmas of drinking too in a while, i was bfing last year and pregnant before that.Day 19 here but several days of high fertility (not peak) on the clear blue monitor. Trying to remind myself this is only cycle 2 post bfing. Consultant was clear that my hormones were that of a woman bfing and I have unusually low FSH (supposedly a good sign aged 35?) consistent with bfing but undoubtedly in his view likely to be causing conception trouble - should be fine once settled down. I suppose it is just a case of waiting for my body to readjust, but no idea how long this takes. I still leak a little milk occasionally (I always had tonnes of milk from late pregnancy onwards). I forgot to ask the consultant how long, foolishly. I'm sure it would have come with some warnings about every body being different anyway.

It's great we know so much more than our grandmothers would have done, but I sometimes wonder if all the knowledge makes it tougher for us too, oddly enough. Though actually my gran, in her 90s who has many children, said to me bfing was a great way to space out children so maybe they were using the same timing techniques we are for the opposite purpose.

fedupofrainydays · 28/12/2013 16:29

Ha ha, I love port! I've drank every day since Xmas eve and off out tonight for a birthday too!
Think I haven't ovulated this month but suppose after mc that isn't unusual.
Sorry about the weird cycle / bfn scenario. I hate it when af is uncharacteristically late...
Right - just got new laptop. It's all modern and touch screen! Here goes figuring this one out...

Cakebaker35 · 28/12/2013 14:22

Just checking back in with you all, hoping you all had a fantastic festive time?

I drank my own body weight in port so it's all a bit of a blur here. Still no AF and still BFN! 34 day cycle for me, never ever had one this long! Stupidly got my hopes up that maybe, just maybe if I did another test today I'd get a BFP, but nope, I'm still being a nut job about it all.

Now where did I put that port....

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