The Elderberry Pavlovas- All aboard the Berrycopter. Thread 14

funky thank you for confirming I'm not weird to feel strange about going back to dtd.

Wow Bunny !! No come back in 3 months for tests, then back 3 months later for results, then 6 months of clomid regardless of whether you ovulate or not, followed by a referral to ivf a year later?????

I imagine you have mixed feelings but must be good to have a relatively speedy plan of action .

Bunny literally just getting in from work so I'm only now catching up with your FC happenings. Glad all went so well and that you've come out of it with some answers and a plan for the future
Found my original referral letter yesterday and looks like Friday's appointment is just with a nurse. Won't get to see a consultant til later on. I'm ok with that though. As we're on a break at the moment things don't feel super urgent. Hope everyone else is doing well. After a 14 hour day I need a cuppa before I read back and catch up on today's Berry happenings. Catch you all later.

Jizzlolly!!

I am feeling quite AFfy so bit sad about that.....

Thanks lovely ladies! I guess we live in a really good NHS area

It does feel weird knowing what path we are heading down and sad to be told its unlikely to happen naturally but I think deep down I knew that anyway.

RP we will have to pay for the sperm freezing (jizz ice lolly ) but it will be worth it

Not sure about how long wait is to starting ICSI. The wait for lap and dye may be a while, I think she said 16 weeks which is forever! We are going to see if it would be covered under DHs work private medical policy, if not we may dig into the new kitchen fund as its several thousand pounds

Bunny that's great! Wow, she's going to send you a letter with everything! Remind me, is this NHs or private?

It's always just great when someone just gives you a plan, and she sounds so sensible, taking precautions like freezing DH sperm.

Hopefully you will be an ivf instadiff! With triplets!

Woohoo, Bunny, welcome to the IVF club! Nice to know that things are moving forward.

Omg!!! I just thought she was going to bung some clomid at you and tell you to come back in 6 months!!! Sorry, things might seem a bit bleak but at least you have a diagnosis (more or less) and a plan. How long is the waiting list?

Bunny that is simply great news, surely the shortest time from today to result is fab. I appreciate it will be a big shock and IVF can be a lot to get your head around and deal with but however you get to the end goal is irrelevant. I'm really pleased for you. How are you and OH feeling?

Right, well I think I have got it all straight in my head. The 45 min appointment went by in a blur! I didn't really ask questions, just sat there and nodded!
The consultant is lovely, she explained things nice and simply for us. She said i didn't have to take notes as she would send us a letter detailing what was discussed.
She went through all our test results and what they meant, I ovulate so that's fine, no sweeties for me! Hormone levels showed possible PCOS but all other results fine, I have a good egg reserve apparently. DH sperm level is low but he does have some sperm getting through which is good.
Dildocam was fun lol (although DH thinks fannycam is hilarious) and it showed fibroids but where they are shouldn't be a problem so she said. Scan did show signs of polycystic ovaries which could be one of the causes of the spotting before AF, also possible endometriosis.
She wants to do a lap and dye to check my tubes and make sure everything is ok in there. DH has to have sperm frozen in case of reducing quality and numbers as the months go on.
She says that although there is a chance we could get pg naturally it is highly unlikely. She is putting us on the list for IVF - ICSI!

Shocked and stunned at actually being told what will happen, I assumed it would be tests tests tests first!

sid re your question to merk, how do you know the clomid hasn't lengthened your lp? In me, clomid overstimulated my follicles but its unlikely I produced mature eggs, although I have multicystic ovaries.

barking seriously, wtf is your mil thinking?

mrs afraid we're all symptom spotters at times but now that I'm actually pg I don't have one symptom lol. Having said that, I'd keep poas!! Ooh and keep us posted!!!

Bunny I am wearing out the refresh button on my phone off to put dinner on to waste some time and then will check back

Hang on hang on, must catch up first...

sid sorry to hear you are blue, must be difficult with the family issues

Do I smell new berries welcome arse and mrs

Hugs barking you are not being weird, I can imagine it will take a while to get back to 'normal'

Off to type up my essay report for you berries

Merk thanks for the chart advice too!!! I think what happened is, during the early days of this cycle I was on annual leave and my timings were messed up. Now, I wake, temp and input right away - before I've even got out of bed - at about 7am. I think I'll just leave it till the next cycle when I'll make sure I do all the times at 7 (or whenever).

I am now on CD27 (so one 'day late' for me) and 10 DPO, 11 if I make it through till tomorrow morning. So far (everything xed) no sign of AF, beyond spots and feeling fat, but these may equally be due to eating far too much Dairy Milk.

I do not think I'm pg at all but I would love to make it 11 or even 12 DPO so I know I don't have a short LP..........

Merk that reminds me of my DM telling me about her first-ever gynae exam, when she was pregnant with me. Apparently she said to the doc, 'Ha ha, you won't be getting THAT back'.

Doc:

MrsW what did you say? That has made me right DH has psoriasis and it is bad enough small children staring in the pool and so forth. You should be able to go to the doctor's without the stand-up routine. At least you should email the practice manager. Seriously, or he will do it to someone with real issues over their appearance.

Sid I think (maybe???) I do know a little how you feel. It's not really the same circs but DH's erectile dysfunction meant we couldn't ttc for a really long time, and half the battle was actually getting him to treat his condition. Not the same circs, but just that awful feeling of your partner saying they want this but then in practice undermining it or just being passive........Is that how you feel?

Sorry if you've already said but have you had a big heart-to-heart?

YES! We need an update Mrs!

Are my ears burning?!?

We always knew she was jealous of not having had one Thunder That poor doc trying to wrestle it back from her

Also RP just realised I didn't really respond to you properly the other day re. your chart...
Notice that the temperatures before O mostly have a filled in circle to mark them on the chart, whereas the more recent ones have a non filled in circle. A non filled in circle indicates a temperature that has been discarded manually by the user or a temperature that has been recorded at a time outside of the normal range. If you are taking your temperatures on time are you not putting them into FF until later? This could explain why FF thinks the times are wrong.
This will also probably be the cause of why you have dotted lines making up the crosshairs on your chart and not solid lines. Dotted lines indicate that FF is not certain about your ovulation date - I think this will be caused by the pre / post O temps that are not solid circles.

I would guess that if you go back and make the times on all of your temperatures the same, that the open circles will change to closed circles and the dotted lines will turn to solid lines. (This will also give FF more reliable data for future stats and charts so worth doing)

Also are you not doing OPK's to correlate your O date?

FF explanation of dotted lines here
FF explanation of open and closed circles here

Lecture over!

Bunny's enjoying the dildocam too much

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