The Elderberry Pavlovas: sit on the sofa of hopefulness and make yourself a special omelette while prescribing the vomming cat to those that deserve it and observing the lunching of the tactless.

barking I know I said it wasn't painful but then I did take co-codamol. I also didn't feel well enough for work the rest of the day. Felt absolutely fine the next day though.

Extreme pain, discharge or high temp though you need to call the doc x

sid DTD every day we can barely do it every month lol

goose how you doing?

barking oh gosh hun, hope the pain eases off soon. Hugs!

DH and me ok today, he has made his next appt for jizz test which is luckily after shag week!

I have been vile at work today, hopefully my colleagues just think it was first day back blues rather than just being a moody cow!

Sending good vibes barking

barking hope you're on the phone or on the way to hospital. Take care, even if it's nothing, it's best to get it checked.

Would any of you be interested in my cbfm? I've used it for one cycle, but as it's now cd50 and it's only suitable for cycles of up to 42 days, I don't think it's for me. I also have an unopened pack of 20 sticks that I bought for next cycle. And lo, nothing. Make me an offer and I'll post them.

barking when I had my HSG the other week they told me that if I had pain in the evening I should go to A&E due to risk of infection. Not trying to worry you but you need to get looked at ASAP. X

is it worth calling NHS direct? it sounds very painful, possibly similar to the cramping aftery erpc, when they fiddled around after the mc. I would call for some proper advice if it's worse than you have had before.

Compared to my own experience of HSG on Tuesday, this sounds horrific Barking. I took 2 pain killers beforehand and hardly felt anything afterwards. They told me to contact them if I had prolonged bad pains or a discharge as it would indicate an infection. I wouldn't worry about making a fuss, just call docs again if no better. Hope you get sorted soon.

hmm... did he know that it would be in emergency hours in an hour's time? If so he must have meant to call anyway right? Did he say what he'd want you to do if pains hadn't gone?

Poor you! What did the doctor say to do if no better in an hour?

Hi Boom, took so long typing my post I missed yours completely. Thanks for the sympathy and hugs, it really does help to rant here!!
Envy you your child free friend, they are rare to come by these days! Have a lovely evening, is it sunny there?

Hi Berries, thanks for all your support today - I think as a result of my rants at you lot I managed not to blubber to my colleagues for which I am truly thankful!

Scone and Barking you are right, it probably is largely hormonal glasses - I hate the way AF can just turn me into a monster. In general I've learnt to do no thinking or talking (and I should probably add no internet posting!) about anything but the easiest and most pleasant things while the I'm sunk in that PMT pit of rage, paranoia and tendency to melodrama! Just super bad timing.

Bunny hope you and your OH have a better evening tonight.

Sid - sorry to hear you've got unsympathetic GP. Good idea to go straight back. Hope you won't ever get to the stage of having to look at private treatment. Is it really more expensive if you're older?? I'm 38 and if NHS don't have funding to monitor the Clomid cycles we're thinking of going private for that bit.

Thunder - I think the every day versus every other day argument is meant to rest on sperm test (according to internet!) As in if he has high count and strong swimmers or whatever they don't need a day to recoup between. I was thinking of going to Dr Google tonight to try and work that one out. Not that we ever get anywhere near ed or eod either Tally!

Barking sorry to hear your HSG was painful - cramps any better yet?

Ooops pressed post too soon!

In common with all the not-eod'ers, we definitely don't manage to do the deed as much as some of you! It's all a bit half-hearted really, I've given up any hope of getting pg before getting some sort of help. Day 44 here, and I think we've only dtd once in the past week..although really, is there any point still worrying about it this far into a cycle?

goosey I'm so sorry you're having a rubbish time. Sure the hormonal craziness isn't helping your situation. I'd get the clomid and get started on it personally, but of course it depends on how things are with your DP. Hope things get better on that front too, sending you hugs. We're all here if you need to rant x

Sid sympathy on the newborn neighbour!

Getting ready to go out for a post essay-hand-in bottle glass of and some gossip with a thankfully child-free friend! Hooray!

barking the leaflet they gave me said period-like cramps were a likely after-effect!

Oh and take some good drugs for the pain?

Get off dr google immediately. Dr google is actually an idiot.

What did they say there today? Can you give the clinic a quick call to put your mind at rest? It doesn't sound that surprising to me that there is some cramping after all that prodding and poking but I don't know about this stuff so can you ring someone who does?

tally we never manage to dtd eod either. It's a mahoosive effort to do it lots of shag week too. This cycle once af buggers off we have both resolved to just try as much as we can (and hope that is more than twice like this last cycle!)

barking excellent news on it all looking clear but poor you on the af cramps. Can you have a big old poo and see if it helps?!

guys, I'm reading all of your 'every other day' stories and literally feeling tired. We manage it about twice in shag week and lucky if we do it any other time in the month. how do you do it? dh I'd on silly shifts, but even when he's on 'normal' days one or other of us is too tired or dh falls asleep on the sofa and turns into a grump monster I wouldn't even suggest it to.