The Elderberry Pavlovas: still chasing that 'copter in the hope of a festive BFP. Thread 16 (the one where Happy was left in charge!!)

charming Whoop!!!!!!
Score for the clomid!!!!

Me next please .

feather everything you said rings very true, I felt exactly the same after my mc. And just as everyone said to me on the mc boards, it gets better and life takes back over, but then you suddenly get a hit out of the blue and feel overwhelmed, which is what happened to me yesterday.

How lovely of your DP, hope you manage to enjoy each other's company and get a good break .

charming congratulations! That's wonderful hope-filling news!

mrsW sorry to hear about the Cp. Man, life is just so nutty and tough. I have everything crossed for you next round. Be kind to yourself now.

barking, blue and aquarius thanks for the lovely words. I have to say, she was very kind about it. Still very early on for her - maybe 9 weeks? - but she wanted to tell me in advance so it wasn't a shock down the line. We work closely together so she's one of the two people at work that know about my EP. I'm happy for her but heartbroken for myself and DP. I dunno. I just feel so removed from myself right now (does that even make sense?) and unsure about the future in terms of ttc. What do I do next? What if it happens again? Can I even trust my own body? It's been a really tough few weeks, and for most of it it's felt like I've been underwater: seeing, but not feeling what's been going on. I feel thankful that it all 'resolved itself' but angry and sad and scared and empty. I've had to hide away from MN and have drowned my sorrows in a fair bit of - probably not the smartest of moves.

I shouldn't complain. DP called my boss secretly last week and got me off work for a few days from tomorrow. He's taking me to Italy to cheer us up and think of something else. I do wish my colleague had told me next week so I could just get lost in the trip a bit but ah well, you can't control these things.

I can't really believe that we all have to go through this, whatever shape our ttc journeys are taking. But I do know this: you're the strongest women I have 'met' and your kindness and encouragement has been really important to me. So thank you. I hope we all get what we wish for soon

Anyway, onwards! I can't wallow otherwise I'll crumble. xxx

Ps. Sorry about the long 'me me me-ness' of this post.

Whoop whoop charming FABULOUS news Welcome to the dark side

Oh wow charming that's great news!

mrsw so sorry to hear your news - hope you can get at least a little encouragement from the consultant's words

feather poor thing hope the rest of your afternoon went quickly. I know that "wind knocked out of you" feeling- it's so cruel.

the clomid worked......BFP!

Not sure about tearing after birth, think the smash one out was more a bloke's take on it. Like high five! FFS.
mrsw sorry for you. Hope you're taking care of yourself.
feather was that woman being deliberately insensitive? Or was she telling you on your own so you didn't find out from someone else?

feather I'm so sorry, I know exactly how it feels to have the breath knocked out of you with news like that. I'm still avoiding the friend that is due the week before I would have been. Don't stay away if it helps to pour it all out in a post, I've done way than my fair share of sad/ranting posts recently!

mrsw that's rubbish. Nothing I can say so have some and .

Sorry MrsW I had one the first month of TTC (almost four years ago now!) I remember feeling and just knowing I was pg but then got really heavy bright red bleeding a few days earlier than AF would have been due. Doctor didn't even seem to believe me. It's not nice Hope you feel better soon and that your cycle isn't messed up at all after this

Barking and Charming I feel your pain - more so now than ever I have - wife of my DH's best friend had her baby yesterday. Not a surprise obviously and they have been through the FC mill to get her so I should be happy and thinking there is hope!

But on Monday I woke up and, on moving, figured AF had arrived dramatically and early. Suspected, feared it was worse because I would've been in an early PIMPing position by today. Confirmed by doctor on phone just now - I called to ask about blood tests and he took the call instead of the nurse because he thought he knew why I was calling. Chemical pregnancy

I am to 'look on the bright side' though because this means I did ovulate. So that's alright then

Sorry for the me, me, me vent

Aah Feather so sorry you have to deal with that too now :'( She must be pretty early on still, did she tell you before anyone else? Hope she is being sensitive about it all.

Barking sorry about the bump news for you too! Seems like you have a good DTD strategy anyway, FX the clomid does the trick again soon!

RP don't know much about nutrition and stuff, but I think the iron in meat (heme iron) is more easily absorbed than nonheme iron, and think that iron is important in TTC, or at least it is when you are pg.

Hi all,
I've not been on here for a while so need to catch up on the thread. Not been wanting to be here all sad etc. feeling ok, but have just had the wind knocked out of me. Colleague/friend who knew about the ectopic has just told me she's pregnant. She is due the week before I would have been. I'm so sad. It's just not fair. I just needed to share the news as I can't breath right now. And I'm stuck at my desk.
Hope everyone is ok. Will catch up on the thread later.
xxx :'(

"Smashing one out?" Perhaps her vagina looked like a car crash afterwards. The third and fourth degree tears do look awful, it's amazing how they manage to stitch them back together. Sorry, hating the woman and I don't even know her!

Charming waitwaitwait - your AF is later than normal, yes? You have sore boobs? Erm poas?!

Braking that is super insensitive. So sorry. Life is just not fair DSis3 thinks she may be infertile, but her bf has 5 DC, three of which she conceived by mistake whilst using contraception. It is just shit, isn't it.

Random q - I am thinking of starting to eat meat again. Does anyone know if this will have an effect on ttc?

charming as if you remember! No bump as yet but if once i do, it doesn't get any attention off her we're going to have words!!!!

Still on cloud 9 over my friend! She was actually meant to be going to an adoption night in a few weeks as well as she was convinced ivf wouldn't work

Eurgh Aquarius, if it's ever possible, hope AF is considerate about her arrival. Or obviously that she doesn't appear at all!!

It really sucks doesn't it charming?
Personally I'd want to wait until I was late to pimp (although given my luteal phase is generally 8 to 9 days that means I've pimped before 14dpo many times!), but each to their own! Might not be too early for a bfp if there's one brewing .

Hi all

"Smashing another one out"?? FFS!!!

We had a run of births at our office recently and lots of pics of new borns which I had to delete immediately. And then there's the flipping collection- somehow i just didnt feel that enthusiastic about congratulating all the people who can "smash one out" but you just have to join in or you look really tight

Boo to the diffed wedding cancellers- so not a nice thing to have to hear but at least no bumps at wedding.

V nervous about my AF arriving this month (have pretty much given up hoping for spontaneous bfp now) - its due sometime towards end of week when i have very important work stuff on and i just know it'll have arrive in the middle of it all just want to get my Lap op done ASAP so they can get rid of the endometriosis

barking I feel your pain. 2 births over the weekend and 2 pg announcement on one email chain today. Both instadiffers - one honeymoon, other new relationship. Announcements made by the menfolk, so rather insensitive and self congratulatory. I quote ' I'm very proud of my little chap'. Ergh! This is the same group of friends where a pg was announced by the bloke a few months ago via another email chain with the words 'wife will be smashing another one out'. I know blokes are different, but really?
blind that's a great story. Curious...does your cat pay you more attention now like she did with your diffed mate?
12 dpo. Too early to pimp? This is my first clomid cycle & was monitored. Def ovulated, the dominant folly disappeared! It was a day earlier than fc had thought it would be, he thought I'd need a trigger, but it had already happened by the third scan. Had dtd the night before, but not before, as he'd said it would have been too early...hey ho.
Gonna give the clomid two more cycles, but doubling to 100mg. Then it's injections.

Wow kitty that is fab for your friend! There is hope for us all then!

Blue that's crappy, can't you change your mind and get drunk too?

Barking rant away my lovely, that's shite! I cannot believe they didn't consider your feelings when they sent the e-mail.

How is everyone? Any goss?

Can I please take back yesterday's rant? I want to be pg NOW. I came home to two emails from two different women, both saying they could no longer come to our wedding because they were pregnant. .
The first woman is due a couple of weeks after our wedding. I immediately counted back and realised that the last time we saw them must have been the month they got pg. They had said at the time they were ttc but were both still drinking and smoking heavily (literally chain smoking, I ended up spending most of the evening outside as they wouldn't go inside as they couldn't smoke) while I cradled my one glass of wine all night Why is life so bloody unfair? Also, just to add insult to injury, we'd had the ttc conversation with them, they knew we'd already been trying ages at that point, but there was no consideration of this in the 'sorry I can't make your wedding but good news - I'm pg!' email. Grr. .

Sorry, had to get that off my chest. Feeling very emotional about it. Although I'm also glad that the bumps won't be at the wedding, so there's a bright side I suppose.

birdy The research is very mixed. There is no problem with DP's side of things at all so we don't have to consider that. If we aim for every day we'll probably hit somewhere between EOD and ED. The sperm meets egg plan suggests EOD through the cycle then 3 days in a row after a +opk. In the clomid cycle that got us the bfp we managed every other day with 1101101 in shag week. So basically 5/7 days in shag week. Worked last time so we're applying the same strategy!

Ah Kitty that is such good news

Bunny our Christmas party was planned ages ago and for some reason I thought I may be pg by then, so told everyone i'd be driving so I could get away with not drinking. Anyway I won't be pg but have now been roped into giving lifts for others grr

Barking isn't it better to DTD every other day? I've heard if SA shows low count then it is better to have 2 or even 3 days worth 'in stock' but also that if motility if a problem then no more than 2 days between DTD... but then if your DF has healthy little swimmers then it is probably fine so just ignore me!!

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Guys! Just GOT to tell you something! Some if you may remember my friend who I've been desperate to join the berries as she's been having such an awful time ttc.

Anyway after 3 years ttc, meant to be starting ivf about feb. her consultant wanted to try one last thing (letrozole and prog pessaries) and she's just got her BFP!!! Know you guys don't know her but wanted to tell you, especially those with very short cycles as this has been her pr