The Brookers will get their BFP's by any means necessary, thats the definition of Brooking No Argument!

Oh no Beedle. I am still very hopeful for you as those internet cheapies are notoriously rubbish. How are you feeling? Have you had any symptoms? I hope you cold has gone x

So I chickened out of doing a proper test this morning and just used an IC, which was unsurprisingly negative (even under bright light). I'm telling myself its only 13dpec so there is still time but at least this gives me an idea that it might not have worked I haven't told mrb as he's still sleeping, I'll let him have some hope for a bit longer. I will probably now wait until Thursday to test again.

Just a quick one from me as I'm in the Lake District with rubbish internet. Just wanted to do some virtual hand holding for Beedle. Tbh I would be tempted to test tomorrow and I think it's a good idea to speak to your boss. I totally get the wishing someone could test for you in secret!
I'm brooking like mad for a BFP xxxx

Just a quick one from me as I'm in the Lake District with rubbish internet. Just wanted to do some virtual hand holding for Beedle. Tbh I would be tempted to test tomorrow and I think it's a good idea to speak to your boss. I totally get the wishing someone could test for you in secret!
I'm brooking like mad for a BFP xxxx

Hi all! Am visiting family this weekend so only lurking.... but I'm with the crowd Beedle- you should test tomorrow. We'll all be here for hand holding...

Ooh stacks, I like your thinking

Oh Beedle that's exactly how I felt too. The waiting was sheer agony, i just wanted to know. I say do the test tomorrow. I would love to do the test for you

Geek hope you have an amazing time with boo.

Fox you won't have to go private. How long have you been TTC? I know it massively depends on your PCT and their policies, but most GPS are willing to refer on after 12 months. Just book another appointment with your GP to discuss the next steps. They will most likely send you for scans and an HSG, then take it from there. If they find nothing from that, then it may well be another couple of years before IVF, but you may not need the IVF. I would t start thinking about going private until you really need to x

Thanks all. I think that's it Beedle - I'm just fed up of waiting. To use science to speed things up I guess I'd have to go private? But I think that's what I'd like to do.

Beedle hope you manage to sort something with work so you and MrB can test together before Thursday evening. Keeping everything crossed for you!

Have a great time today Geek!

Fox it's brilliant news that all your tests have come back, but rubbish that you still don't have any answers. On the plus side, every month could be your month and I'm brooking no argument that your time is very soon.

Beedle you have put it so perfectly, that is exactly how I felt. If you were to tell someone at work, and not go to the conference, would that mean you and mrb would be together to test? I have got everything crossed for you lovely xxx

Booooo looking forward to next week :D

fox don't feel bad about having nothing wrong, hopefully it will only be a matter of time for you. But at the same time I don't think there was anything really wrong with keep so don't feel that you don't need treatment. There's nothing wrong with using science to speed things up :o

geek hope it all goes well today, good thing you didn't steal twinks, it would have been rather hard to explain to MrG's son :o

I'm having a dilemma about testing, obviously I want to know if I am pregnant but at the same time I don't want to know if I'm not. So I'm too scared to test tomorrow with a FRER (13dpec) but if I don't I'll probably have to wait until Thursday evening - which is ages away. I'm considering telling my boss what is going on (a bit late I know) so that I can get out of the conference that I should be going to on Wed/Thu. I can't really call in sick (even though I'm still actually feeling rather coldy and rubbish) because I called in sick for EC. What I need is for someone to secretly do a test for me and then just tell me if its good news (it needs to be done secretly otherwise I'll know its bad news if they don't say anything.

Have a good weekend everyone

Great news fox, its just a matter of time x

I'm so pleased you had a nice time Geek!

Fox I am over the moon that the results are good!! You're not being insensitive at all!! It's brilliant news

Sorry, just realised that probably sounds insensitive to those who do have problems. Of course I'm grateful that we've both been given the all clear

Hope everyone's had a good day! So glad it's Friday (even though I'm working Sunday)

Well MrF called the gp today and his results were in - the receptionist said the results are normal! But to get exact details he needs to call next week and have a telephone appointment with the gp. Great news we're both ok, but feeling a bit that we haven't had our bfp yet.

Sorry, not sorry, so I meant so glad you had a good time

Sorry glad you had a good time, can't wait for our turn she's lovely is our Sparks!

I just wanted to pop on and say I had the most amazing time with Sparks today, and twinks is truly gorgeous (the temptation to snaffle him out of the baby carrier as you were leaving was enormous )

Overuse of the word just... Just need some more sleep ;)

Oh, and happy Halloween to all (if you celebrate it, unlike us who turn off the lights and avoid the trick or treaters)

I'm back, but just feeling exhausted so I'm not going to manage to post much. I'm in London visiting family just now, just home from Central London and a 2 hour traffic jam with a shouting baby. Just wanted to let you all know I'm thinking of you.

So sorry to hear of those feeling down just now, you're all doing amazingly well in such difficult circumstances. It's hard to keep positive, but that's what we're here for, to tell you good things can happen, and that they will happen for you. {hugs}

Early-pregnancy-symptom-cold, you say? I have just started feeling v sneezy - you know that constant feeling that you have to sneeze?

Stick, embies, stick! Go Beedle2! Beedle, glad you're feeling a bit more positive and hope that you accidentally pee on a stick on the 4th

Scarlett and Cups, {{{hugs}}} You are both such amazing people - you've been through so much and you're so brave through such crushing disappointments. I really admire you both. I am Brooking that you get there soon, by whatever means it takes. Oh and Cups, I don't think you ever get over something like a miscarriage, so don't feel bad that it's still something you relive. I think traumatic events have a lasting effect and are never really 'sorted' as in you're never going to feel sad/cry over that thing ever again. They do lose their immediacy, though, and the pain comes less frequently and you get more used to dealing with it when it does come. So don't beat yourself up for feeling sad.

Keep, hurray for finishing work! 36 weeks, wow!

good luck for Saturday geek I'm sure MrG's son will like you, we do and we're never wrong

maybe thanks for the squeeze!

scarlett scary about the dental problems, I knew that pregnancy can be bad for your teeth but not fertility treatment. Is it a specific drug that's the problem or is it stimming/downregging in general taht's the problem?

Mentally I'm feeling much better today, but physically I'm starting to feel a bit rubbish. I'm hoping its the fabled early-pregnancy-symptom-cold but I think its more likely that I just have a cold. Luckily I've nearly finished for today and tomorrow is a half day. So its almost next week already (tries to ignore that it is still in fact 1 week until I'm supposed to test)

I've been quite busy so you've all dropped off my threads. Its far too early to think clearly just now, so going to keep this short and read back and post again later.

Wow the thread has been busy today!

Thanks Too! I think a bfp is very unlikely this month considering its cd 11, MrF has a cold, and we've not dtd so far this cycle But you never know! [wwink]

cups thanks for the reassurance about my results. I'm in a similar situation with my dad too. I'm glad your friend was sensitive to your feelings, but it's always going to be difficult to hear that kind of news. And of course it doesn't mean you're a bad friend at all! Just for you to recognise that she was being sensitive and to be happy for them shows what a lovely friend you are . I think we would look at adoption /surrogacy if it came to it too. It makes me sad to think there's a possibility we might not be able to conceive, and I'm not sure I would feel complete in life without a child in some ways.

Glad the computers got sorted beedle and brooking for you that the next week flys by! It must feel like such a long wait.

Well done for looking on the positive side scarlett. Ivf sounds so draining . I had no idea about the dental problems either I don't have very good teeth anyway so they probably wouldn't survive the fertility treatment!

Hope your hair is sorted now geek Will be thinking of you on Saturday. I'm sure it'll be great. I hate meeting any new people too so know how you feel in that respect.

Thanks everyone, I'm sure my friend will be very sensitive about it. It's just I know how excited all of our friends will be for them. I guess that was making me feel guilty as I felt really jealous which is such an ugly emotion.

I have stopped individual counselling as I felt like we were just going over the same ground over and over. I have been going to group sessions with other women at my clinic which has been good.

Maybe no news at all on getting my treatment transferred, I'm going around in circles between the GP and the pct.

Beedle I remember that feeling. The second week was the longest of my life! Keep hanging in there, I'm brooking for the Beedle 2. I've got a good feeling about them.

Scarlett that is awful, god I had no idea. I must admit I'm a bit worried now as I've had a lot of dental work and have been told I have weak teeth. I know how you feel. I didn't even get out of bed yesterday, I just thought sod it all. I don't have any kids to get up for. I read a new book and cuddled up with my dog.

Geek I feel the same that I just have to keep going through all this treatment before I can move on. I've been reading up on adoption a lot lately, I just don't know if it's for me. I really want a baby, I want the whole experience. Realistically you are unlikely to get a child under a year old. I've even started looking at surrogacy.