The Elderberry Pavlovas: still chasing that 'copter in the hope of a festive BFP. Thread 16 (the one where Happy was left in charge!!)

Rest well sid

Well I survived. The only saving grace was that the consultant was borderline campy and very funny and chatty so although it was awkward and rather painful, it wasn't as bad as it could've been. One promising thing, he said there's been a study of women with fertility problems who also had polyps, whereby half the pool of women went on for IVF without having had their polyps removed, and the other half had them removed and then went on to IVF. The "removers" group had a statistically significant higher rate of success with IVF, so the supposition is that polyps might emit some sort of chemical or hormone which changes the womb to be not as hospitable to pregnancy as it would otherwise be.

Could be complete bunk but I'll cling to anything that makes me feel like I'm solving whatever our problem is.

Achy and sore and will be bleeding for a few days but I'm so glad it's over. Early night for me x

Thanks all. Yeah, I knew I wasn't pg - but how weird is that, a 15d LP after a 10/11day one the month before....

Anyhow, resetting the clocks for CD1!

Oh RP that's crap

Sid how did op go?

How is everyone else?

Pip - 38 - TTC since April 2011 - about to start second IVF cycle - AF due 23rd Nov
Charmingcats - 32 - TTC since August 2012. 2ww of 1st cycle of clomid. PCOS & acne (grrr).
Birdy - 30 - TTC 25 cycles, will be starting IVF (ICSI) in the new year (one cycle on NHS, so praying I get lucky first time!)
Barkingtreefrog - 34 - ttc since January 2012, mc Sept '13 after clomid bfp. AF awol post mc, FC supplied Provera so now on Clomid cycle 2.
Boodle - 30 - TTC 29 cycles. 1st appointment to IVF clinic is imminent. Chances to ironi-diff and dwindling rapidly.
Happylass - 35- 13 cycles of TTC under my belt. Currently taking a break for wedding purposes. Patiently waiting for 2nd FC appointment when I will finally get to see the consultant.
Bunny - 33 -TTC since June 2012, PCO, ICSI should start in the new year.
Sidney - 38 - TTC since July 2012, unexplained, private FC appt Dec with a view to starting IVF in Jan.
Feather, TTC since Sept 2011, six rounds of clomid, ectopic in November 13. Not sure what's next.

Sorry AF got you RP
Thinking of you sid shame there is not some sort of award for the best kept [ahem] lawn?? the amount of viewings they get! Hope it goes ok and you get some rest after, cosy in with duvet and film on sofa perhaps?

Back at work yesterday, was so tired after I was really sick in the evening (burst loads of blood vessels on my face too ) and then had a migraine which kept me up till after 3. Worst one I have had in ages, was actually groaning out loud at times. Made it to work for 10 today but left by 2.30, In bed now. Off tomorrow thank god.

Hope today went ok for you barking

Good luck today sid. Thinking of you.

rp sorry af got you. Man, I hate her.

Hope everyone else is well. Could someone pls add me to the list? Am on my phone as usual.

Feather, TTC since Sept 2011, six rounds of clomid, ectopic in November 13. Not sure what's next.

RP really sorry. Being late is just cruel. By the way, how great are mooncups, right? I started using one several months ago and it's the only good thing about AF showing up. Although sometimes I wonder if seeing exactly what's being discharged is a good thing...easy to wonder if a period really is a period, or something else - especially when you're a bit late

barking hope today is better for you; bunny's right, time for an emergency wine & eggs run to the shops!

Foody at the Berry bar can I please be the one who puts the umbrellas in the fruity drinks? Loving the suggestion; the main reason being that babies are not allowed in bars and we'll all soon forget this TTC crap bag!!

Exciting day for me ahead, not. Polypectomy going through since AF seems to have gone so spare me a thought at about 3pm. God I am tired of spreading my knees for randoms and pretending that what they're doing isn't bothering me mentally or physically...

sorry RP You knew it was coming but we couldn't help getting all hopeful for you! Good at least that your LP's are longer now!

AF :(

lets all go to Thailand and buy a bar!

Its all a pretty similar set up in nursing boodle I have all my supervisions to do for those I manage and sort my own out too. They keep wittering on about performance related pay but the supervision/pdp structure is pants and not robust enough for them to be able to enforce not giving people due pay rises. Yet.

Time to set up some kind of Berry business venture so we can all pack in our jobs?! Yes?

Oh Barking, not a good day at all! I hope your pupil progress meeting isn't a raking over the coals. I'm dreading this week as I've got to do them for the people I line manage at school. I know that sounds silly, but I still have my own to go through too and I hate making other people feel like shit! Teaching is so hard at the moment and I just don't see it getting better with all this performance-based pay coming in. I have a friend who has been told that her target is for all children to make outstanding progress. If her overall average isn't outstanding, she fails performance management. Ridiculous, much?

RP weird cycles just mess with your head! It ain't over till the witch arrives though :-)

barking hope you get some sleep Hun!

Oh barking what a shitty day
Only thing i can recommend is stopping at a shop on the way home tomorrow to buy chocolate brownies or similar and red wine.

Hope your meetings go ok,(((hugs)))

Much needed rant alert

Well I just dtd for the first time in our second Clomid cycle. Dtd for ttc sucks. Had a very stressful day at work, even more than usual, didn't go for a run then felt like I should have done, wanted chocolate brownies and red wine and we didn't have enough eggs for brownies or any red wine. Called the bank who keep not making payments to my mortgage and went round in ever useless circles. It gets bounced back into my account, which is incredibly annoying as the bank blames the mortgage company and the mortgage company blames the bank. Which would be predictable, but they're both the same bloody company!!! Just different departments blaming each other while I pay an hour of my time and phone bill to get precisely nowhere!!!
So yes, not particularly in the mood for dtd and too early to be any use if I don't ov until cd19-22 sometime as usual, but must try and cover all bases!
Now humphed off to sleep in the spare room as he's hogged the ipad again and I'm too stressed to spend the night being kept awake by him watching tv on the ipad in bed next to me (he uses headphones but the flickering light of the screen doesn't help me get to sleep).

I would say tomorrow has to be a better day but it's pupil progress meetings all morning so I'm going to spend the morning being quizzed about why x hasn't made 4 sub levels progress in a year and why I can't get y to a 2b even though he's having lots of interventions. I'm really not loving teaching right now.

Right, with that rant off my chest I might actually be able to sleep!! night night berries!

The thing is I think it is too late to be implantation and probs also too much stuff, but normally with me it's like a bit of blood and then bam, AF is properly here.

Anywhoooo fairly sure I'm just having a weird cycle.

Good luck to all the ivf people! It is such a big thing but I'm glad stuff is moving for you all. Waiting is the worst!

I love the phrase ICSI pixie!!!

Oooh, sorry RP but the suspense is killing me! Must be excruciating for you, trying to not get your hopes up! FX!!!

Yay for all the IVF/ICSI ladies! FX for 2014 IVF babies and ICSI pixies!

Hope you do get answers MrsW, their logic confuses me too!

And hope you get your appt Sid!

That's interesting rp
I await further developments .

Hmmm, so AF isn't actually here yet. I'm sure it will be tomorrow, but.... tmi warning for anyone not interested in my knicker contents

I popped a mooncup in last night when I first noticed a tiny it of spotting. I forgot about it and wore it all night and all day and tonight there was just a very small amount of oldish brown blood in it but no proper AF.

So I am guessing that doesn't count as AF? So I am actually on 15dpo or 17dpo if you believe FF.

Fairly sure it will arrive in force overnight but this has never happened before afaicr.

Pip Yep I think short is 4ish weeks with the long one 6ish, because of my PCO they recommend short because they don't wanna overstim everything. Thanks for advice, will def take a day or two off.

It's all very odd thinking about all this when I probably won't be able to start till Jan grrrrrrr

Wow that is short Bunny.
Not wanting to scare you but I found egg collection took it out of me. Be sure to book the following day off at least.

Evening all, good Monday?

I felt so sick this morning, a little stressed about work which makes my IBS flare up. Spoke to my manager though so getting some help now, just wanna get up to date as my colleague who I work with is having an op and 3/4 weeks off in jan feb time and I am stressed as it will probably clash with my ivf stress!!! (Only my big boss knows, not my manager or anybody at work)

sid I had my lap/hyst on CD3 so AF hadn't quite left the building and it was fine, guess it depends on surgeon though

Pip mine is short protocol, jabs start day 2, they start scanning from day 9, eggs usually ready around day 14 apparently and then it all happens