TTC 10+ months Part 13

Sea - oh I am so sorry. It completely sucks but they say you need to give iui 3 or 4 goes. That's of no comfort of course but now to think about the next one.

Rabbit - thanks for all your lovely words. I must say I want to jump on a train with an official poas and give it to you. Something almightily suspicious is going on with you and it's looking exciting and intriguing. But I know carrot dangling after this long is not helpful and it's often easier to assume the worst.. I thought opk measure LH not hcg or is it the same thing? I don't know how you can stand the not knowing mind you. Really really praying that sth good is going on.

Euro - af cramping is good. It's disconcerting but often just implantation pains. I spoke to several women on otd and we all had strong period pains and of course I thought I was on my period.

Waves to everyone and thanks for being so kind and supportive. Scan tomorrow but have quit with some of the drugs as I can't hack them anymore.

Joy ? I am thinking of you. You don?t deserve this heartache. It?s all been said before. You are a v strong lady. I am hoping for a miracle for you and that they find a HB on Friday.

Euro ? You are having the blood test today no? Hope the cramp has improved. I am wishing for a sticky bean for you. We deserve some good news on this thread.
Doll ? Not long till your test date?

Rabbit ? Sorry for the odd cycle. Weird cycles can really drive one crazy? I too love bikram yoga but I stopped at the advice of my consultant. Now just jivamukti, hatha or iygenar for me.

I have loved really all your non-TTC update. Great to read about your lives and not just TTC tales.

Mine ? Married 3 & half years, together for almost 7. I love yoga, reading and learning. I work for myself. Am doing a masters degree (was tempted not to in case I got pregnant, thank goodness I didn?t). I love cats but don?t have one as Mr Sea doesn?t like them. We made a deal that when I get pregnant I can have a cat and he can get a dog. Until then it?s just me and Mr Sea and my MIL(only now & again!)

Re TTC, I am afraid it?s bad news. I didn?t even get to my OTD (this Sat) ? feel cheated. My period came this morning. I haven?t actually done a test yet because I have no pee pee (had already been when period arrived). I know in my heart that it?s a BFN though? Not least because I have terrible period pains. Even though I knew the chances of getting a BFP through IUI was v small the 1st time round, it?s hard not to feel sad. There?s nothing like 42 cycles of BFN to make me feel really barren.

joy I'm thinking of you and really hoping there is a hb on Friday.
Euro I second Artemis on the cramps. Had the same thing for weeks. And best of sticky thoughts for you.
Waves to you all.

Rabbits very bizarre hormonal trip continues. Today is technically cd11 and had red bleeding on and off all day which appears to now have gone back to spotting. Euro you did indeed plant a seed so I looked at lots of old charts last night. My pre ov range is 97.15-97.60 and post ov 97.75 to 98.5 temps have not fallen below 97.87 but aren't in their highest range. So I weed on an opk as that's all I have and it's a very dark positive. now, it is possible I'm about to ov in what is a higher temp bleedy cycle. But no ewcm. I don't have sore boobs or feel 'pregnant' whatever that might feel like, no boob veins! So am presuming I'm having another hormonal blip and will monitor situation. How very fucking worrying. But I won't test til I've missed another period. As nelly says, I only get ducks.

Joy. I am thinking of you and sending you a big hug.

I am also in a corner quietly muttering sticky chants for euro.

Rabbit I'm certainly not going to encourage you to test after my arctic piss stick today, but I'll still watch with interest. I know what you mean though. When I started bleeding the day before my IVF test, lovely euro told me the story of her friend who had the IVF period followed by the IVF baby. But I know, for me, if it looks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's most definitely not a baby

I am now officially on CD1. Accompanied by nasty period pains. And wine.

Rabbit - goodness me, goodness me. Sorry for the weirdy cycle, I agree that poas may be useful. Oh honey, sorry for the confusion.

Joy - thinking of you lots. I am glad you feel ok today but you can cry or scream on here any time.

Euro - hooray for 2nd stripey hob nob.

Buzz I am sorry for the late ovulation, all unsettling I know. Concentrate on your plans, you are doing amazingly. You being is mum is a certainty.

Nelly - sorry to you also for the weird cycle.

Me 33, nhs worker. I like music, larking about, red wine, prosecco, chocolate, seafood, seaside, junk and vintage shops and facinated by the Kennedy dynasty.

Hello to all

Just popping on quickly to say Euro don't worry about the cramps, they are a Good Thing. The night before my blood test I was woken up at 2am by fierce AF-style cramps and was convinced that meant it was all over. Turns out it is your uterus stretching as the embie beds in. I have had them on and off ever since but particularly in the first 6-8 weeks. As long as cramps don't come at regular intervals like contractions and are not accompanied by bleeding you are fine.

Rabbit the bleeding does make it sound unlikely but those high temps are very suspicious and some women do bleed heavily during pregnancy - it's not uncommon to have a period-style bleed every 4 weeks. Worth eating a hob-nob just to satisfy your mine and Euro's curiosity?

I'm I've not had time to post today. Work has been a biatch. Loving the non-ttc updates though. Hugs to all

My bleed or period or whatever the fuck was going on was like a scene from Dexter. I can have a bath on my period usually with no fuss so was and made a mess everywhere . Oddly I am not blood phobic around my period, but this was pushing it. Maybe my thermometer is broken. I have booked to see GP to push for blood tests though as this isn't right and I don't think it's a lump of any sort. In the remote possibility I feel something moving I a few months time I owe you a drink .

Ok, I'm not going to say anything more after this, because I don't want you to feel harassed, but I do think it is probably worth checking (for your own sanity now I have sewn this seed - sorry). 18 high temps=CP. 24 high temps=?

Oh I have totally got that wrong too. I have had high temps for 24 days. 14 after ov and now 10 more. Maths was never my best thing.

And I did have 18 high temps the cp month. That did not end well.

If only it would be true. But so much blood. There can surely be nothing in there. It genuinely has not occurred to me that this could be a possibility. I will remain in the I Am Entering The Menopause mindset for self preservation. If I feel something kicking in there I will cave!

Hmmm. I'm sure futility friend says 16 days of high temps = you know what.

My friend who had IVF didn't bother to test because she had a normal period. They did a test when she went for the follow up to discuss the next cycle. And guess what....

No. I'm most definitely Not Pregnant. Way too much bleeding. I think maybe the high temps are because I've felt glandular fevery? I am not going to be That Woman! I think I have just had a major hormonal disaster. Poo.

Er, high temps for 38 days??? Weirdy bleeding patterns. Have you POAS?

euro I think almost every grad on here has had The Scary Cramps. It must be so hard to not expect your period but remember it is very normal as your womb figures out it has a dual purpose! How exciting for your womble . Sending positive superglue thoughts.

I am posting from the tent, via carrier pigeon. I mean I'm down and pissed off but not so bad I need to entirely retreat. I'm just in one hell of a grump. I have in fact been evil like this and flung some over cooked pasta almost but not quite at Hare yesterday. It is thankful he has a sense of humour. I will enthrall you with top 5 reasons for my EVILNESS later.

I am loving the glimpses of the 10 plussers in Real Life. I know it is hard to do without just punching in your full name but it has been a lovely thing to find out stuff about you lot I didn't even know after all this time. For whoever asked, I do Bikram, Ashtanga, Hatha and Forrest yoga. I just mostly do yoga! It keeps me surprisingly fit. I am a runner in my head, but since the op last year it hasn't happened as it has been a slow healer and I still have complications with the scar, which tends to rebruise very easily and hasn't knitted together very well. Ah ttc, how I love thee.

joycep i second that you are incredibly strong. And lady, if there are people taking time off for colds at your place, your days off are well overdue! I wish I could make this all ok for you and it is rotten that amount of time, emtotion and cash is not repaid fairly in this game. All the virtual support I can send to you. If you wanted a shoulder to cry on, I could be on a train in a flash. I am still hoping beyond hope that there is good news for you this week.

euro this is all so exciting. Natural ivf works. And they said you had high nk cells. I am happy for you in bucketloads and also incredibly comforted by what this means.

critter I am going to have to look up those trousers.

Nelly spotting is the devils work. See below! Come and sit in my Ye Olde Tent of Spotting. How much fun does that sound! I have cocktails. And black toilet roll!

Buzzy your posts don't half cheer me up lately. Loving the baker story. Is your MIL actually my mum?

tenmonths I remember you. I'm glad we've helped. I imagine we are read by a lot of people who don't post. Hello people!

doll how you doing lovely? Agreed that we want you to stay here, whatever happens.

lemon we talk about how we might build our family a lot. And I can engage with it very well. Until I start to think that is Might Be Real. And then i get freaked out by it all.

gin you still in train limbo? Loved your you update.

madness wave. I am curious about who you were before. Were you always madness? (senile emoticon) no need to say who you were.

I really am fed up at the moment. I know it will pass, I've had a few of these slumps in the past 2 years. But here is my countdown, sing along the old top 40 music.
At 5 - baby news from friends I don't want to hear or think about
At 4 - recurrence of glandular fever feelings. Again. it's been 14 months!
At 3 - Hatred of all talk of IVF and IUI and my consultants pathetic advice that i could have got from a builder.
At 2 - my rabbit is ill. And old. Scared.
At 1 - My womb appears to have packed in. Spotting started on cd21, 7dpo. 14dpo get period. with a nice 2 days off spotting for mentalling. Period fairly heavy for me, temps remain high even til today. Spotting continues. Get one day off and now on CD10 I appear to have my period again. This is INSANE. I felt pre-mentrual all weekend even though my period had just ended. And i didn't get PMT before actual period, or cramps during it. Temps tiny bit lower this morning and lo and behold I have a period I think. So what the hell was the big bleed? I have therefore had high temps for 38 days. I am properly disturbed by it all. I thought maybe the temps hadn't fallen because it was my period but i haven't kept a chart, I just take my temp now like it is habit. So I can't really tell what is going on. So now I think I have some awful hormonal issue on top of everything else. And there is NO WAY I'm diffed, I've bled way too much. I is pissed off.

But I did meet a 10 plus baby today and they were beeyootiful.

Welcome to the delurkers. Now we have some fresh blood on the thread, it is really time for a few long timers to graduate. Come on universe, sort it out!

Nelly how odd about the long time spotting. Maybe your cycle is still settling down post IVF? If you think it messes up just about every hormone level there is.

Critter it would be great if we are both on the way when we meet in DC! I had always wondered where your username came from. Now I know! The personal updates really are lovely.

joy I am so sorry that the beta isn't going the way it should. I do think buggering on as if nothing is happening with regards to work is daft. You really need to be kinder to yourself. The world will not stop turning if you call in sick and tuck yourself up in bed for as long as you need.

buzzy would you mind saving the adoption info you are sending to others somewhere? I am not ready to see it yet, but if this doesn't work out, we are planning to look into it.

Gin I had never seen a second line two days ago, and I was beginning to think I never would. However this turns out, I have overcome that particular hurdle.

I have felt very crampy this evening, like AF is imminent (it would be due today/tomorrow if EC day had been ov). Hmmm.

Hello ladies. I've been shafted by the bloody trains again and am gonna be late for a meeting, so popping onto MN, as a treat!

joy I am so incredibly sorry for you. I so so hope a miracle does happen. Do let me know if you need any RL support or help. I have no idea how you are managing work! You are one super strong lady. Seeing the GP sounds like a good idea - you don't want to hand over more ££s to the clinic. I totally know what you mean about nothing changing and work etc being same old same old. I think i feel like that as i want a big change in my life ie a baby and it's just not happening. Massive hugs and luffs to you and Roy.

pout at the canine babies. Were you having a mock ET at some point?!

euro excellent news about the stripey pee stick! I am thrilled to see natural ivf having worked for someone. Maybe that's an option for us with DS, if iui etc doesn't work.

nelly sorry about the spotting and pee stick. I bloody hate those things and my period inevitably starts as soon as I've wasted money on them. I've never seen the elusive 2nd line and doubt I will... I'm sure the spotting is your cycle getting itself back to normal. My post ivf cycles were really long too. They say it takes 3 months for your hormones to properly recover.

Welcome 10months. I lurked for ages before joining and now I'm never off it!

rabbit I hope you are ok. Sometimes it is all just too much. Big hugs.

buz at mil! My mum offered to take me to the clinic if Dave couldn't go and I had to point out the obvious. I found it v funny, not sure she/dave did! Please could you pm me about the adoption process too? The more time goes on, the more I think we'll end up there, if they let us adopt!

critter did I read that you've decided to go for ivf. A brave decision lady and wishing you lots of good luck with it.

Waves to everyone I've missed.

Loving the non-ttc update, lemons, critter, nellie etc, critter i need to see a pic of the trousers! I've never heard of them. Here's mine... Me and Dave both 34. Married 4 years, been together 8.5 and known each other 13! We're history geeks (professionally, as well as interest-wise ), like drinking wine preferably in the south of France, reading the Guardian, and going to gigs although we're always the eldest there now, cos everyone else our age has babies. Dave is allergic to animals, so our totally spoilt fur baby is a guinea pig. I like clothes, gin, cooking and trying to make things grow in my garden. Dave likes sport and FIFA. But I still love him to bits and he's my bestfriend which is a bloody good job seeing we can't have proper pets or kids cos of him. Nah, I wouldn't change him for the world. We will just have to have more piggy babies!

Right if anyone lurking knows me in RL, I have totally given away who I am!!

Afternoon lovelies!

GRRR about weird spotting nelly. Although I loved the update :)

So so sorry joy, getting the doc on the phone must be odd. Keeping stuff firmly crossed until Thurs (and beyond if we can).

Impressed with all the chat of moving on, building families one way or another etc. We've had chats about it too, but I am not really ready.

Quiet yay for euro. Can't wait for the update tomorrow!

Welcome to the delurking newbies. I am failing to keep track, maybe you can add yourselves to the growing list a page or two ago.

The me outside TTC, which I think is a great idea rabbit. I've been with lovely SB for 5 years, married for 2,5. Before him I was convinced I'd end a cat lady without a partner, because there was a LONG draught... I love my job, but both new and old jobs are incredibly googleable so you just have to take my word for it. It involves a fair bit of thinking and chatting and coffee and writing. And some more give-away bits. I have always done a fair bit of exercise and am trying to regain my running abilities, which is going very slowly because a) it is cold, b) I am injury prone and c) I am lazy. I have done a fair bit of yoga too and trying a new class tomorrow :). We live in a tiny flat and when diffed I mainly panicked about twins... I love cooking, baking and taught myself to crochet a few years ago. Now I am the crazy lady who makes granny squares on a commuter train.