The Elderberry Pavlovas: still chasing that 'copter in the hope of a festive BFP. Thread 16 (the one where Happy was left in charge!!)

Happy So are you going to share with the rest of us what it is or do I need to go on that thread you've just told me you shouldn't have read?!?

Pip I did think to myself the other day that if when I get another bfp I'm going to struggle to relax about it, and actually even if I have a scan it's only going to reassure me for that day hour, it could potentially all go wrong the very next day and I wouldn't even know. I guess that's why they say early scans don't necessarily help.
When in Dec is your IVF? Will you be going through it all over Christmas or will you know in time to either enjoy the mulled wine or have a lovely Christmas bfp? (I've got a feeling in my bones you won't be enjoying any wine this xmas ).

rp you can drive yourself insane over-analysing if/when you Ov'd. Forget about it and start symptom spotting instead .

She was told that a scan wouldn't who much. I know that the test wouldn't prove much but it put her mind at rest.

pip at 9 weeks, even if she had lost the baby she'd still have hormones in her system for a while so could get a positive anyway. Sure she's just being irrational (because I do it every other day) but she could fork out for an early scan to put her mind at rest? X

Oh, and an interesting thing about cheap HPTs.

The TA I work with is currently about 9 weeks pg, she is very anxious about it as she had a loss with her first pregnancy. She said to me that she was worried that she had lost the baby. She had no reason to think this but had suddenly decided this was the case. I suggested that she bought a pregnancy test to double check. If the line was faint then she was right to worry. So she didn't want to buy and expensive test and went to B & M and got a cheapy. Came back negative!! She panicked and bought a Clearblue which came back very positive!

Evening ladies.
What news?
Congratulations Feathers

No real news here. I think I ov'd yesterday or today and I had loads of EWCM this week and today is day 15. We tried to DTD last night but our bed is really noisy and it completely put DH off.
Next round of IVF should start in the middle of December so this is my last chance to do it naturally before the next round.

I'm also off to the theatre - what a cultured lot we are!

Hope they can manage your thrombophilia Funky in the future and that it doesn't have any impact on TTC.

Received letter this evening to say that my fibroid op has been pushed back to Dec 9 now. Have mixed feelings about this as the new date is better in terms of when the op will happen in my cycle and work is crazy at the moment so don't have to worry about taking time off so soon. On the negative side the FC said we should wait 3 months between op and IVF which now puts me even closer to March.

I'll tell DH that he'd better saddle up pronto as this month is now back on! Fortunately I haven't OV'd yet, would be pretty cross if I had.

Hello all! How are you all doing today? I'm just at that weird stage of the 2ww where it's about 6dpo so I have ages left before AF but also can't really symptom spot yet. Which is good because I have no symptoms.

Merk - yes, I see what you mean. Never mind. Basically, whether I OV on Friday or Sunday is kind of out of my control now so I'll stop banging on about it!!!

Off to the theatre tonight........

Great news Kitty!

Hope you had a lovely hols bunny!

Gill, thtombophilia is where your blood clots too much. Some types are more risky in pregnancy than others. Can cause recurrent miscarriages (I've had one. They usually only test after 3 but this was my 'dh and I work for the NHS perk'), loss in later stages of pregnancy, still births, risk of clots to myself... Will need to take blood thinners from a positive test, but that's all they told me so far (they didn't even know dose when I asked). Tomorrow I will have been waiting 2 weeks for them to give me more information.

RP it won't change anything if you take that temp away because it will still assume ov was your lowest temp (fri). My point was that I think sun would/should have been your lowest temp but you took it late hence it being higher. If you make the Sunday temp the same/slightly lower than the Friday temp then I think your O will change. I'm pretty certain your sun temp would have been low if taken at the same time as the others

Tried it and still has me OV on Friday. Boo hiss. I don't believe it!

Also good fo you Bunny!!

Yay Kitty! How exciting!

Merk I think you're right. But Lady surely that is cheating?! will try it tout suite!

Yes I imagine it must feel hard to fully believe.... Fc!

That's great news, Kitty!

Hi guys! Thanks for kind thoughts (all apart from one rl friend (inc my mum) forgot! Yes, everything went well. Turns out I've worked with my doctor (she's a complete bitch to work with but a good doctor as I remember!)

barking this was only day one, small steps hon

boodle I still think you should pay for private monitoring this last cycle, if you can afford it. Well, that's what I was going to do but never got around to it. X

Berriessssssssss I'm home!

barking sorry you had a bad day, it really is crappy sometimes isn't it Hun x

Well got back tonight and opened all our post, usual crap and a wedding save the date card and..... a letter from FC about getting the ivf ball rolling! Haven't read it yet, lots of info and forms that I can't get my head round now! Very surprised to get stuff so soon!

RP if you discard the temperature on the 27th does it change your O day to Sunday?

RP technically yes, but doesn't feel it. I think I'll just consider myself PUPO until the next blood test.
Kitty really hoping the scan went well today x

Boodle I'm lucky in that until this summer my social group were pretty much childless, with only two exceptions. One friend has a 4 and 6 year old, but I'm very close to them and they were both born before a started ttc so it's only difficult on occasion when she laments something she can't do because of the kids and I want to throttle her.... The other friend has a toddler that was born a few months before we started ttc but she had her share of problems (including an ectopic pg and a mc) so again, that's only difficult when she tries to make me feel better by saying 'at least you don't have to deal with.....'

But in the last couple of years since we started trying, the majority of our local friends have got married (I can't tell you how many bloody weddings!) and four couples are now pg or with new borns and I know there are others trying. If I avoid all of them I won't have many friends left.... And also, I'd love to think some of their gorgeous baby stuff could head our way when we are the ones with a newborn . Ha ha!

Oh, Kitty! Hope the scan went OK?

Barking, I'm so sorry it was a difficult day for you. I admire you just for going. I have spent the last 2 years avoiding pretty much everyone who has had a baby since I started TTC. You are very brave just to go at all.

Next time a visit is discussed, be very busy with school work...

Hope the scan was good kitty.

Well I visited the twins. What I didn't know was that grandparents (on the Dad's side) were staying this week, and he was home as well! Thought it would just be Mum home with the twins.... Anyway, I did ok for the first minute then walked into the kitchen and burst into tears. Pretty much held it together after the initial outburst but it wasn't easy. She was lovely though, she understood it had been difficult for me to visit. Didn't hold either of them as they were asleep and didn't wake while I was there. The thing is, I thought it was going to be ok once I got there, that I was building it up to be worse than it might be. But it really wasn't 'ok' and I'm no more looking forward to a repeat visit as I was to this one. . It's not exactly given me the confidence to tackle the next step of seeing pg-with-same-size-bump, given she's really not one for employing empathy.

Good luck today kitty

Gil Glad to hear things are moving for you and there is a plan in place now. Hope you're feeling okay with it all.

Hello to everyone else.

Funky, what is thrombophilia and are there any effects on TTC?

Rp FF is just confused by your open circle temp on Sun. I bet that temp is slightly higher than it should be because you took it later and hence FF confusion. I think you Od Sunday