The Elderberry Pavlovas are pimping everyday – a lovely thread for 30+ ladies TTC #1 (Thread 7)

Bloody hell, Cherry, what crap news to have to hear. It's just not fair. I really hope that your BUPA appointment and whatever follows will bring you options and possibilities.

Frog, definitely get a proper 2 decimal place BBT thermometer; as Barking said, the rounding up/down could be hiding a clearer pattern for you. Also, is it not possible to take your temperature at the same time? I take mine 45 mins before my 'get up' time and I fall straight back asleep. I appreciate though that once some people are awake, that's it. On the OPK front, it took me 3 or 4 months of using them to get my first positive! I've found that I need to do my test early/mid afternoon and I have to refrain from drinking anything after about 8am for my urine to then be concentrated enough! Keep trying and use 2-3 a day to start off with.

Bunny - how are you doing on that sofa? So sorry you're feeling bad.

Oh Cherry no.
What is the next step?

Merk how are you doing?

Thanks guys, feeling a bit floored TBH, DP gutted too but being amazing. Just cuts to the quick to hear those words. Feeling numb but hoping all not lost :(

frog I've got this one.

cherry hope you're doing ok and managing to hold it together until Monday

Oh cherry so sorry to read your news, hugs!

Feel bad now whinging at my impending witch!

Oh Cherry so sorry to hear that you've had bad news. Good that you're seeing someone quickly. I know nothing about this diagnosis but hope there is a way forward. .Take care.

Oh my god Cherry, that is one fucked up diagnosis, I'm so sorry. Are there chances to fix it or work around it in some way or don't you know yet?

Thanks barking. I am taking temp as soon as I wake up but I get up at two different times during the week when I work in different places! The "proper" ones are about 6am & the open circles about 7am I think. I have had a bit of a cold this month so that could have affected some of them I suppose.

Noted about the thermometer. I bought it without realising it should be a special BBT one so thought I'd see how it went before spending more money! I'll order one online for next month & see if it makes a difference.

Just noticed all your temps are to one decimal point, if you don't have a more accurate thermometer it would be worth getting one as you don't know what's being rounded up or down. You could get a very different picture. I've been temping 9 months now and a lot of the time my temps are moving up and down it's within a decimal point.

frog you've got a lot of open circles, how far out from the normal time are they? Are you taking your temperature as soon as you wake up without moving? It's possible that O was CD9 as you say but I think a whole month will show a pattern better.

Oh my goodness cherry that's horrible . Wouldn't even have considered that a possibility at our age. Hopefully they are wrong. Glad they're rushing everything through and fx crossed you get some answers and a positive way forwards on Monday. Look after yourself. Hope DP is being supportive.

Oh Cherry I'm so sorry. And there's me worrying about one month when I'm struggling to find an O when at least AF is still visiting so I know that something is happening. I'm such a selfish cow. Fingers crossed that the NHS have got it wrong & that BUPA / fertility clinic can come up with something for you. and big hugs. Hope DP is looking after you.

Crap crap crap. Had my apt this morning for my blood test results. Suspected primary ovarian failure leading to premature menopause is the diagnosis.

Off to BUPA hospital on Monday for a second opinion, Dr organising us a rush apt at the fertility clinic, DP getting referral for semen analysis. More bloods. Lots of tears. Fuckety shite.

Not sure I inserted that link properly so just in case:

Longing for the days when the elusive O meant something so different

Here you go:

FertilityFriend.com/home/430fb8/

Looking at it I guess my coverline could be around 36.1, O could have been CD9 onwards & I just missed it on the OPK if it was a v short surge. That would just make my CD15 temp a bit of an aberration for some reason & 36.3 my normal post O temp.

I would go along with that explanation except I haven't seen anything ressembling EWCM though or even watery CM & I know I do get it sometimes. Guess it's a keep on with the OPKs & wait & see what happens next month!

This is cycle 5 of TTC properly i.e. sticking AF dates in an app to try & predict O but only cycle 1 of temping & OPKs (& using FF instead of the other apps tho I did input the previous 4 cycles of AF data into FF). I've been getting faint lines for about a week now but they don't seem to get any darker. I've sent my chart link to my e-mail so will post that up when it comes through & you can all have a good nosy analysis.

How long have you been ttc and is this your first cycle temping? With the temping alone it can take a couple of cycles to spot the pattern. From what I have read the opks can be easy to miss sometimes. Last cycle was my first with the opks and I only got one positive, when I tested in the evening. Have you had any faint lines which might indicate it's on it's way? I used the stupidly expensive cbfm so I overlapped this with starting on the opks which meant I had a clear idea of when I was expecting the opk to be positive which was a bit like cheating really! merk is the currently resident but soon to be merely visiting expert on opks.
General advice seems to be you have to wait a year of ttc before referral to a clinic, but in some places if you're over 35 or can prove a problem they will refer you after 6 months.
Also, not everyone ovulates every month so hold off the panic if you can!
Have you got a link to a chart we could all stare have a look at?

Home Delivery was actually quite nice in the end - the midwife was lovely & it was actually quite a good advert for home births if when I get there.

CD17 today & still no sign of O . Tested yesterday evening & this morning & no second line & no temp rise so I don't think I've missed it. Given DP didn't get home till 1.15am & I got up at 6am so there was def no DTD it's good in that respect but given my average cycle is 28 days if I haven't got any signs of O by the weekend then I'm in the short LP club aren't I? (Monday would be 9 days) If no sign of O at all this cycle then should I book a drs appt? I'm 36 so they shouldn't make me wait 12m for a referral right?

Sorry for all the questions but I am getting a bit down & worried about it all now. I really wasn't expecting to find this out when I started temping & PIMPing

Oh no bunny sorry to hear that
cherry that's just it, I can't send her a fb message as I can't even find her, which means I must have been blocked not just de friended. Most bizarre. Maybe it's because I didn't comment on her pg but we found out by text and DP replied by text, I didn't see the need to get involved.

Anyone got snow this morning?

Tummy ache this morning really fecked off and trying not to cry

She sounds like the barking one TBH Barking I'd either let it go without comment or possibly send her an innocent friend request with a 'I don't know wht happened, duh Facebook, would be nice to stay in touch and hear about your stoopid updates' type message. From what you've said she seems fickle and flighty so try not to take it personally!

I'm so pleased your apt went well cats. Hurrah for lovely consultant! Dildo cam, not so much, but at least it'll get you some answers and will be a means to an end even if the prospect is not so attractive!

Bunny that's great. I can't really help on the technical know-how but like you say it's sure to be about your hormone profile at different times of your cycle and whether you OV or not.

I hope I can actually get to the docs for snow this morning phone consultations are much more tricky...

that's very odd. I don't understand people doing that at the time that they need support from friends and family the most!

My SiL (well, DP's SiL) appears to have blocked me on fb. I'd hidden her updates from my newsfeed so I didn't have to read all the pregnancy updates, but DP said she'd been poorly and was in hospital for fluids as she'd been sick (not pg related apparently) so I looked to see if she'd posted anything today and I couldn't find her! She's not in my friends list and when I searched for her name she didn't come up! She's still there on DP's fb. No idea what's going on, I haven't been in touch with her since we visited at Christmas, and that's normal. Trying to not get worked up about it but it's annoying because I can't find out without asking directly and I don't want to start anything. This is the woman that didn't speak to her father in law for years because of a tiny thing he did that no one else could see a problem with.