If TTC # 2 has turned you into a nut job this thread is for you! (Part 4)

Hello tap I am a newbie too
Sebs I just wanted to say that made me giggle reading about your psychic explorations! My immediate thought was where is this person, how do I get in touch with them! I do not believe in any of that psychic babble whatsoever, but this ttc malarkey really gets you grasping at straws doesn't it!
Fedup that is so unfair with your sister. I know a few people who got pregnant by mistake and then decided it was wonderful and went on to have some more. Just like that, so easy.
I'm sick of people saying things like ooh your DD is two?? Time to start trying for another one! I know people just don't think about things like secondary infertility but, well, they should!!!!
Jakey that is a good way to think, but I am such a negative nancy that I just keep thinking if I managed to get pregnant once before, why is it so hard to do it again!!
Also agree that working offers no solace. If anything the ttc is ruining my job, as I just cannot concentrate at work for constantly thinking about babies and being pregnant, and googling success/failure stories. It doesn't help that I hate my job and was only sticking it out in the hopes that I wouldn't be there for much longer as in a parallel universe I am now 7 months pregnant.
Good luck with the revision fedup.
Good luck with weaning Jakey, how do you think ds will take it?

Welcome Tap :)

Well Fed up, you were right about us being at the same point. AF came today, and to add insult to injury it's been REALLY painful :( I knew this morning when my temp dropped massively (though I still spent an hour googling 'massive temp drop at 12 dpo any chance?) and other variations of the same topic.

My one consolation is that my lp is longer this cycle without having taken anything to lengthen it, and hoping next cycle is more settled. Now just to prepare DH for lots of BD in a couple of weeks!

Xx

Welcome tap

Thanks ladies, just still feel shit and had a go at my sister with 3 kids for not understanding. FFS she even took the morning after pill and was still pregnant with one of them. Just feels so unfair. I can't face my NCT - not at the mo. Too hard with all their sibling brigades.

sebs no, no looking into it on NHS as I've "only" had two. Sucks.

Right, got a night of revision ahead of me before some exams tomorrow - and already ready for sleep!

Don't lose hope fed up! I heard a story the other day About secondary infertility that came good in the end. Think we've just got to keep plodding on. We all got pregnant before, so it can happen again. That's what I keep telling myself anyway.
From my end I'm on 11 dpo I think. Got major skin break out so am just waiting AF I think. It's not something I usually have but equally, I don't remember it being a preg sign either.
Strangely enough ds did 6 hrs straight last night. First time ever in 2 and a half yrs. was going to start weaning tonight but feeling very tired and may just wait and see if its a fluke or not. Basically I'm wimping out. Not sure why I had to be the one that can't get pregs whilst bf. My best mate got up duffed whilst she was bf her one year old and with only one bloody ovary. So not fair.
Welcome tap dancing!

Hello! Yes, I've learned lots from this thread too. I had another day 3 blood test today, to see if the bfing hormone suppression has stopped yet. I seem to have a better GP than I realised, seeing some posts on here, though I think paying for the private consultation worked. The next stage next month is to have some scans through next month to work out more about when/if ovulation is happening etc.

I agree working offers no solace. I work FT hours in a high stress position but about the half of the time I can work from home. I work a strange pattern so I still get to do major amounts of the childcare. I saw NCT pals today with babies and ended up tearful on the drive home, though they would have had no idea I was feeling sad. Cuddling the baby while my own baby said "hello baby" and "baby crying now" got me a bit.

Good luck everyone!

Hello everyone,

Gonna join in if that's ok....Currently on cycle 5 of TTC #2.

Started fretting that I wasn't ovulating (zero symptoms and have never had a positive OPK). Went to GP last month who did blood tests, going abck next week to discuss.

Currently on CD11, first time using Conceive Plus - DTD last night and this morning. I honestly have no idea when I ovulate (if I even do!).

Said on a separate thread that I noticed a very slight bit of EWCM yesterday but was quite bloody (sorry).

Anyway, good luck everyone, here's hoping.

Oh fedup, sorry you're feeling rubbish but at least now AF is here you can put that cycle behind you. It's so tough, please don't give up hope, I was reading further back in the thread and you were really positive about 2014, we will get a BFP somewhere on this thread and there's no reason why it won't be you.

Was chatting to my lovely sil who had 4 mcs TTC 2, she gave up all hope and then bang it happened - she was 38 so I'm trying to remember this whenever i feel gloomy about it all.

Well af arrived this morning.
Relieved in one way and another just feel sad and tired of it all.
Oh well, I've had a last minute cancellation for training I'm doing so I've got to revise super hard tonight for assessments tomorrow and weekend of training. Eeeeek.

Feel I need to come to terms with just having one child. I'm struggling with that though.

Working does not make me any less of a nut job unfortunately. Although yes, it does provide some distraction and I can claim to have not thought about being pregnant for a good few hours today - whoop! I'm a management consultant, working mainly in health, adults and children's social care. Stressful and high pressure. So it's tough when the ewcm appears mid week!!

Ok so still no af except cramping like crazy. Bit scared as got some yellowy cm which I got before the last bfp which ended in mc as most of you know. I actually don't want it to be a bfp as would be a late implanter (bfn yesterday morn) if that's the case and late ones don't last with me. Just want af now. Never thought I would say that. On knicker watch (and now cotton bud when get home). Ttc is such a head fuck.

They do say regular sex throughout cycle is the best but also appreciate that doesn't work for everyone with busy jobs, lives or those that work away - doctor said to me twice a week was optimum! Wtf! Never get updiffed that way!

Phone means I can't read all updates but hope everyone is ok and punky it seems we are at the same stage!!

Yes jakey, agree sometimes timing it just puts pressure on everyone, so I'm going for the as much as possible approach this month in the hope I'm less stressed about it all although i'm desperate to try and time it to perfection really

Also - whilst on the topic of shagging. We took ages to conceive ds, ended up seeing fertility nurse. At the time dh was working crazy hours and we were only Dtd once or twice a month, around mid cycle. She pretty much told me to go away as I wasn't trying hard enough, she told me to forget timing it and just to Dtd 3x weekly every week of the next cycle and come back in six months if it did not work. I fell pregnant that cycle!
We've been trying to stick to this but it's been very difficult with dh work but maybe this approach would be easier on your dh's that are struggling with Dtd on demand. Just tell them they need to Dtd 3 x a week and leave it up to them when that is???
Just a thought

Bloody hell jakey your GP sounds like a useless b£stard! Definitely do try to see someone else if you can, if he's that disinterested in you then I'd be worried about seeing him for anything tbh.

Really good luck with the night weaning, it may not be as bad as you think, and even if the first night is tough hang in there as it can only get better.

Hmm shagging in 10 mins, sounds ideal, my bolognese might not have been burnt then. Perhaps I shouldn't tell dh to hurry up tho in case it puts him off forever

Decided if we have no luck this month then it will be opks next month. On another thread I asked if Internet cheapies or big brand ones are best? Quite a mixed response, would love to hear any other experiences/recommendations?

I'm in the same boat with the shagging. We do everyday around the ewcm and then a few after for good measure. Luckily though dh is good with this and just does as he is told. He's also never been one to take his time so I'm not subjected to hours of it or anything. He can usually perform within 10 mins so at least it's over with and I can fit it in around having a toddler !
I've been to the gp about this and also got no help. He said I needed to make an appt with a lady dr who knew about breastfeeding and periods as he didn't. I kid you not. He also said he wouldn't do bloods until I stopped bf. Also unhelpful.
Having said that though, what could they offer??? Other than ivf which we can't afford. I guess there is clomid but I'm pretty sure I'm ovulating as temping.
It all feels a bit hopeless at the moment tbh. Going to night wean over the weekend and see if that helps. Not looking forward to that one bit.
I've looked at vitex but shied away due to the concerns about ovulation, I've been on 100mg b6 for an eternity and that Def lengthened LP so would reccomend if you've not tried. I'm also considering acupuncture and going to try to eat a better diet. Running out of ideas though now!

Just checking in ladies. Wow you are all so knowledgeable, I would have no idea how to check position of cervix and even if I did what would I be looking for?

Sorry sebs your GP was so dismissive, I'd be tempted to see someone else in a few months time if I were you? He is right to say 6 months isn't that long but I'd want to know he was at least interested in seeing you again in a few months. V impressed with 5 days on the trot DTD! Really hope it is your month for good news.

punky I totally know what you mean about trying to get DH on board (ahem). Ended up having a mighty row with DH the other eve as he hates the whole on demand thing. I didn't handle it well to be fair and just went into full shouty mode which was pointless as DH never responds well to that! When I finally calmed down I managed to explain to him a bit more about just how tricky this conception thing is, that dtd every so often just wont work and that there really is a v limited window etc then it seemed to sink in a bit - we were so lucky first time around I think he is under a big false idea it will be easy again too. Anyway I think he got the message as arrived home last night, made me down tools mid bolognese cooking and said right come on then!! But we will see, it really is hard to sustain every other day when you have busy lives.

fedup so sorry work is rubbish, what do you do, if that isn't too nosey (and I haven't missed earlier in thread)? I'm a SAHM at the moment, but almost double edged sword as I have too much time to think about this baby making lark and am always surrounded by children, not helping me to be calm and avoid being a nut job!

Welcome jakey and wishing you lots of luck and hello to lucy, this thread is full of knowledgeable people isn't it, plus me who's a bit clueless and going more nutty each month

Oh sorry, forgot to say hi to Jakey and Lucy

Thanks girls :-) I'm not sure if I have the guts at the moment to have a discussion with DH about the ttc, but it really feels good just to get these things off my chest as I have no one else I can talk to about it. He is a bit old-fashioned so I don't talk about CM to him.. You are right Sebs in that it is the whole sex on demand he can't stand. He has never been one to be told what to do and has told me many times how much he hates it. We have agreed that as long as he has prior notice he is a bit less annoyed with the whole thing, but it is difficult at the mo when my cycles are soooo messed up.. and unfortunately there is no way we can go for the 'every other day' approach as we are both knackered and fed up within a week, and this month I was over a week late Ov'ing.. so by the time I was fertile he was totally off the whole thing! Like I said before.. I managed to get one more in one day before Ov.. but the whole couple of weeks were awful for me. Next cycle I am definitely holding off until I see EWCM.. and forget what my app predicts!

I'm 11dpo today (last month AF came on 10dpo so at least LP is 1 day longer). More pink CM today.. though feeling slightly crampy so am hopeful one minute and depressed the next.. I sooo think the witch is coming today.

I actually was ready to go and buy some Vitex yesterday Sebs! I was reading about extending Luteal Phase again and on top of B6 some women swore by Red Raspberry Tea and Vitex (apparently you can buy them together in one product). At the moment though LP seems to be extending again naturally, so might wait one more cycle to see what it does. I really don't want to be pill popping as I may just get more obsessive about this than I already am!

Hope you are having a better day today Fed Up.xxx

I'm really squeamish and the thought of checking cervical position really grosses me out! I could cope with cotton buds to check cm tho!

Good luck jakey sounds like it could be implantation.

punky it's so tough isn't it. I too have starter to tell my husband about cm too. Fortunately he's so keen for another child (ds is 2.3 now and we wanted no 2 since he was 1) he puts up with it. I do think you should talk to your husband about it or it will just get worse. Sounds ridiculous perhaps but would diarising sex days work? Then at least he know what's expected at the beginning of the month of he wants another child? I usually have a chat with My husband about what's out plan this month. That way it's a shared plan that you both stick too rather than you feeling you are forcing him at certain times?

Still in my dark place. Day 2 of work. Ugh. Feeling crampy so maybe af on way at last. Want it out the way now :(