The Elderberry Pavlovas- All aboard the Berrycopter. Thread 14

funkymonk elaborate on your evap and CM please. What kind of test? Don't rule yourself out over CM as that's a good 'symptom'. Spill the beans...

We miss the pg berries too! x

We let you in cos there's still a spare seat for each of you! And we miss you

tally sorry to hear you've been having a tough time. Hope the meds work x

Had a quick look on the helicopter thread, they let non berries in guess they aren't as strict as us lol

RP sorry to say I think you can get EWCM without O, however that doesn't mean you haven't O'd

Ugh people can say such insensitive things!

sid ugh you MIL sounds delightful!

spare nice rant!

So how are we all?

Although, as I'm on a TMI binge: I am not even sure if I have OV this month! No OPK+, but then I ran out of those so can't do any more. And no upwards jump in BBT.

But.....EWCM!

Can you get that without OV?

spare that is very annoying. I have a lovely, LOVELY colleague who knows we are trying. She has 2 DC and has put together a bag of baby clothes from them, for me! It is so kind but also a bit pressure-y.... I keep thinking of those tiny clothes gathering dust somewhere.

Yes, just relax indeed....

Normalpeople sex is actually quite polite compared to our lingo at home. I mean, ttc really is pretty much is like coupling large farmyard animals, isn't: lock them in the bedroom at the right time until they've done the business.

I may be the least romantic person ever, ever

Oh no Tally poor you. Hope that things start to improve for you soon. Thinking of you - take care

Hi berries!
You've been a busy lot in the last few days...

sid that sounds like a great FC you've found there... Can you share his name?

Nothing much to report other than I had lunch with my best mate yesterday and she told me that her and her DH start ivf next week. Her AF is due on Monday and then it is pin cushions a-hoy (and supositories... I hadn't heard about those before )

My app thinks I'll OV this Sunday, which is slightly inconvenient as we are at the in-laws from Friday onwards. Might need to practice stealth DTD for sunday morning!

Thunder I had to block another MN thread last week (something along the lines of 'how long did it take you to get pregnant') because it was full of 'oh well I was trying for 2 months, then went to a wedding a got drunk and DA DAR was pregnant. It was definitely because we were relaxed. Oh, and my friend was supposed to start IVF and a week before she got the appointment, she got pregnant, and that must be because she wasn't stressing about it'
FUCK. OFF.

Sorry, rant over!

Tally so sorry to hear this, you've really been through the mill I hope the steroids help turn things around

Hi all, just a quick hello, sid your mil sounds as wonderful as mine ;)

one of my most cringeworthy comments was my 88 year old grandma asking my OH "if I was carrying yet?"

CD 26 for me, & we're being good as OH & I have decided only to test if I'm late, (which I don't think is going to happen from the feelings down below, but its not over to the witch cackles ;) ) & acupuncturist is hoping to lengthen my cycle by a day or 2 back to what it was pre-the pill. Feeling much more relaxed this month so the diet & acu is helping, ttfn

Hi guys, just marking my place. Nightmare time - see copter thread for details. I'll be back later when I'm a bit better and have a charged phone.

thunder what a horrible thing for her to say.

Wow sid your mil comes out with some pretty insensitive comments. That must be tough to hear.

I've heard all sorts. Just relax is a common one along with the friend of a friend story about someone who just stopped trying and then wham they just got pregnant. My mate managed to include the 'it will happen to you' comment in her message from the womb. I mean I'm very confused as to how her unborn foetus knows that I'm going to get pregnant!! Sorry couldn't resist!

thunder unbelievable, 'make the most of it'??? there are no words. some people are just pathetically insensitive

I can't choose a "worst" thing that's ever been said to me, mainly bc I talk about TTC with very few people and even then, sometimes it's just an allusion to it rather than a full-on convo. MIL has a congenital case of foot-in-mouth disease and has said at various times, 'enjoy your child-free weekend,' tutted at the rubbishness of her DD's inlaws' egg/sperm quality which required 'shockingly expensive' IVF and implied that they were lesser beings for needing help, and just last week referred to an aunt of mine only having one 'real daughter'...their other one is adopted. She has a real knack for saying the most idiotic, stupidly hurtful things.

pip love thinking of you, sorry to hear about the wait. when is your review appointment?

RP ED must be so frustrating. I agree with the others; as long as he was inside you, you're good. I worry about leakage sometimes too but have yet to perfect my headstand so the best that happens at Bristowville is a folded pillow under my bum cannot wait to throw it out one day

How're all you teacher people holding up? I love this time of year!

My other worst one was being told (by a one night instadiffer) 'to make the most of it'

ie make the most of life without a baby. And this was shortly after my miscarriage.

Morning all!

Of course you can stay RP it's only from this thread that we'll be so strict And I don't think anything is TMI for us anymore!

pip your head teacher sounds nice, I bet some people have real trouble getting time off for appts. sorry RP

happy I was TTC less that 6months when the Berries formed, it has just kind of developed into long term tryers

Is it a bird, is it a plane, no its Superthunder hell yeah, you go girl! If somebody who knew we were struggling said something like that to me I would find it hard not to make a comment!

So apart from just relax, what are the worst things to say then?!? I reckon, it'll happen is pretty crappy (I get that from DH and it makes me wanna throttle him).

You're definitely my superhero thunder! It's amazing how she's conveniently forgotten how worried she was after only a few months. The 'just relax' comment is just so friggin annoying!

You're my superhero thunder. Instadiffers need to know how much saying stupid things like that makes a berry want to lunch them in the face. With a frying pan.

Hello berries,

I'm still here too.

sid and not sod as I keep inadvertently typing I'm glad the appointment was good and you had a consultant that you like and trust. So important!

pip 6 months sounds like a long time to wait although of course it could still happen in the meantime.

gill she gave your results to your DH and didn't even wait to see you??? That's terrible! I would be ringing up and having a word about that. And getting the full story.

Yep bunny I would have lunched her.

Actually I'm a bit ashamed to say this but I got really grumpy with a friend (quite distant friend really) over Skype yesterday. She was very openly getting frustrated when she got to cycle 3 without diffing, but was laughing at herself too. Then it worked that cycle and now she is 20 weeks. We were chatting about this and she asked about me and DP- she knows about my mmc last year. I'm not telling anyone that I got bfp for the moment so just made throwaway comment and she told us to JUST RELAX. I didn't handle it very graciously, lets just say that. And now I feel pretty bad. Trying to console myself with the thought that this might stop her from doing the same to another struggling lady - kind of like I'm actually a superhero in some way.....

Just marking a spot..I may be in the copter for now but I need to keep an eye on all the berries so I can hoist you aboard when necessary!

They need to let your body have 6 months to get back to normal before starting again, unless you are over 38, then it's 3 months.

I think that the 'no insterdiffers' came from some of the early short term Berries.

Gah . Missed the shuttle due to being engrossed in Bake Off and Don't Tell the Bride.
No Kitty I don't think we'll tell the FC we're on a break in case they make us go away and come back later! Technically we are still having unprotected sex just not at the right time of the month
Gill how annoying about the radiographer!Sounds like my DP though - only gets half the story!!
Pip how come no more IVF for 6 months?
Have to confess I was on my 1st cycle of TTC when I joined the Berries! Think most people were in the fairly early stages then though and if I'm not mistaken many of the original grads were pretty much instadiffers. How things change . Look forward to the anniversary party next month though Bunny

I see, must be rather un romantic.

• 'Darling I am ovulating and so we must have normal people sex'.
• 'Quick, to the bathroom cabinet and fetch the pills. Now we must sit and wait.'

As I said, so long as he was inside you at the time it should do the trick. Have you tried Conceive plus or Preseed?