The Elderberry Pavlovas, sausage bouquets, one giant sofa and the Gü pots of destiny! (thread 9)

Thanks frog. I'm already seeing an acupuncturist, she's great but not had enough sessions yet to know if it's helping to regulate anything - fingers crossed!

Having calmed down a little, I'm actually wondering if some sort of counselling or therapy would be a good idea. I surprised myself at just how genuinely upset I got, I was so ANGRY when the doctor wouldn't/couldn't help. I think there's a good chance I haven't got over the miscarriage at all, I suppose I constantly feel like I've messed up my 'chance' because I got pregnant but didn't get a baby and now I can't do it again (putting it very crudely, but that's what I think the issue is). But I don't really know where to get counselling from! Not going back to the doctor, she already thinks I'm a fruit loop and besides, NHS waiting times to see a counsellor are about 4 months..

Anyone got any cunning plans?

Oh MrsByou're not a basket case. Mega Boombastic boos to unsympathetic drs & DHs. You know you can get pg so it must be so frustrating when your cycles are so out of whack.

I think I am going to try reflexology to try & regulate my cycles on various berries recommendations. Even if it doesn't sort them out it sounds like it could be very good for stress. Have you thought about trying that or maybe acupuncture if you feel like you have to do something before the FC in Aug? Just don't tell DH it's for TTC but to relax / sort out your stress about TTC. I've not booked any yet but found someone who sounds good through the Association of Reflexologists. There is a local area search function:

www.aor.org.uk/

Well docs was a write-off. Apparently none of my slightly wonky results are wonky enough to warrant a diagnosis of PCOS, so nothing doing there. Just have scan to wait for next month sometime and then have to wait until Aug for FC appt unless it shows something monumental. Doc told me to stop stressing about it and that she didn't know why I was so distressed about it. DH then sided with doc and then after the appt said I was obsessed and relentless and he didn't know how much longer he could take it, and that I acted like I WANT something to be wrong with me. So now I feel totally shit, and as if everyone thinks I'm a total basket case.

I'm not a basket case am I?

Morning all. Pants (probably big ones or old ones) bunny to AF.

Tally this may make me weird but I have to clean my teeth before I shower. I can't stand the feeling of an unclean mouth in the shower! I'm also a big fan of the dressing gown but that may be because we live in a rather overlooked house & have a part-time SS!

I think we generally DTD on top "just for fun" or it's not necessarily the finishing post IYSWIM. Mr Frog is quite fond of "froggy" style (lying down) & I'm not sure that is very good for swimmer retention either. I didn't get to do boodle leg waving either last night as he wanted to cuddle after & given the pressure comment & fact I want to make demands tonight as well I thought I'd better keep him sweet so just did a lot of pelvic floor clenching & subtle hip raises instead!

happy FX. Alcohol seems to send my temps way up too by the way & so does taking it at any time after my usual 6am.

Good luck at the docs boodle!

Oh & if law of Sod is listening this month should be my month as I am supposed to go to hospital next month for my colposcopy follow-up & they won't do it if I'm pg.

bunny sorry to hear AF has arrived for you. Big hugs.

boombastic (loving the name and now singing that song!) good luck at the docs today. Hope your DH managed to get there as backup. Let us know how you get on...

aww bunny. Hugs for you.

re the towel, I seem to have hollow shoulders or something because no matter how I tuck it, putting my arm up to brush loosens it and bam, dh is very happy... not that that's a problem, but I don't like being cold.
Swimmers wise, dh sometimes tries to roll me over but I find that extremely awkward. I suppose if TTC, that's probably the best option but it's not always guaranteed to work. Btw, question was prompted by fun session as it is now cd7 and pretending that we are safe from forbidden conception atm... only a couple of days after af has gone, so we should be ok. It feels so wrong to be having to be careful!

Sorry bunny, had my fingers crossed for you. She's such a bitch, big hugs x

Why can't I do square brackets?? WHY?

Oh and boodle, great minds clearly think alike when it comes to bathtime solutions.

Boodle awaiting my next chance to do the leg wave and sing! Missed out on yesterday's so will have to wait for tomorrow's DTD... Hope your bloods are the right day!

Tally these are indeed weighty questions. Hmm.

• Re the towel: tuck it in under your armpit instead of between your boobs and then you can hold it down with your non-brushing arm...? or wear a dressing gown

• Re the topsiding: nope. And I get really annoyed on the..um..dismount when all those swimmers get wasted! I've suggested to DH that we do a rollover manoeuvre before 'disengaging' but he looked at me like I was a nutter and said 'gerroff' so I'm taking that as a no [embarrassed].

happy still in with a chance! Tadpoles live for up to 5 days, so both 6 and 10 bonks are valid. Are you going to keep going with shag week just in case?

Right, off to docs to cry until they help me see what's what. Going to do as you say cate and ask them to write to the clinic to let them know how annoyed I am! No way am I waiting another year!

Sorry about typos and autocorrects! I meant roll, not role earlier, obviously!

happy don't give up yet. I had a temp rise on cd10 this month which was sustained enough to get crosshairs on cd9! I definitely didn't ovulate then. Got positive opk a couple of days later and now this morning, cd17, I've had another significant jump. I guess you have to wait and see what your temp does tomorrow. Did you have any wine last night? Alcohol massively affects my temps, even just one glass!

Tally

1. A big bath sheet so tha you can get some serious tucking in of the towel going on (under the armpit for the tuck works for me!)

2.are you referring to the 'aftermath' of DTD on top? I tend to do a tres elegant sideways role onto my back in the hope of keeping some stuff in! Even more embarrassingly, as youngsters, I used to just slide up and let it drip out on his lower abdomen!!! (He didnt care if it saved changing rhe sheets!) Oh my god, the shame. I'm pretty sure I've said more than enough to out myself in here in the past...let's hope people aren't reading!

Morning Berries. Awoke to a big temp rise this morning which, if it is OV, means it happened yesterday on cd10 . If so we've totally screwed up shag week as only started last night cos DP has had man flu been really ill. So if I did OV on cd10 and DTD on cds 6 and 10, is there any hope at all this month??

OK girls, I've just had a shower before bed and just before I go to sleep, please can you answer me 2 questions that have bugged me for a very long time?

1. How on earth do you keep your towel wrapped around you while brushing your teeth?

2. (tmi alert) Does anyone have a method of keeping the bed clean whilst dtd on top? or are you all good girls who lie back and think of England?

Sorry. I just really want to know if anyone else has a solution to either one....

at MrsBoombastic! God damn it people, now I've got Shaggy in my head. Not just Mr. Boombastic, oh no, I've got his "greatest" hits going on in my brain now: Oh Carolina anyone? What about his In The Summertime Mungo Jerry cover? No? Just me? OK then...

MrsBoombastic, I am well chuffed by 'doing a boodle'! I'm not sure I can take credit for this age-old TTC trickery, but I do like to think that singing 'throw your legs in the air, wave them around like you just don't care' to the tune of Cypress Hill's Throw Your Set In The Air no less, is more unique to me!

Good luck Frog I think this could be your lucky day!!

Peanut I think you need to get your doctor to ring & write to the clinic. The secretary is in totally the wrong job if that's how she speaks to people - bitch! But what goes around comes around she can't be happy in her life.

Yay after last months cycle craziness I have a positive OPK today & some EWCM on a textbook CD14! Unfortunately we didn't DTD last night but managed CD10 & 12 & have got DP primed for tonight (after Broadchurch). His comment was "no pressure then!"

Evening! I feel a lot better now that I've spent an hour beating stuff up. Going to take all my 'evidence' to the GP tomorrow and possibly also take DH as he's meaner than me and isn't constantly dissolving into puddles of sissy tears and might get a better result. FX that I can get some sort of explanation as to what the hell is going on.

Frog nothing like a bit of Shaggy to inspire a NC...

Cate docs are rubbish. They need a 5 yr degree to dispense this advice? Really?

Blind sadly it wasn't even the fc, it was gynae clinic, FC is just a distant dream still - at this rate I won't be referred until 2020!

Just rescued a lady who'd run out of petrol on the way back from the gym. Feeling like a good samaritan for driving her to the petrol station and back and pushing her car off the road

Bunny feeling hopeful at all?

Busy day at work, spent all lunchtime trying to ignore/cajole/assist a child in my class who was screaming and wailing at me. I've got the water-off-a-duck's-back response down to a tee now..... Would have been more helpful to actually have managed to mark some of the literacy books rather than merely attempting to while studiously ignoring the two-year-old temper tantrum from the eight year old girl. Oh well. Fingers crossed tomorrow morning is better and I have lunchtime to get work done rather than tend to more tantrums.

mrs bombastic Peanut I think you deserved a tantrum today, I know I would have had one after that phone call

Off to have a bath. Still in running kit having returned home from my run and immediately had dinner followed by long conversation with friend who has been ttc longer than me (she of the 6 week non-stop period that has thankfully stopped now) then emailing photos of my mate's kids to her that I took at the weekend. Bath now then bed. Apologies for skim reading but still not recovered from the 5am wake up yesterday morning followed by another day on the beach + long drive home + planning!! Lightweight

Evening all bunch up for a very elder berry (38)
TTC cycle 6 although haven't really been counting, married 4 years. CD11 temping and OPK no sign of Ov this cycle yet. Hoping to try reflexology. Words of wisdom from doctor "get on with it and come back see me in 6 months"

Have you got clothes on, bunny?

Gosh busy week pip, how's the packing going? merk is quiet at the mo so you didnt miss owt I don't think.

Oh I see. I go off to put everything I own in boxes and you all nick off to a new thread.
IVF appointment tomorrow but I think AF will be here too. Moving out of our house on Thursday and into the new on Saturday.
Haven't read the end of the last thread, how is Merk?