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TTC no 3? Anyone just started / about to start / about to start thinking about it?

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bonzo77 · 06/11/2013 14:59

I am absolutely not going to go nuts about it this time like I did for no 2. Because my kids have each other and won't be alone looking after their ancient parents in years to come. But a 3rd would be a bonus. And part of me doesn't care either way, and another part cannot wait for a lovely little snuggly new born. And part of me is enjoying getting my nights back, and my body, and is worried about the money, the lack of bedrooms, the need for a bigger car, having another miscarriage, or high risk pregnancy, a 3rd CS, a baby in intensive care. But then 5 months of no contraception and nothings happening..... The baby is 11 months, and we said we'd start putting more effort in once he is 1....

Anyone in the same boat? Want to hang out and worry / pretend not to worry?

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Cakecrumbsinmybra · 08/02/2014 10:47

What are people up to? bonzo, have not heard anything from you for a while - everything OK? Or perhaps you have some news to share...?

Nothing new here - I definitely do not feel pg! The only odd thing I have had this month is some spotting a couple of days after ov, which doesn't normally happen. I usually spot on day 10 or so, which also happened, but not after ov'ing. But I think that would be too early for implantation, so was probably just that - a bit of spotting! I guess implantation time would be about now, but I don't have any niggles or anything. No sore boobs etc. So I expect AF on Valentines Day (how romantic).

maxpower, when is your AF (or bfp!) due?

maxpower · 03/02/2014 18:15

God, this 2ww has gone on for about a year. .... and still another week to go.

busyDays · 03/02/2014 14:22

Congrats Tranquility!! That sounds really positive. I bet it is only a matter of time now before he completely caves in. Grin

I'm still working on dh and hoping he will come around to the idea of ttc soon. I was going to throw an old baby item out the other day and he said we should keep it as we might need it for number 3, so I'm feeling quite hopeful.

Cakecrumbsinmybra · 03/02/2014 13:27

tranquility - yes, very normal! Every month I think "is this really what we want?"!

Well, 2WW wait for me now...

Tranquilitybaby · 01/02/2014 23:46

Little update from me, I've got noone else to talk to as nobody knows how I've been feeling. DH and I have been talking things over for the last couple of days and today he said he's feeling more positive about possibly trying for no. 3!

He said he's going to think about it some more but if we do he wants to start just before we go on holiday in July. Eek! Is it normal to feel scared now?!

inadreamworld · 28/01/2014 10:42

Interesting book Boba might read that - especially as use natural family planning too.

AF 2 days late but won't test for a week or so as has been late in the past occasionally and not been pregnant. Haven't been trying for that long as DD2 is only just turned one! I find it takes a while for cycles to become regular again after giving birth - even though I wasn't able to breastfeed either of my children.

BobaFetaCheese · 28/01/2014 10:17

Joining up, lots of ttc1/2 threads around here...not very many 3+ Grin

Bonzo, I've found Taking Charge of your Fertility to be an excellent book for everything plumbing related, I've learnt so much from it and found it useful for when we're NOT trying (use natural family planning as contraception).

Sorry to here about you mmc Teresa.

Cakecrumbsinmybra · 27/01/2014 13:14

Welcome MrsKent!

Molotov and bonzo, I haven't made a GP app - I have been kind of thinking, what's the point? I don't want any invasive tests. I don't want to have IVF. It would be different if it were No. 1 or 2. But No.3? I will just be happy with what I've got. Which I am, of course!

Infact, DH keeps mumbling about perhaps it's a blessing in disguise (and I have to admit I do, when DS2 continues to wake me up in the middle of the night at age 3!!).

But dtd'ing has started nonetheless. It is CD11 for me and I'll think I'll use the ov sticks again (just to use them up really as I always know when I'm ov'ing anyway). Good luck!

MrsKent · 25/01/2014 09:08

Hi Ladies,
Hope you don't mind me joining, it's my first time ever commenting on MN.
I have two gorgeous children and I'm ttc a third.
My two first pregnancies were unexpected so I thought this time when trying it would happen really quickly... But hasn't yet... And I am finding I'm struggling with the wait! A lot!

MolotovCocktail · 24/01/2014 19:43

Yeah, I think counselling is valuable. I felt consumed by guilt by the idea thst dd1 sonwhow wasn't 'enough' for us. It took me over a year to reconcile that most people don't even have to consider this; that most people just get pg.

But then, I think too much. And if I am completely honest, I compare myself too much to others. Who knows what really goes on with other people?

Meanwhile, I took my first folic acid supplement today. If I am going to consider another pg aroubd spring, better prepare now ...

bonzo77 · 24/01/2014 14:59

Thanks molotov. As a medical person I understand that tests without an intention to treat would be a waste of time and money. I'm not sure what treatment I'd want to undergo. Certainly paying for IUI or IVF is off the cards. I'd rather spend the money on the kids we've got that trying to make another one. If it were a case of me not ovulating, or some hormone defect, or blockages that could be dealt with relatively easily, I think we would try.

The thought of the tests you describe doesn't bother me really. Apart from the HSG they're all part of what I've had done as part of routine gynae and miscarriage care. DH already did a SA when we were struggling last time (I got pg that month)! I read that There's some anecdotal evidence that suggests that the HSG has some therapeutic value in "flushing" the reproductive tract. TBH with 2 CS and a query over a previous history of endo (I'm not convinced), I wouldn't be surprised if it showed adhesions.

As for counselling... It's something I should pursue for myself anyway, irrespective of TTC. It's very much on my to do list, and once I get some childcare sorted for ds2 it'll be adressed pronto.

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MolotovCocktail · 23/01/2014 20:39

bonzo, going to the gp will start a cycle of fertility investigations. You will be referred to an NHS infertility clinic; your and your dp will be asked a series of questions relating to your sexual health, sexual habits, previous pregnancies. Your dp will be required to provide a semen sample in order to examine the motility, mobility and morphology of sperm.

You would be subjected to more invasive tests: a cervical smear, a trans-vaginal ultrasound scan to check the ovaries and a HSG x-ray. This is an x-ray of the uterus and fallopian tubes to check for blockages/scarring/anything that may be preventing a pg. It's extremely invasive and involves a radio-opaque dye being flushed through the uterus and fallopian tubes whilst the x-ray takes place.

A diagnosis will be made upon the results from these and only then would you receive treatment (this is how it worked for us on the NHS in late 2010/early 2011).

It's a means to an end and if you are desparate, you'll do it. If I was to give myself advice back then, however, it would be to have counselling. I didn't have any - I was in denial of how much it was all affecting and me and if I'm honest, the fact that we were struggling ttc as well as having all of these invasive, cold, clinical tests, took a toll on my mental health.

It can take 2 years for a healthy couple to conceive a child naturally. This means fucking shit when you're desparate to carry a baby but, it's worth thinking about before you start upon the path of fertility investigations.

bonzo77 · 23/01/2014 20:18

orange i've not been to the GP. I think I'll leave it till september. that will be over a year of trying in earnest, DS1 will be started at school, and DS2 will be 21 months. I'm not sure how much sympathy i'd get, what will they do? I'm going to really try to chart temps as that's a good way to check if I am actually ovulating. DS2's sleeping is pretty good now, rarely waking in the night and sleeping till 6.30 most mornings, so that will help make charting more accurate.

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bonzo77 · 23/01/2014 20:15

welcome teresa and sorry for your loss. I had a mmc between DS1 and DS2. I was pg pretty soon after, but did have some wonky cycles in between. I found vitamin B6 helped with that. it is hard not to obsess.

snowpink sorry about the bitch. I do like to take the opportunity whilst definitely not pregnant to do all the things I wouldn't if I were: reckless horseriding (I always have a go on the scary horse when I'm on Hmm), drinking: massive piss up for DH's 40th last weekend and buying clothes that will definitely not fit past 16 weeks or so (my fave skinny jeans have just ripped so i've been to New Look today. Cheers me up anyway.

mrspuddle I wish I had the will power. I'd love to lose half a stone (but I know that it'll fall off if I get pg due to morning sickness). I should probably get on the folic acid too, and the B6 as I mentioned above (it's also meant to help with your mood, which I definitely need), and the vitamin D. The pregnacare really did not agree with me, so I got into the habit of taking lots of supplements instead. During my last pregnancy I was rattling with vit c and d, calcium, galfer (ferrous fumarate, better for my bum than iron tablets), omega 3, baby aspirin, omeprazole.

max seriously, sign up to the VIP membership at fertility friend. You can chart every single symptom and obsess and compare with previous months. it's great. I'm just using up the last of my membership left after getting pg with DS2, then I will renew. I looooooove it.

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snowpink · 23/01/2014 16:29

AF arrived yesterday so I'm out for this cycle. Welcome Teresa and sorry about your mmc. I had an early mc in nov and my cycles are also very wonky but thankfully on the shorter side at least.

Cakecrumbsinmybra · 23/01/2014 09:48

Sorry to hear that Teresa.

Just realised that we have people staying (again) when I'm going to be OVing - ARGH!!

mrspuddleduckie · 23/01/2014 09:42

ps. Hi Teresa - so sorry to hear of your MMC, hopefully you'll have some happy news very soon. It's hard not to obsess about it, I'm familiar with that - keep busy and then you'll only dwell on it as you go to sleep (has kept me sane so far)

mrspuddleduckie · 23/01/2014 09:40

Just checking in - sorry about AF bonzo - hope you're feeling a bit better a few days on

I'm a week into a new diet (nothing fancy, just 1600 cal a day limit) as I figured I'd try and lose a few pounds before pregnancy to make the weight gain a bit more subtle third time round.

I am so so hungry, and therefore feeling quite grumpy. Have been a bit of a shouty mum last week :( hoping this week will be a bit easier

TTC from April, so was thinking about starting my folic acid this week - does that sound about right?

Hope to hear of some more BFPs from you all soon

TeresaGreene · 22/01/2014 19:33

Hi there, please can I join?! We've been ttc #3 since Jan 2013 and I fell pregnant in September but had a mmc in November at 12 weeks. My periods since my miscarriage have been irregular which is really worrying me. However, I realise I was very lucky to conceive my DS (8) and my DD (3) practically straight away. I am trying not to obsess about it, but its really hard when most of my friends are currently pregnant or have gorgeous babies!

MolotovCocktail · 22/01/2014 16:47

It doesn't help that I know a few women who have recently given birth - 3 in the last month and one good friend 7 months ago.

DH also keeps saying 'when can we have another?' and 'we have 2, we might as well have 3!' Smile

I'm pretty sure that I don't want to become pg before dd2 turns 2yo. I haven't become pg quickly or particularly easily, especially with dd2 before ... but surely thoughts like this must mean that I'm maybe not 'done' yet?

All I know is that I was desparate for both dds. This time I don't feel desparate (yet, anyway), and that's confusing for me. I don't know if I really want another baby, or like the idea of having another baby, iyswim.

I do go rather gooey over all these new babies Smile

maxpower · 21/01/2014 20:03

Ok I'm already losing the plot. I'm talking myself into pregnancy symptoms with at least another 2 weeks til af due. Good thing my job is mad busy as that provides a distraction at least. Genuinely my uterus is achy (result of a emcs with dd) but I honestly can't say if it normally aches during this part of my cycle as I'm crap at noticing/remembering stuff like that. Hence the reading into everything. I may need a good talking to!

maxpower · 20/01/2014 21:36

Dh is on nights now so that's that for this month. Fingers crossed.

snowpink · 20/01/2014 17:10

Sorry bonzo! I'll probably join you on Friday when my AF is due, I'm already getting the pms spots. Lovely.

redspottydress · 19/01/2014 21:50

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MolotovCocktail · 19/01/2014 20:24

I think the best advice I learned when ttc dd2 is to wait 10 days past the day that AF was due. That saved me a lot of time with wasted tests and the heartbreak of negatives.

* That comment is general and not directed at anyone, btw *

I meanwhile am feeling very conflicted. The house we are in just about accommodates the 4 of us. I think I can just about handle 2 children yet the thought of just one more is at the back of my mind.

We would definitely need to move house, which is do-able but still an upheaval; I like my body as it is and it would need to recover from anoher pg and ELCS ... I'd need to conceive in the first place.

But I like the idea of pregnancy again, especially if it just happened. I'm torn between 'two's company' and 'three is the magic number'. I'm worried about affecting the dynamic we have. I'm worried about having another ELCS. I'm worried my body won't recover after a 3rd pg/2nd ELCS. But when I see a young baby I go gooey: would it be good to give my two girls another sibling to dote upon?

I'm definitely using my head more than my heart this time, but I suppose I should as we already have 2 very wanted, utterly perfect children.

I would like dd2 to be at nursery (or fast approaching) as I loved having just that time with the baby last time. I have from about summer to winter to make up my mind as to whether I would like a 3rd (I'm too aware of cycles for any pg to be accidental) ...

Gosh, sorry for the Sunday ramble! It does help to clear my head, though, as DH is clear he would like another, whereas I am on the fence.

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