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Can I have some help please? Day 21 test showed I didn't ovulate

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QuietNinjaTardis · 12/03/2013 10:45

Ok got my results today. Everything normal apart from progesterone which indicated I didn't ovulate. Thyroid fine. All the other hormones fine. I normally get what I believe is ovulation pain and I must admit I didn't last month so I'm hoping its just an abnormal month for me. Obviously she wants me to repeat the day 21 tests this month and next month to check.
If it happens that I'm not ovulating then what could it be? She doesn't suspect pcos as the other hormones were fine and I don't have any symptoms of that anyway.
Dh gotta give a sample next but might take a couple of months for appointment to come through. So bit in limbo at the mo for a bit now. Still dtd. Trying to keep calm and keep shagging Smile feeling a bit blue though.

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QuietNinjaTardis · 15/03/2013 14:14

Whoop whoop. Get shagging! X

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Mummytothearkbuilder · 15/03/2013 13:10

Got a darker 2nd line today - yay!! At least my body is working after the miscarriage x

QuietNinjaTardis · 15/03/2013 09:19

You too mummy xx

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Mummytothearkbuilder · 15/03/2013 08:44

Thanks hun - keep me posted on how you are going. Good luck xx

QuietNinjaTardis · 15/03/2013 08:35

Think weve been trying since may or june. Feels like forever. Fingers crossed youre on your way to a positive opk too.

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Mummytothearkbuilder · 14/03/2013 21:30

We have been trying since may last year - I went to the doctors just before Christmas and they said I wasn't ovulating (based in day 21 test) but then got a positive pregnancy test on 13th Jan so I must have ovulated at some point!!

After my last post I did my OPK and got a second line but it is lighter than the control line so don't think it's a positive - going to dtd tonight anyway - hopefully ovulation is on the way - it's a month tomorrow since my miscarriage so ovulation would be a step in the right direction!! X

QuietNinjaTardis · 14/03/2013 18:19

Thanks mummy. You might have just missed the surge? It's easily done I've heard. Fingers crossed for you and for me. How long have you been ttc?

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Mummytothearkbuilder · 14/03/2013 17:50

That's fab news!! So chuffed - that sounds like a good plan - I think following a positive OPK you should dtd for at least the next 3 days so tonight tomorrow and Saturday then have a little break when your friends are over and a cheeky dtd on Monday should have you covered Wink - please report back as I need to hear some positive stories - I'm 27 days into my cycle and still no positive OPK.

Good luck hun Smile xx

QuietNinjaTardis · 14/03/2013 11:33

Ok just bumping to say I got a positive opk just now so if we dtd today, tomorrow and Saturday we should have it covered yes? We can't do Sunday as having friends over but if we dtd mon and possibly Tuesday then if I do ovulate we should have it pretty much covered do you think? I'm Determined this month will be it! I don't want loads of tests so I am gonna get pregnant this month. wish me luck ladies! And good luck to al those still trying too x

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Mummytothearkbuilder · 13/03/2013 09:28

Bluer - it's great to hear a positive outcome!! Congrats on your pregnancy! X

bluer · 13/03/2013 09:25

Everything crossed for you! We were starting to get despondent...referred for testing etc and ironically it was when if more or less given up that it happened. If there's no obvious cause it may be just luck. One thing I think is that we dtd much later in the cycle than usual...I think previous months I'd burnt dh out in the week I'd ov and then pretty much stop for the tww...as we weren't trying we were being much more random.

QuietNinjaTardis · 13/03/2013 08:57

Ah congrats bluer. I'd love that to happen but its not likely. Not having much luck with anything at the mo. aargh

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bluer · 13/03/2013 07:59

Another one whose levels didn't indicate ovulation despite days being spot on for my cycle...first result was 16 the second month it was 12, I thought I was maybe late but the doc wouldn't test add she said there was no chance I could be pregnant...17 Weeks atm x

QuietNinjaTardis · 13/03/2013 07:32

Oh mummy I'm sorry about your miscarriage. What gits to push back further investigations. I really hope things work out for you too x

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Mummytothearkbuilder · 12/03/2013 20:25

Hi quietninja - I am in a similar position to you and feeling very frustrated!! I have a DS who is 4 in April and we have been trying for almost a year. I had the same tests as you towards the end of last year and was told that based on my day 21 test I wasn't ovulating however 3 weeks after the results I discovered that I was pregnant (I discovered very early on however I miscarried at 6 weeks Hmm) but I must have ovulated late - surely?? When I asked the doctor for an explanation they just shrugged - helpful!!!

I have now been told that I won't have any further investigation for another year as I managed to fall pregnant however I will be going back in 6 months to push for some further tests or referral as I have discovered that you have to be forceful!!

I also have endometriosis but when I mentioned this to the GP they didn't really think it was an issue?!?

Good luck lovely - hope it works out for you and don't be worried about being forceful Smile xx

QuietNinjaTardis · 12/03/2013 19:36

Thanks bearface. Think I will ask for a referral ASAP to try and get some answers properly. Hope you get your referral soon x

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Bearface · 12/03/2013 19:14

Hi QuietNinja - this happened to me and on my second set of tests I did then ovulate. Since then we've had problems with DH's SA and should now be referred to a fertility specialist. But when I asked the doctor after the first set of results, no lie, she just shrugged her shoulders at me and said to redo the test. She said, 'Could be anything'. So helpful. Bloody chocolate teapot. Angry I found out more from Dr Google and from the lovely ladies on here than I did from my GP.

As others have said and you've experienced, I think some GPs are completely clueless and you need a specialist. Just thought I'd share my experience and to say you're not alone.

It could be that you just had an anovulatory cycle as another poster mentioned. Unfortunately I didn't realise this and GP didn't explain this might be the case so I went home thinking I couldn't have children and grieved for a few hours before DH arrived home with Dr Google. I hadn't even been able to bring myself to look as I was so upset. Maybe this makes me really dim and naive, but if only she'd said. Anyway, waiting for referral now so can get away from clueless GPs. Hope you get some answers soon.

QuietNinjaTardis · 12/03/2013 17:53

I didn't realise it was that common. Could it have anything to do with not ovulating or is it to separate potential problems?

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 12/03/2013 17:00

My periods have always been painful as well QuietNinjaTardis both during and up to and including menses. You've previously been dx'd with endo as well via a previous lap op.

Any pain that is cylical in nature and gets worse up to and including menses should be checked out properly to see if endo is present.

Not too surprised at your GPs comments; some are truly ignorant when it comes to endo. I took one of them to task post diagnosis when he had the audacity to tell me that endo was not common; I replied that it was the second most common gynae problem seen in women after fibroids.

willitbe · 12/03/2013 16:43

I would not bother with the amh test, it does not show fertility. A good number can indicate lots of eggs but that does not mean that they are good enough quality to get pregnant by, and conversely a bad number indicating few eggs left does not mean no pregnancy there still could be that one golden egg that leads to successful pregnancy.

The only real use for the amh test is in terms of ivf where they use it to indicate likely responsiveness to the treatment.

But agree that you should see if you cn get referral to fertility consultant.

QuietNinjaTardis · 12/03/2013 15:46

Thanks gin. Will do. Really appreciate you lot talking to me Thanks

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GinAndSlimlinePlease · 12/03/2013 15:35

Sorry, but your gp is talking shit! Get a referral straight to a gynae, the sooner you get an by an expert the better.

I hope it all resolves itself.

QuietNinjaTardis · 12/03/2013 15:17

Oh this is shit. Must admit I lost my faith a bit when she told me that you always come on 14 days after you ovulate with out fail! I challenged her on that and she did say to me today that she had looked into it and I was correct in that it is not true. So shall I have the next day 21 and then when I get results ask if I can be referred onwards?
She doesn't seem to think endo is a possibility as I'm not in horrific pain all the time. My periods are painful and always have been and ovulation is definitely giving me pain but doesn't hurt during sex or anything.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 12/03/2013 14:43

"Gp said a scan will pick up any large bits of endometriosis".

Smiled wryly at that comment of hers. A skilled sonographer may detect endometrioma aka "chocolate cysts" but won;t detect anything in the uterine cavity or other areas like for instance the bladder or pouch of douglas.

My endo fwiw was all over my uterine cavity like a lot of paint splats and that was not detected at all till I had the laparoscopic type surgery. Would also state that endo can recur so you are wise to be looking into this further. Would certainly mention to the gynae when you see such a person that you've previously had endometriosis diagnosed.

GP should refer you as of now to my mind. Secondary subfertility is not that uncommon I am sorry to say.

QuietNinjaTardis · 12/03/2013 14:01

Thanks gin. Ill ask for a referral after the next day 21 test. Will also see about the amh test. We could possibly go private for some things so will look into it.
We don't have known fertility issues but have been trying for quite a while with no success so went to gp to get ball rolling. We have one ds who is 3 and got pregnant really quickly with him and nothing is happening this time.

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