The Elderberry Pavlovas- All aboard the Berrycopter. Thread 14

Yes bunny do tell us more!

Sorry it's taken me so long to come back on here and apologise to thunder for drawing so much attention to her special wee; I've been off sourcing stockists who can bottle the stuff up for us to pass around! sorry thunder couldn't resist!

rum exciting news on the forthcoming ivf. Fingers crossed for you.

I agree wholeheartedly on the try to relax comments too. I've been made to feel by fc that I'm the one causing the issues through not relaxing enough; no the high fsh, low progesterone isn't the issue it's me not being relaxed of course!

sid sorry to read you're feeling off. Hope it passes soon for you.

barking I know you mention you're off back to work tomorrow but see how you feel and take it easy. Don't push yourself too much.

thunder official testing day! Fc were very specific about not doing it before even though i did and they still booked my scan anyway

Well line was darker today so phew! Still feels like a dream!

barking a good walk and talk sounds good. Be kind to yourself and mr b x

Haha, spare, that is funny, and too true. A whole (tiny) person is rather bigger than a pessary! I approve very much of her being a patient style, though.

Why thank you, merk.

Bunny I'd count that as spotting. How many dpo are you, by the way? Just innocently enquiring...

Thanks, Thunder! Laughing at myself is the only way to keep sane through all this, I find.

Where = nudge

Behave you two!!!

Bunny I would count that as spotting. But if its different to your normal spotting I would also count it as a symptom

Oo bunny

barking good work on going steady today. I know what you mean about feeling impatient too. I was exactly the same. And still am to be honest.

rum you're funny! Good news on your appt though.

sid sorry you've not been on top form lately. I think sometimes we just reach capacity with ttc taking up every waking thought, and so are not on top of things so much. Although you do have merk to do it for you! Good that there's positivity in there too!

TMI question - spotting, what do you count as spotting? Yesterday I had some pink when I wiped first thing but not much else all day and today not much either, a tiny bit of brown when wiping.

Nice conversation for dinner time lol

Sid even I know that your 7dpo today
Rum great news on your FC appointment and having your dildocam virginity taken (that sounds so wrong )
Barking I am like you and incredibly impatient. I have to force myself to think one day at a time but I know it's not easy. It';s just sometimes things can feel insurmountable if I don't break them down into manageable chunks iyswim. So well done for getting through another horrible day x

Ooo, rum that's so soon! How exciting!

I've had headache and nausea all afternoon and fell asleep on the sofa (until the dog started barking) and missed the end of Marple. Struggling to decide whether it's linked to going for a walk and I'm pushing it, or just coincidence. Still planning on going to work tomorrow as I won't be in the classroom anyway.

Evening all!

How are we all today?

barking glad you have managed to get out and get some fresh air. I bet you just wanna fast forward a month or so.

Yay rum keeping fingers crossed for you!

spare I have felt all out of sorts this week too, assume its AF on her way combined with the weather change, so so cold here in the south west!

rum I wholeheartedly approve of being a patient!
My best mate is starting IVF this week and has practically requested a room service menu from her DH. And he has to do one set of injections for her because she can't stand the sight of the needles

She also told me quite a funny story from her last appt when they gave her all the drugs and showed her how it all works
She was fine until they showed her the pessaries, at which point she burst into tears
The nurse looked a bit and said all the tears start when they see the needles. She'd never have anyone get through that bit ok and then sob when they saw the little capsule, especially in light of what will be coming out of that general area in 9 months time

I made my thoughts on the 'just relax' camp clear in my sweary rant at the start of this thread

barking Glad the walk helped, and I'm sure some dog cuddles will help this week. As will Berry words of support if you hang around...

Sid I think there are some bugs doing the rounds at the moment. I worked from home today as I have the beginnings of lurgy and it has been flying around our office since the schools went back

So what is everyone up to this evening?

"Relax and it'll happen" is unscientific, infuriating bullsht. But well done on the sneaky IL-conception, barking*. Better plan another visit to them when you guys are ready to go again.

Sorry you've been feeling grotty, Sid. And yes! IVF/IUI/intervention works! There is hope for us all.

We had our fertility clinic initial planning meeting today. IVF a-go-go! I had my first delightful encounter with the dildocam - I really think there should be a 2 drink minimum for strangers inserting things into your nethers, but nevermind! The nurse unhelpfully took one look at my bits before dashing out of the room to get a doctor, leaving us alone for 20 mins, me naked from the waist down, just twiddling my thumbs. Thankfully the doc immediately declared my poor scary right ovary entirely normal, but there's a cyst I have to have rescanned before I can be properly booked in to start, and my left ovary disappeared and wouldn't be found after all that, so that was a bit of a waste of time and KY jelly. But, rescan appearances allowing, we could be set to go with my period next week! Feeling quite excited now, I think.

I'm now lying on the couch while Mr Rum does the hoovering. If I have to be "the patient" through all of this (nevermind there are TWO of us trying to make a baby, you wouldn't believe that at all for all that today's talk was directed at him), I shall milk it for all it's worth.

barking I think you're doing all the right things. Time outside with a friend getting gentle exercise will help your body and your mind, and keeping in contact with people who love you will help you feel less isolated in your grief. The more people who can support you through, the better. That being said, next time, would you please take Bristowpooch with you? Vet says he's too chubby

I agree with you about the whole "relax" nonsense. If tension or stress prevented pregnancy, then nobody would ever get pregnant from a sexual assault, or while in grinding poverty, or during wartime or famine or any of that. So much of why things happen when they happen can just never be known. Personally when I hear "relax" it feels a little victim-blamey. The real stress of TTC didn't sink in til the 6-8 month mark for me, so why didn't cycles 1-5 work??

As for me, this hasn't been the greatest week; I've felt 'off' since Saturday and haven't gotten my mojo back. On the TTC front, this cycle has been an epic fail on the DTD front - DTD 2x during the window - and for the first time in over a year, I don't automatically know what cycle day I'm on, nor am I temping or paying any attn to CM. Not sure if I should feel liberated, or like I've given up and just biding time til Clomid and/or IVF.

Although I have to say again that I am massively encouraged by the BFPs lately and am much more hopeful than I used to be that intervention of some kind will actually work for us, since it has worked for others. Sometimes in a big way! Thinking of boom with her 2-for-1 pregnancy!!

spare it's possible that we conceived via a sneaky, v quiet dtd at my MiL's house before we left for the airport .
(It was our first clomid cycle, we were trying very hard to cover all bases).

Actually, thinking about it, it's a middle finger up to all the 'relax' bollocks. It was the most pressured cycle because of the clomid and we were travelling over shag week so had to fit dtd around visiting MiL, staying with a mate on an airbed in her lounge and camping in a tiny weeny tent. Believe me, that bfp was bloody hard work and definitely not the result of relaxing! Just a pity it didn't stick .

Had a lovely walk and talk. It was definitely good to leave the house but feeling exhausted now and back on the sofa!
Wish I could just be put in a coma for the next 3 weeks and wake up with the bleeding stopped and the hormones sorted and I could get on with the 'coming to terms with it' bit. Patience is not my strong point and it's being pushed to it's limit .

Anyway, time for a bit of Miss Marple .

Barking still thinking of you. Hope the walk on the hills blows some cobwebs away if nothing else.
Spare damnit to IL contraception!
to everyone else

barking You are being so amazing and resilient. I hope the walk helps things emotionally and physically. Time with a sympathetic friend and a dog will always be a good thing

kitty and boom Great news, and giving hope to us all!

I think I'm out this month, because we were staying with the in-laws this weekend when I ov'd and we just couldn't bring ourselves to dtd in their house!

I'll join the queue for ThunderWee TM, thanks!

Haha at not weeing for 9 months. Now that would be a miracle of conception! Let the good news sink in, kitty!

Your plan for the day sounds perfect, barking. I hope you feel a lot better at the end of it.

Barking a sympathetic friend and fresh air is probably much better than wallowing and maybe stop for some cake She is definitely brave though! Hope it helps you clear your head a bit, sometimes a friendly listener who isn't personally involved is exactly what you need for a bit of a brain dump.

Hi sid nice to see you! We knew there was a higher risk of twins from the clomid, but didn't really expect it to happen to us - no tests or anything, just lucky that we managed to blag an early scan

Kitty short of catheterisation, you're going to have to go at some point!

I'm feeling quite wobbly and teary today, emotions all over the place and physically weak, but the bleeding has remained at period levels since yesterday so I'm off to Boots to get some super strength towels and then I'm going for a gentle dog walk in the hills with a brave friend who has been warned it may not be a cheery outing. I just can't do another full day on the sofa. Going to attempt work tomorrow. I'm not in class so can run home again if needs be without causing any disruption.

Hey sid, how are you doing lovely?

And yes another vote of amazingness and a hug for barking. I hope you've got more time off, rest and recovery booked in.