The Elderberry Pavlovas, sausage bouquets, one giant sofa and the Gü pots of destiny! (thread 9)

barking that is tough for your friend. Although has it not come up before?! I always think its best to make sure you're not on totally different pages about this sort of important stuff fairly early on, but then maybe I am totally a over-controlling witch at times! I would be really hurt if I were her about the marriage bit too- why not for a couple of years? They've already devoted 12years of their lives together but he is not ready to make a formal commitment? Er hello?

Does she want me to write a strongly worded letter as well?

kitty boozey lunch sounds great! Tricky with what to do afterwards- for me it's either sleep or push on through with the wine and it usually ends up being the latter

I was talking to a friend last night who is going though a difficult time in her 12 year relationship - marriage and babies came up and he's 'not sure' but 'definitely not in the next couple of years'. I'm sorry but when you've been together that long and you're both in your 30's you really should know.... They are now living separately but are still together (that's a long story).
Anyway, she was saying the same about married people as we do about pg women - two of our mutual friends went round to see her this week and all they did was talk about their weddings!! At least when pg women flaunt their bumps they can't actually help it, and when they talk about babies they don't necessarily know others around them are ttc, but you'd think people would have more tact than to talk endlessly about weddings with someone who is going through a really bad time in their relationship!!

thunder hell yeh we need a BFP! Its bound to be me hahahahaha

Going for lunch today with someone I met on last hol. DH wants to drive which means I'll be tempted by the vino...

Oh yeah I remember barking, although I reckon that we need a regular berry 'wingman' to start the surge through the floodgates after trying so you still have a job to do. Not good about your DH at this point though- shall I write him a strongly worded note on behalf of the berries?

Good on you bunny, hope you had a good time!

I selflessly offered to open the floodgates thunder but trying beat me to it. I'm on my vit B6 this cycle though so you never know, cycle 17 could be my cycle!! Have to dtd to get pg though, and I ordered DP to the spare room when he gets home tonight as he got very drunk and decided to head out to 'be wingman' to one of his very drunk mates when I was ready to drive home at 11.45. He promised he'd stick to 2 or 3 pints unless it was a 'special occasion.' He's not seen this mate in a while as he moved away last year. His definition of a 'special occasion' and mine apparently differ quite markedly.

Oh Cats too funny

is it a bit like this?

www.google.co.uk/search?q=the+relic&safe=off&rlz=1C1CHFX_en-GBGB434GB434&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=te96Uf_1GsWlO57XgcAP&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=475#imgrc=so5NhtOMZgtLjM%3A%3BMvj2BcE8Zh1i3M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fs3.amazonaws.com%252Frapgenius%252FRelic1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Frapgenius.com%252F1050514%252FWu-tang-clan-weak-spot%252FLike-you-being-chased-by-the-relic%3B792%3B557

Ha ha Kitty if you find one pass it onto me

Cate ah thats where I'm going wrong!

Ok so I obviously have the look of an old barron lady. Came home to a dripping pipe - called my old plumber who is about 70. He spontaniously proceeds to tell me he and his wife were married 13 years with no children when she received a "very strong relic" and apparently conceived instantly!!!??? Where is the relic? I asked "Oh she had to pass that on" - very strange, he did if the pipe though.

bunny don't say you've left it too late! I'm 33 too!!!

barking YES, you're right! I drove all the way home wondering what the f* it meant haha!

Re my mate and are bikini bump, I don't think I can tell her. Its her first pregnancy and she just wants to tell the world, just wish seeing it didn't make a little bit of me die each time

Anyway, need to buy a bikini myself tomorrow (might even post a picture of my muffin top on fb haha), anyone seen any nice ones in the shops?

tally it sounds such a difficult position you are in. But you're doing the right thing by being as prepared as you possibly can be. We all need mixing up in here with our range of issues!

boom identical quads!!! Can you imagine the chaos.....

Am back on the sofa for wine and chocolate - though think I can come out from under the pity quilt and tentatively put my feet up on the pouffe of possibility. Ovaries might be on their last legs here - but I just need a few quality eggs, surely that's not too much to ask?!

Oh yeah I remember-another headf*ck for you. Similar to me and my thyroid only I am lucky enough to know the name of this problem at least. Do you have an appointment date yet?

Yes. I don't really want to, but waiting for gynae appt at hospital so as I know the getting duffed isn't a problem, we've got to be careful ad I want to make sure there's no easily found reason before it happens again.

Mmm that's so difficult. And very understandable because one looks for all the possible reasons for mc.

Do I remember rightly that you're waiting for a bit now- sorry if I've got that confused...

definitely one mixed up head here... there is no cure! there might be pre-emptive stuff that works to slow down and reduce the severity, which is basically cyclizine (antiemetic antihistamine) and vitamin b6, so I'm going to try that as soon as I get the bfp. They tried almost everything with me, including steroids but I don't think anything worked very well. steroids were the last ditch attempt but I mc soon after so that is both worrying that it might have caused it and that there wasn't enough time on them to see if it worked. I don't think they caused it but my head still tells me it might have had something to do with it...

Thank you boom and tally

Yeah I know of hyperemesis now you say it, just didnt know the abbreviation.

So can they stop your sickness tally or is it a case of just keeping you hydrated enough to suffer through? You must have so many mixed feelings about getting pg, what with that and the mc. You poor thing.

although, be aware that there is a massive photo of a baby belly on the front page as their logo.....

Thunder it's a bit of a crusade for me to make more people aware of it, as it's what hospitalised me each time before my mcs. It's a horrible illness because of the ridiculous situation that basic 'morning sickness' is normal, so anyone not aware of hg might not realise they are getting dehydrated and may be dismissed by doctors for being drama queens when really they need anti sickness meds and admission for a drip. Before drips, women died of this - I think one of the Bronte sisters did. It starts about 6 weeks usually so possibly before some people even know they are pg, which happened to Peaches, as she wasn't trying so no-one thought to tell her to poas and the media thought she was anorexic when really she was ill.

Sorry, I'll stop for a breath now.
If you want to find out more, stop by the hyperemesis thread in pregnancy and see what people are going through. Or look at the Pregnancy Sickness Support website www.pregnancysicknesssupport.co.UK

Thunder Hg = Hyperemesis Gravidarium (acute sickness of pregnancy). Not nice. And I would imagine that being able to go private can buy you as many tests as you want as soon as you want them!

I do actually think it depends on the doctor as to whether you get a diagnosis or not. PCOS isn't something that they've actually got a specific set of parameters for diagnosis for so it depends on the definition the doctor is using. My sister has PCOS but it took her 3 years of having hardly any periods after coming off the pill for a doctor to give her that diagnosis; yet I have a friend with PCOS who got a diagnosis within a few months. I think it helps diagnosis if you look polycystic - ie, overweight, facial/body hair, acne. But you can have PCOS without these (my sis is slim, and like me has hardly any noticeable body hair and dry rather than greasy skin).

Being slow here but what is Hg?

And does money buy quick PCOS diagnosis?!

I didn't know she had that too. She's done amazingly well then as she didn't even know she was diffed for the first one!

Oh, I don't hate her, she's just given me a fit of the ol' green-eye (and I really dislike the name she gave her poor kid, but I guess that runs in the family!) I didn't know she had hg, wouldn't wish that one anyone. Just jealous of anyone who manages to pop two kids out within a year and with PCOS (or even manages to get a diagnosis of PCOS at all for that matter..!)