Excellent Egg Buddies continued! Anyone having IVF/ICSI in Jan, Feb and March 2013 please join us!

Oh I'm going every half hour at least at work. They must think I'm extremely weak bladdered. Nothing exciting to report for tomorrow from me. More sniffing. I'm getting good at it now.

norf I guess the fat lady snuck in when I wasn't looking eh ? Am really sorry to hear that. How many frosties do you have ? Yep, just checked n the fridge and it's otrivelle. It will now torture me until it's Trigger Time, which is like a shit Hammer Time I suspect.

shazza it 2-3 litres per day I think. I manage 2 litres of water but any more than that and it feels as though I spend half my life on the dunny.

A great big hello to everyone else lurking on this thread today. Any more goings on tomorrow to report in ?

Noks x

Dear Northey to say I'm sorry just isn't enough. Keep strong and don't give up. It will happen one day if not this time xxxx

I was on 300 of Gonal F as well. It seems like a lot, but just wait for ovitrelle (if you are using that for your trigger). It is a whole pen in one go, and you are depressing that plunger for what seems like hours! Most unnerving...

I've started very lightly bleeding today (having stopped pessaries since yesterday morning), so I think my last tiny hopes of period not turning up and me getting a late positive from a blood test have pretty much died. I've emailed the clinic to report my bfn and ask how soon I can go onto a frozen cycle, and I guess they'll get back to me tomorrow.

Funny you should say that cause I've got a headache today and am counting the number of pints I drink today. Weekdays I usually drink about 2 litres plus a couple of cups of herbal tea but at weekends it's less. How much am I supposed to be drinking? I'm weeing ALL the time! I also feel abit crampy but AF is due next week on the 6th so it could be that.

Mr S is being sweet. He keeps asking how I'm feeling.

I think I'm on the same dose of gonal f as you. I haven't thought that far ahead yet though. Blimey it feels like a mountain to climb sometimes doesn't it? Xx

Hmmmmmm, well it's not my favourite thing in the world but it's actually ok once the damn thing goes in fnarr. I am on one injection a day but quite a high dose I think (Gonal F 300).

How is the dreaded DR'ing going ? Are you feeling ok ? Make sure you drink plenty of water. Is Monsieur Shazza looking after you (obviously not right now because he's out but generally ) ?

Nxx

Brilliant well done Noks. We can all rest easy now . How's the dreading stabbing going? How many do you need to do a day? X

That I have booted that fatty all the way to the pie shop and told her not to show her three chins around here ever again.

Euro I reckon take it day by day and see what happens at the scan.Noks sent the fat lady to Greggs anyway so she's out of the picture for a while stuffing herself with pasties.

I reckon it counts, scarlett.

(BTW to clarify my earlier post, I'm here this week, scan on Thurs, then supposed to do two trips - one the next week, and another to the US the week after. I'll wait for bleed/scan but I think I am going to have to cancel.)

It's chicken, definitely! Especially with mayo (egg) and ketchup (cooked tomatoes good for lycopene antioxidants enjoy! Xx

Um regarding a request from OH - would we say KFC is part of a high protein diet?

Oh euro that would be terrible. Can you avoid going away?

Dildals I've just remembered that my friend y'day said that when she finally found out she was pg after 6 goes her 1st thought was oh my god what have I done? Have we done the right thing? She felt guilty for that after all that time and effort (and money I'm guessing) so don't worry, what you are feeling is normal. I hope you are relaxing into it all anyway. X

Nok I love the Greggs comment - brilliant.

I am really sceptical as to whether sex/orgasms can have any bad effect (although waiting a few days after ET for the cervix to close is probably not a bad idea because of the infection risk). Many people who get pg the traditional way don't know that they are pg for a few weeks so carry on as normal with no consequences. However, I have to say every time it happened, I did have a mental image of emBarryo shouting "EARTHQUAKE" and running for cover. :)

Scarlett I love the gardening analogy. I was strangely proud of my follie.

Thanks ladies. My (few) symptoms are fading. I only really had fizzy boobs and insomnia. The boobs are still painful but only in the way that they are during the 2ww, not like they were a week ago. The insomnia is also easing a bit. And the cramps started the day after the scan. They are not really getting worse, but I reckon it is only the cyclogest holding back the bleeding. The timing is a bit of a nightmare because I am supposed to be away for work for the next two weeks. If I am told to stop the cyclogest at my next scan on Thursday, I am going to have to cancel as I could miscarry at any point after that and I really don't want to be somewhere foreign where I don't speak the language and away from Mr Euro when it happens.

Please report back on your research findings noks .

There must have been something in the air last night. DP and I also did the deed but (TMI alert) I felt abit tender inside. Im only 4 days in but something definitely feels different inside.

What are all your plans for today? DP going to the studio so I'm at home, radio on, doing all the things I never get chance to do. List as long as my arm!

I have no idea if what I'm doing makes any difference but as well as lots of squash [which is nice hot too instead of tea] but I'm improvising on a morning latte using whole milk and decaf millicano, plus eating 2 eggs and at least 1 portion of cheese... And I'm taking maca & bees pollen as well as q10 and all the other normal supplements...

My friend brought round some ready made mocktails from sainsburys last night that were lovely btw, we had mojitos & peach bellinis

6!! Wow Sharon. But goes to show it can be worth plugging or stabbing away.

Pin cushion here too, Scarlett esp after nurse botched up blood taking yesterday, so I had both arms and then two bits of the tummy. at you feeling proud of you lovely follies. What are you doing to encourage even growth? I'm just drinking and weeing loads, plus protein. BTW when's your EC likely to be? Dh boozed up? Grr, that's unfair :)

norf yay for booze etc,

I googled and some people say no sex from stimms to 8w, others say have sex night before ET, others to have sex night of the trigger, others no orgasms. What we need is a controlled orgasm trial!

Ps hello everyone else

honty hope you're having fun - at least you have plenty to take your mind off it all a bit

choc woohoo 1 on board, everything crossed for you!

keep I started the ov-stopping one yesterday at the clinic, so now I have a 10am tummy jab and 2 x 8pm thigh jabs - feeling a tad pincushionesque!

northey typing out an email will help you get it into order in your head, sometimes I write things as a letter before I ring people re work so I know I've got all my points across...

sharon I don't think I've got 6 in me! If this doesn't work [#2] them maybe another at a later point in time but 6! Bless her though, good for her...

euro I read something once, I think it's a mantra for recurrent miscarriers, 'today, I am pregnant' which as it stands you are, maybe think of it that way each day for now?

AFM I have a delightfully hungover OH in bed stinking the room out with beer fumes and kebab farts so I have taken my Sunday morning lie in to the sofa with the puppydog on my knee and penguins on the tv

I feel a bit like a gardener, I'm very proud of my growing follies and am thinking of new ways to encourage further growth and not let any fall behind

norf hurrah for raised blood alcohol levels and messy sexy times ! Am glad you did something for you and Mr Norf. X

Morning honeys

shazzamatazza step away from the interweb and do not google any more horror stories about down regging ! Naughty Shazza. Dr Google is soooo bad -yet strangely addictive also-- and can have you whipped up into a frenzy. And not in a good way. Sounds as though you had an interesting time at your friend's memorial - at least it didn't make you emotional in a counter-productive way (as we are all a but vulnerable at the moment). You never know, it could have been your friend's way of helping you to feel ok about what you're going through, even though she's not here anymore. I reckon many more people than we realise have had treatment and have had to fight to become parents so we shouldn't feel freakish or marginalised by needing a bit of a helping hand. I am glad you're feeling positive though which us a very bloody useful feeling to have when you're DR'ing !

euro don't give up hope yet. Embarryo may just be a slow developer. I have given the fat lady a voucher for Greggs and told her to do one for a bit on here. Srs. Am intrigued by the to orgasm/not to orgasm debate as it a bloody long time not to have one if all this goes to plan. I shall investigate further.

Happy Sunday y'all.

Noks x

Well done choco! Are you going to test throughout the wait, or leave it till the end?

hont, are you testing again? Any news today?

euro, you sound remarkably restrained about the wine. I would have been very peeved to see my nice bottles disappearing.

I also had sff last night. It was whilst very drunk, so was rather... prolonged, but it was nice to do. We passed out before we could even clean up But hurrah for booze and hurrah for sex, both of which I think we really needed.

Hi euro
I know. In not sure I could manage 6. I'm just concentrating on this one. I had no plan beyond this go but now I know that I have to see it as potentially a longer journey and that all my eggs are not necessarily in this basket if you know what I mean.

I hope you are wrong about it being over. Barryo is hanging on in there. Here's to hoping he keeps on growing. x

honty We weren't told anything like that. Mind you, the ick of the cyclogest slowed us down considerably! I have to say though, the first proper sff in more than 2 years, high on preggo hormones was absolutely fucking amazing.

BTW, when I was horny as hell during the 2ww I stumbled across this thread www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9452.0 The advice given by clinics differs hugely. So I decided to just go for it. And it doesn't seem to have done any harm. Embarryo might not be developing properly, but he seems to be stuck fast.

Hurrah choco. And now the wait begins...

sharon - 6 goes. Wow. I'm not sure I will have the mental strength to keep going for that long. We said 3 natural/mild cycles in 6 months at the outset. It's not set in stone but for us it was good to have a set point where we would take a step back and reassess.

Thanks ladies. I did have a nice day yesterday. Went for a run, watched Three Colours: White and then Mr Euro and shooting friend came back for dinner in the evening. They caned their way through rather a lot of (my really nice) wine. I watched. I am 99% sure it's all over, but until I start bleeding I suppose I better act pregnant. Meh.

Morning ladies
I was off radar y'day, more of that in a bit.

Delilah so lovely to hear that you are feeling a little bit better. It will take a while but I'm glad you and DH have a more positive plan for the future. Loads of love to you both.

Honty NYC sounds amazing but I'm so sorry for the bfn. Fingers crossed it is abit too early for you. Can you hold out til OTD now? When are you back?

Noks yay well done for stimming. I was worried that we hadn't heard from you and maybe something awful had happened at the scan. But I was obsessed that day about reading about women who didn't respond to DR so there was abit of projection there. Phew! ( and I've stopped googling)

Choco great news you have your little one on board. That is so exciting. Keeping everything crossed.

North, Vall are you 2 ok?

Keep, scarlett, Fairy, euro, dildals hello to you all.

This is long but I just wanted to quickly tell you. Y'day I went to a memorial for a college friend. There were people who I hadn't seem for 20 yrs. whilst chatting, 1 woman mentioned her 3 yr old twins who she had fought so hard to get and of course I knew immediately. To cut a long story short. We ended up talking about it and she said she was successful on her 6th go. Blimey! I wasn't sure I would be ever be able to try for that long and everyone is different and of course finances are a massive sticking point for us but now my eyes are open to the fact that we should never give up. The whole afternoon taught me that life is for embracing and never giving up on your dreams. My friend who passed was a year older than me leaving 3 children under 4. It is tragic but it was such a positive and lovely afternoon. In a strange way I had a great day and feel full of positivity today. Sending some your way.

Love shaz xxxxx