The Genuine BESH Palais. To misquote Carlsberg, we're probably the barrenest TTC-ers in the world...

Though I guess if i'd agreed to front a misconceived and STUPID campaign, I'd find it a bit difficult to suddenly diss it all in a web chat too.

I didn't really care for her answers, I must admit.

Damn phone - fails to show me posts sometimes.

You are right moll. I should always have been taking it like I used to I suppose but I just lost hope with it all really. Ill get some more on weekend and also start thinking about cutting out wine/caffeine on the count down.

I text MATV to tell him paperwork came. The response I got didn't really befit the momentousness of the occasion I feel as it was literally 'ok, I'll be late home, I got tomato plants and need two grow bags'. proper real 'good life' like round yer.

White lightening and Maccdies for me.

This is not before time either. The stress has definitely taken its toll. I had a massive row with a good friend who I could probably safely say us now ex-friend on Saturday. Bit gutted but she's just been really unkind to me and used me as an emotional punchbag and I don't deserve it. So what with that and the other person blocking me on Facebook and ignoring me since I'm not doing too well. The fB blocker I don't really mind about about as she's MATV friends wife and they are a bit odd, MATV is a bit done with him but the person I fell out with this weekend has left me a bit gutted, we really were close. So this will at least be something to concentrate on for now. Please tell me I'm not the only one who has massive blow ups with people? MATV said I should go on Jeremy Kyle.

Yay for that news rasp.

I have no time for ill-conceived campaigns.

Woohoo rasp!! That's great news. And not before bloody time. Come celebrate with me in scummy corner, fried chicken and alcopops for everyone

That's great news Raspy! Hoorah!

I started reading the KG thread and gave up as it was stoopid and annoying.

Rasps, I reckon go for the folic - s'not so much about improving chances as reducing risk of spina bifida in the baybee that you WILL win on the ivf. The SB reduction is solid medical fact, rather than all these "may help conception" things, and you have to be taking it before conception for the most effective risk-minimising action.

That's all the opinion I have about pre-conception supplements.

I have received the FC paperwork. woooooooo! its only been 16 weeks since we were told we needed IVF. Once we get that back in they will give us an appointment to start sometime within a month. Just as well, my stress levels have become so high I've either constantly got a headache (been in bed with another migraine since lunch time) and my cycle is now on its longest ever at 42 days and counting. The only other time I've had such a long one was when I got married and it decided to arrive on my wedding day. Bitch.

Kate Garraway is a knob. I had a look at that thread and that 'X' woman is batshit mental.

So, do you think I should start taking folic acid again? I haven't taken it for about 2 years I don't reckon so don't worry Twink, we can be scummy together :)

My thoughts exactly twink.

Well that was a wishy washy load of shit wasn't it.

My question has been strangely ignored... (although to be fair, another less aggressive way of asking the say thing has been raised).

The Kate Garraway chat is not going well. Quelle surprise

I thought you wrote a lovely, measured and kind post bugs.

I did for about the first six months norf, and I did again for the first three months this year when I went on a big health kick, but it feels like a big arsed waste of money.

Just had a look at the excited thread and thought you were kind and considerate bugsie. So hurrah for you.

Morning hags!

OUCH about the awful blood draw

As to supplements for a few optimistic months post-mc I took folic acid and vitamin D religiously, but I didn't bring either on our 3 week hols in April... I have a slap-dash approach to it now, even though in the midst of IUI. I think I'll be good once the IVF cycle gets going...

Waves at draf's adoption plans. In part with deciding to start IVF finally, we agreed to seriously look into adoption but it is soooo hard once the cycle fails. So I read lots of bits on the net on it.

On drucks, cycling and EPO, I am still convinced none of them are entirely clean.

You mean you never have? Never mind, that sits nicely with our current CBATM ethos - you are bang on trend.

But you did, for a really long time!

I don't bother, twink!

Just me that doesn't bother then. Safe to say which of us will be the shitty parent who's always disorganised.

I think our guys are okay. I'd be very upset if they weren't! South Park did a hilarious episode about it where Jesus is exposed as a drugs-cheating fraud and everyone goes to have their (yellow, Livestrong style) wristbands ritualistically cut off...

Have you read David Millar's book, Racing Through The Dark? It's very good, really readable and explains a lot about the drug culture in the bad old days. It's why I trust that the Garmin-Sharp riders are all clean, and am hopeful that the other teams are predominantly clean too. If the clean riders are competitive (and they are), then there can't be anywhere near the same level of doping. Apparently the power output of the peloton these days is 10% lower than it was in Armstrong's heyday - amazing what riding clean does, no wonder once the balance tipped so many of them were doping just to keep up.