The Elderberry Pavlovas- All aboard the Berrycopter. Thread 14

Yep tomorrow aftie, I wouldn't keep you waiting my little kittykins

barking sounds like you are heading in the right direction my lovely x

So was the general opinion wear a skirt if I think I have dildocam tomorrow?

What? Barking's got dangly bits?

Think I may need to actually read back on what's going on here! So many posts this evening but I also have a big pile of work and only a tiny dent has been made so far.

Without wanting to jinx anything, I just went to the toilet and for the first time in 12 days there was no blood .
I think being able to stop wearing sanitary towels 24/7 would be a nice step forward .

Oi, I'd thank you to keep my dangly bits out of it! .

So what's your conclusion yorkie? When you went to the nhs appointment did you ask about private treatment affecting nhs entitlement?

Oh I thought the appointment was today!

How's things kitty? (i'd prefer chocolate to vodka at the mo )

RP lol at barking and her dangly bits

yorkie think the date of last AF is easy to remember, Friday 13th lol

No idea of what questions to ask, apart from when will I get a baby?!?

arse should we really call you that? I feel bad already! Where are you with fc, etc or are you going au naturellle? I think we all waited for the right job/house/man and then paid the price!

rp oh I haven't done any expensive ones since otd, just ic atm. £3.49 for 25 well spent!!!

Thanks for your thoughts ladies. Told DH I was going to ask the thread for advice and he wholeheartedly encouraged it! Thanks sid for your thoughts - exactly what I thought. Sneaky but necessary I think.

Anyway, enough about me. Glad to hear the positive pg tests contine kitty hope the appt comes around soon.

Definitely etch your last menstrual period start date to your brain bunny or write down your start date as I always forgot and they always ask...leading to panic and a fumbled checking of my iphone! Have an idea of the questions you want to ask and go through them with your DH so he knows as well. I forgot what I want to ask as I'm so emotional at these appt but having DH there to ask helps. What time is the appt bunny

Wow arse you're like me on the numerous supplements! I got to the stage where I thought maybe I'm actually taking too many of these?!

RP my appt isn't until Friday but unlike Bunny we haven't filled in any forms so fear it's just going to be one long paperwork exercise!

Kitty so glad all is well

Bunny if you want dangly bits, I believe it was barking who'd developed those, ahem.....

Thanks Happy! When is your appt?

Kitty I'm sure clearblue are very grateful for your continued patronage! How much money would you spend if you kept this up till the birth, I wonder?!

Thanks sid I have noted down all my dates etc and will take my iPad for a back up on the app. FC should have all our test results and we filled in a very long form with both our medical histories a few weeks back.

kitty you will have to dangle something better than a carrot in front of me if you want my attention

Barking so glad you've been signed off. Whilst I find that teaching is great for keeping you busy and taking your mind off things school also isn't the place to be if you are feeling the least but fragile. Look after yourself and take all the time you need.
Yorkie sorry to hear things are so complicated with the FC still
RP your chart looks great bit is this your 1st month temping? If so I would wait a few months before you read too much in to things. I have a 25/26 day cycle and usually OV cd11-13 giving me a LP of 12-14 days but had 2 occasions where I OVd late on cd16 but my LP didn't change. So this month could just be abnormal for you. Also as I said my temp rarely drops before AF and my LP and Progesterone are fine. Also I'm never strict about the time I take my temps during hols and weekends and I always get a very clear pattern but don't tell Merk

Where's bunny?

barking what a twat parent! Hope taking a bit more time off helps

yorkie you have to bare in mind that I'm incredibly biased now but personally I'd go for one cycle of iui. Failing that, I'd jump through the hoops for ivf.

So did pg test number 10 today! I really need to get a grip don't I?!

barking your student's parent was totally out of line and whether you were a parent or not, it had nothing to do with your professional opinion. Such a ridiculous comment would really have taken me aback and then I'd've been steamed later for not coming up with a cutting reply. Just remember: these people do not matter in the big scheme of things. They would not make such ignorant comments if they had half an inkling of what you are going through. I'm glad your GP has signed you off as it sounds like you need more time away from the world while you build up your strength. Do not feel awkward about this - I'd still be under the covers! You have been amazingly strong so far but this is probably going to be a two-steps-forward/one-step-back sort of thing, so go easy on yourself and don't worry about asking for/demanding what you need

Yorkie I think you & your DH have opted for the most sensible solution on the table. Having a monitored cycle will shed light on what's going on in your body, and at what times during the month, than anything you've had thus far. And it would've been silly not to take on IUI to that too if it wasn't much more money! I'd have chosen the same thing. And now that we know, thanks to Blind, that IUI does work sometimes, then who knows what might happen?

As for the Clomid angle, I'm afraid that I might be very sneaky and pretend to have taken it for 2 cycles, or perhaps take it for 1 cycle right before your appt in Dec. Maybe doing that wouldn't affect your FSH level too much and you could move straight on to NHS IVF. I'd be very uncomfortable about doing anything that might monkey with my blood test results in a way that would bar me from IVF - my understanding is that they go by test results that are available on the day of your appointment, so for ex if you started taking a medication that raised your weight above the max BMI allowed, they wouldn't offer you IVF, even if the weight gain were directly related to a medication and you'd never had a problem before. This is probably very dodgy advice but in the end it's your body and you shouldn't be pushed into doing something that might keep you from getting the treatment that has the best chance of working.

Merk I don't know what that means. I set the alarm for 7am and pretty much stick the thermometer in my mouth right then! Perhaps 10 or 20 min difference in a day but that oughtn't to make much difference?

Yes I wondered if temps not dropping might be connected to short LP as that seems to be a problem a few people have.

RP your chart looks perfect. FX for AF staying away. Out of interest why are your temps after O all open circles? Are you taking them at different/varying times?

I read somewhere I think that if your temp doesn't drop until after AF starts that you may have low progesterone

Bunny, I took
AF lengths, length of bleed, what day I was on
Paper copies of all reports, for me & for DH
medical history, esp any gyn issues
Nurse caught me off guard by asking about DH's med history, incl surgeries, allergies, etc, including years when things occurred.
Also had my iphone app pulled up that has a calendar tagged with Cycle Day numbers - she kept getting things mixed up and kept trying to override me til I showed her the phone and she understood where she was going wrong. Really kind of aggravating.
Also, prepare to be weighed!

barking sounds like you've done the right thing taking the rest of the week off and glad that your gp has agreed to sign you off. You need to think of some nice things you can do - can you go visit anyone who hasn't got a child/isn't upduffed for a few days?

Welcome to the thread arse

barking clomid won't cause any permanent damage but is likely to raise my fsh for a while after so when nhs retest it may be higher than it naturally should be. When I asked my nhs fc about this and whether it would be taken into account when considering ivf referral and cut off he kind of just shrugged and didn't answer the question hence my panic. We can't really afford private ivf hence why I want to keep the nhs route open.

Yep sid this was my private appt after my confusing nhs appt last week.

merkin This is a monitored iui done privately. I don't think it affects the nhs route other than me not starting clomid this month as agreed with my nhs consultant.

barking oh honey, sorry you had a bad day, hugs x

yorkie Crikey that does sound complicated!

So should I take a list of my AF dates, lengths etc with me to FC? Anything else?

Hi everyone!

rp my bbt doesn't usually drop until cd3 or 4.

arse are you another with a short LP? I just ask because you tried the b6 and angus castus. B6 didn't work for me but I never tried the AC.

www.fertilityfriend.com/m/home.php/47fae3

Just trying to link my chart! AF supposed to arrive today according to my usual pattern. Some symptoms but not here yet. Pretty sure not pg but as before, thought bbt should be dropping by now....

Sid I thought your OPKs agreed with doc? If you did O on cd13 is AF due today or tomorrow?

Barking, you poor love. Please do not beat yourself up for not being ready for work and the outside world. You need to heal yourself and then also prepare yourself for bitches like that parent who make stupid unthinking comments. I wish there was something constructive or helpful I could say or do, or a way that I could speed up time for you x

Arse - hi, welcome in. Nothing worse than a cycle where you don't know where you are. What's the reason for all of the vits/supplements? (Other than not being pregnant obviously). I know some people swear by them but I also have heard stories of them causing issues and severely messing with cycles (eg Angus castus) so I would always be on the cautious side

Yorkie, no wonder you are confused. A monitored cycle of IUI sounds like a good plan but what effect would this have on the NHS treatments?