The Elderberry Pavlovas who occasionally sausage wang – a fabulous thread for 30+ ladies TTC #1 (Thread 8)

Still no AF. Bizarrely lots of CM but no more spotting since Saturday. I get the odd lower belly twinge, feel bloated a lot of the time & I think I've got v sensitive to smells but that's only cos I know it's a pg symptom. I'll be pimping again later this week.
Will try harder with temping but I get up so stupidly early (5.45 alarm) when I work in another office a couple of days a week that I have no desire to wake up at that time every day! and DP would not be a happy camper

Any signs of AF frog? Or another symptoms?

I would ignore this cycle as a practice run and start again with the BBT making sure it's always in the same place under your tongue as soon as you wake up without sitting up or moving more than you must, ideally setting an alarm at exactly the same time each day. Even if you can't bear to do that at weekends could you do it during the week?

barking they are amazing!! Totally in awe of your mouse-making skill. Beautiful.

I've told a small number of people about ttc But only after the mmc as I wanted to moan about how shit life was for a bit.

Ooo boodle and barking, nearly appointment time- hooray! I've got my 4 week blood test on weds too- thyroid levels. We shall see how these magic pills are getting on.

Still no af frog?!

Right better get moving. Good to see you back merk

If I'm not ovulating then maybe they can just give the clomid? .
merk I did get some lines on the OPKs around CD11ish onwards I think but didnt know that they were going to be it! Here is the link to my chart. I have manually discarded all the temps which were taken at wildly different times even tho FF wants to let them in & open circle others which are closer. I had a cold around CD10 for a few days which may account for the spike up there but otherwise it is just a mess! Have switched to new BBT thermometer now to get the extra decimal place.
Egg free zone?

Barking I found that article when DH and I were chatting the other night! Also found this, which I found quite interesting, although DH says not to bother mentioning anything that doesn't come from UK.

Merk It might have been me waiting impatiently for DP's SA results as we couldn't get our referral done until both results were in and we were told we had to wait for a joint appointment to discuss both our results only they then called DP and told him over the phone that his results were 'normal' a week before our appointment, leaving me stressed and assuming it was me, as well as that I could have picked up my results two weeks previously if I hadn't done as I was told and waited for a joint appointment.

There are plenty of women saying that clomid is just given as a fob off, but also a significant number saying it lengthened their LP, or brought O forward in their cycle (so same overall outcome).

This is the article I want to learn from before my FC appointment!
www.inciid.org/printpage.php?cat=infertility101&id=7

frog I was here with the start of the OPK's. have you had anything that looks like a darkish line? Even if not a positive? Have you temped? If so can I stalk your chart and give my opinion?? Remind me, had you come off the pill? Don't worry about madness, at moments in the last few weeks I have entertained the thought I am unknowingly pg (thanks bloating) despite having my period!

Oh merkin you have missed all my recent cycle trauma which I have bored everyone else with. Basically first month temping & have not had a definitive O, temps have been erratic & now AF is AWOL but have had two BFN. Cycle never been longer than 31 days before & average is 28 & today is Cd33. No idea what is happening except just want AF to turn up so can start again.

No, it's alright, Merks; Viv/Gail told a similar cautionary tale. I've sat down with DH and been through what I want from the appointment as I know I'll be a wreck on the day - if they go for Clomid, we want to know why they are prescribing it and how will it help my specific problem (the short LP) etc. I have no diagnosed issues (except the hit and miss 'no-man's land' thyroid levels). DH 2nd SA came back fine, after a slightly iffy first one. He's taking a lot more care with his health now so no reason to suspect he's got any problems.

*mice
Clearly I am back with a vengeance with multiple posts in a row filling threads at speed!

boodle that wasn't intentionally negative, sorry. You're right about it helping with LP

barking that link works and the nice are simply mega!! Wow
frog where are you in your cycle? Glad to hear the term pimping lives on in my absence... My berry claim to fame!!
boodle I know little/basically nothing however I had read that clomid is over prescribed, almost as a fob off. Can you ask loads of questions about why they think it will help with your specific issues? Do you have any diagnosed issues? Was it you waiting for DPs swimmer results a few weeks back?

S'alright, Barking! I just hope that we both get sorted out at our appointments! My ideal appointment will go like this:

"Oh yes, your thyroid is not working properly. Your doctor is a grade A pillock for not fixing this 6 months ago. Go back to her and tell her to get it sorted or I'll come down there and kick her up the backside myself. Whilst you're here, take this clomid and progesterone and combine for instant BFP."

Likely to happen?!

Damn, cross posted - and when I was trying to be more concise as well!!

Merkin - Boodle is hoping for clomid to deal with the short LP thing. I'm hoping for the same thing a week later.....

Merks, I don't know if they're going to give me clomid, but that's what my doctor reckoned would happen when she did the referral. I am ovulating though,(well, as sure as I can be) so whether that changes things, I don't know. Seems like plenty of people do get prescribed clomid, even if they do ovulate and I've read some threads where people have found that it helped with their LP.

"I've told anyone and everyone really. It's no secret."

See, I really need to be more precise. That pretty much sums up what I just said .

Pip I'm beginning to think that's the best tactic. It's not anything to be ashamed about, and it stops people saying stuff unintentionally mostly so I may get a t short printed with "yes we are fucking trying" or "I'd love a baby but my body won't get with the program"

Thx for the straw poll results ladies. I think I'm just starting to feel the need to talk to someone before the next unknowingly insensitive comment brings out a flood of tears to probably the most unsuitable person. Trouble is that the friend I'd be most likely to confide in is expecting end of this month & most of my friends have been instadiffers so just wouldn't get it. I think I'll talk to her if I do end up at the GPs for an AWOL AF. Tried pimping with an OPK later today just for kicks & that was negative too. You are not alone merk! Need to get some more HPKs as got a friends bday do on Fri so need to double check my negative before that. I was wondering how I was going to swing the sober thing without anyone noticing if I had been pg.

Try again with this link Thunder?

Frog I told my mother when we first started, but we haven't spoken about it since apart from a couple of times when I've mentioned it. We're close enough, maybe speak on the phone every week or two but we've never had one of those 'I tell my mother everything' relationships, I'd never go to her with an emotional problem, only a practical one.

After getting fed up of questions from his mother DP told his recently, and told his brother after they announced their 2nd was in the oven. I actually told DP's step mum myself last October when we'd been trying 10 months as it came out when she took me to the hairdressers and we were having a girlie chat and talking about her daughter who had her first at 41 and took 18 months to conceive (and therefore I assume she told DP's dad). We only see them once a year as they live abroad. He's since told his Dad in an offhand jokey way over Skype, so I don't feel I have to admit I'd already let the cat out of the bag!!

I told my 3 closest friends (two have children, one is also ttc #1) a while ago and since DP decided he needed to talk about it I think it's pretty much common knowledge among our local friends as they're all a pretty close group and we see them all the time. When the 1st friend in the group announced her pg recently it was at a birthday meal when someone asked why she wasn't drinking and when she said 'I'm pg' everyone laughed, then realised she wasn't joking. I suppose I want everyone to realise that if when I say I'm pg it's actually not a joke and it's a really big thing for us! It also helps ward off any potentially insensitive comments and hopefully makes the 2nd pg one (the one who duffed up twins just before their FC appointment) realise that I might find it difficult talking to her at times.

I was about to say no-one at work knows but one person actually does. They asked if I wanted children a while ago during a conversation and as I tend to have a policy of being brutally honest and if it's TMI it's their own fault for asking I just told her yes and I was trying. Not been mentioned since though. I thought she might mention it when our colleague announced her upduffment but given she apparently had no issues making either of her two girls she probably didn't realise how horrible it was for me.

I've told anyone and everyone really. It's no secret. I think about 5 people at work know, so you can be sure that damn near everyone does really.

boodle as I'm weeks behind can I have a synopsis to catch me up... They're giving you clomid? Do they think you're not O-ing??

I have decided tonight I am in awe of you berries who survive the 2ww with no pimp sticks in the house. After my monster pimping session last month where anything that could be dipped into my pot happily dipped, my cupboard is bare of sticks. I am going to have to race over to amazon for a bulk order. Not even sure if I've O'd yet (probably) but desperate to pee on something to check. Also fancy checking out my last month's early OPK line (6dpo) to see if it happens this month. Get the sausages out berries, I'm gradually going mad!!
Ps Bastard cat peed in the fireplace today. Anyone want a lovely friendly kitty???

I've told quite a few people in real-life, although only one of them talks about it regularly with me. She's a work colleague and she's been an absolute gem, to the point where she even tips me off when she suspects a pregnancy announcement is coming (too many bloody women where I work) so I can avoid the staffroom!

I have not told my mum and I don't intend to; she's pretty good about not pestering about grandchildren and I know if I told her she'd just get preoccupied with it. Best to leave her in blissful ignorance.

God I hope I get clomid on Wednesday and it works for me. (Wishful thinking no doubt - I can but dream.)