The Elderberry Pavlovas who occasionally sausage wang – a fabulous thread for 30+ ladies TTC #1 (Thread 8)

happy I've done that loads of time too. Have often been tempted to stick the stick in the loo water afterwards!
Welcome in Katniss! Hope you're prepared for a bit of a mad bunch!

Hello ladies,

Please can I join you?

I am 38, 39 in June, married with dd1 who is 4 in June.

We started ttc dc2 in may 2012 and had a Mc in August. My second, I had a Mc before I had dd.

My cycles are changing and I had the 20 day progesterone test last week which showed that I did ovulate but I am spotting about 4 days before after arrives and this month started spotting from 8dpo and my lp was only 10 days, last month was 13...

My gp is referring me to the fertility clinic but I am very impatient because time is of through essence...

I would love to join you all as I've had amazing support over the last 5 years from mn and feel like I need it very much at the moment...

I will bring cupcakes, off to try baking some caramel ones today!

Ladies I'm finally losing the plot! Got my lovely pot and an ic out this morning ready to pimp. Then, due to being half asleep thinking about what I have to do in work today, I completely forgot to pimp and instead weed all my FMU straight down the loo. Doh! Luckily I don't actually suspect I'm upduffed or that would be really frustrating! Have a good day all!

I basically don't want to end up diffed with another one that won't stick after 9 weeks. Been there, done that, been in hospital, don't really want to do it again unless I've been checked out first.

It's all to do with our great dislike of condoms. We do still dtd, but I really don't enjoy it as much, so I don't initiate it as much.
It's also becasue of DH's stupid hours. This week he's on earlies so he went to bed at 9 and I've been sewing all evening. God I'm such an old fart!!!

I'm crying with laughter reading the yoni thread!

Tally I might have missed something by why can't you DTD before your FC appointment?

tally good first chart. Tiny word of warning that it could potentially have O one day early. The first cycle's the worst as no comparisons so a bit unknown and doesnt tell you much but compared to my first cycle temping yours is textbook!!
cats assuming the K town. I gave up smoking in Nov, (not sure if that's relevant) and yes I get v ranty about pregnant smokers too

Tally - that's terrible service from your doctors. I went into my surgery and asked if they knew and the receptionist was lovely. She trotted off upstairs to the secretaries and then they said they'd call hospital to chase it up for me. They then rang me later that day to tell me what the hospital had said. Could you try ringing again tomorrow and hope you speak to someone else?

Merks that bloody yoni thread is ridiculous! Dare say it'll be in classics soon; they couldn't possibly delete it!

Night night berries heading to bed! Got in a little while ago and DH asleep, so no action anyway... I shall insist tomorrow!
Sorry that your appointment entailed more waiting, boodle. It must be small consolation, but you are in the system now.
smoothas congrats on peak dtd! How many days of high did you have beforehand?
Was in town (near you, merk), and saw a pg young woman walking along, fag in hand. Is this suddenly socially acceptable? I wanted to say something to her, but she looked as though she'd slap me. Maybe I've answered my own question.

This is my first month of temping and think I've come out of it quite well. I'm on CD29 and AF is due in 3 days, and this is my chart link... hope this works...

However, I'm going to go all ranty now too. I called the doctor to see if they had any idea when my fc appt would come up and they said it's nothing to do with them any more and to phone the hospital. So I phoned them and was given the run-around because the secretary is on holiday, outpatients hasn't heard of me and they wouldn't put me through to anyone else. So I'm now in limbo until the secretary gets back next week some time. I almost wish I hadn't been referred now. I can't continue with the dtd as usual, because I know full well that I could fall any month (never had that kind of problem, it's the hanging on to it that is...) so now we're just not doing it and we're getting all snappy with each other. We don't like using condoms so just tend not to go for it as often. Grrrrr for the NHS... Hmph.

Yeah, my luteal phase varies between 7 and 9. 9 is the most common though.

Hmm...need to do some mode, median, mean and range work at school soon. Perhaps the kids could analyse my charts for me!

The name changes on the Yoni thread have had me in tears. SmacktheYoni and ForYourEyesYoni

(Disclaimer - that progesterone information has only been gleaned online and may not be at all accurate!)

Damn, Merks, I was going to do something productive like play Words with Friends and now I'm going to be reading that thread!

Mother was using progesterone cream. I tried it last month but I just spotted LOADS all through luteal phase. Used the recommended quantities too, but felt like perhaps that wasn't right for me. You have to be careful with it as too little can screw your body up and stop it producing its own.

boodle I think you have a 9 day LP and not 8. For sure you're not pregnant but 9 days isn't bad at all!

Haha Merks I read the Yoni thread earlier. Hilarious!!

Merks, I sometimes entertain myself with thoughts of suddenly finding out that I'm 6 months gone and I'm just a medical anomaly to have carried on with periods. No arguing with my AF though...I'm surprised my reproductive organs manage to hang on sometimes, let along a teeny tiny little embryo.

I have no (useful) charts for you to analyse, given that I am on CD4 (I hate CD1 - CD8. Crappy, pointless, waiting game time.)

Go on, I'm pregnant, aren't I?

1 final thing before I stop thread hogging (you can come out now as I'm off to bed). Please read the thread about 'Yoni massage' in most active/chat. Even if just the last page doing song lyrics!! Do it quick as its bound to get deleted!!

Thanks wise berries - if tomorrow's fc apptointment doesn't suggest the miracle cure I know they have up their sleeve ;-) then will give temping a go, just so I can join in the fun! Sounds like some pretty rubbish FC apts today though - am feeling yr frustration. 3 mths just seems so long to wait once yr in the system. Bummer.

barking boodle wasn't mother taking something pre her BFP to lengthen LP?

boodle great minds give the same temping advice!! Also ignore numbers on FF, remember my crazy temps last month and FF could only find 8 charts or something equally crap the same as mine then I got my BFP. It's not just how many people on FF did that happen to, but also the subsection who choose to share their charts. Maybe people with short LPs don't like go share

I'm missing having charts to analyse( give me chart links!!). I need to go back and confirm but think I was more right than FF's prediction on Gail's chart!
I have no idea if I O'd this month thanks to using all OPKs as pregnancy tests last cycle and ignoring the thermometer. Would be my first anovulatory cycle I've had if so. It cant be implantation bleeding starting so early, however my crazy ray of hope (we all convince ourselves of these things don't we?) is that last cycle I definitely implanted super early, I had IP/spotting on 5dpo, positive OPK on either 6 or 7 and BFP 2 days later. In all honesty, I believe it's either (prepare for madness); BFP coming (FX), actually pregnant from last cycle [crazy emoticon], or a cyst (or worse). I occasionally have fleeting thoughts about being one of those people who doesn't realise they're pregnant until they 'shit a baby down the loo' or equivalent but suspect that's not going to be me this month

Wimwom, shift work is a tricky one. I guess what I'd try to do, if it were me, is set alarm to take temp 30 minutes before I have to get up, whenever that may be. You can always try it for a month and see if a pattern emerges anyway?

Barking, as a free member of FF, you can still do certain chart searches, including charts with short LP leading to pregnancy. Follow Merk's link, and click search. (If you're not logged in already, you'll need to do it once you click search).

Then the search page will come up. For category, choose pregnancy, and then in key words, search for short luteal phase. I've done this lots. It doesn't reassure me much though, as there aren't loads and loads of them, plus quite a few just look like iffy charters with arguable Ov dates!

wim go with exactly what I said. Assuming you sleep for at least 3 hours before you get up on any day simply set your alarm 30 mins (or 10 at the worst) earlier than you need to, temp and then snooze til you get up. You may need to lie to FF about the time you take your temp each day (tell it they're all 8am) to get it to accept them, but it will work just the same