TTC 10+ months Part 13

Oh no! I hope you are ok, pout. What a pair you make this weekend.

err, the running backwards and forwards after MrP stopped abruptly about an hour ago when I fucked up my leg!!!!!!!???????? It was one of those common hopping from foot to foot, shuffling to get into jeans that are too tight sporting injuries! Something made a ripping sound (not my jeans unfortunately) and then there was a searing pain in my leg. I now can't put any weight on it and had to crawl down the stairs on my bottom. Hells bells. [arghhhhh face]

madness How is the hair? To be fair MrP is properly ill which is why I am actually being an uber bitch for being secretly pissed off If it was the usual man cold I would have had words by now!

Yep, that's the long protocol where they shut you down before ramping your ovaries up to produce the eggs.

pout the timing is awful isn't it! I can't believe you are waiting on him so much when you are downregging yourself! I hope he picks up soon.

Morning all,

This place has been busy lately and I'm falling behind!

Having a slow morning before heading to my own hair appointment this afternoon. We can both feel pruned and shiny this afternoon sar. I am so sorry that you are feeling low. I am in a different situation but had been hoping for the post lap pregnancy before they told me I needed to go on the drugs. The constant cycle of hope and disappointment is so draining. I really am pleased to be getting a break from it, although frightened that ivf is our only way of getting pregnant in the immediate future. I won't be kept on these drugs long term though so if ivf doesn't work there may well be a chance of a miraculous bfp in my post ivf future..... Try to look forward positively says me trying not to feed into menkulling about the fact that your Af isn't actually here yet

Hope you're alright joy. I can't imagine what seeings hbs must have been like. You and Roy are doing so well xx

pout boo to headaches but well done for getting the hang of injections. I also get irrationally angry with MrM for getting sick at inopportune times. He also does the full on man flu act whenever he has a sniffle. I am sympathetic..... To a point. The antibs should kick in quickly and make him feel much better.

I will be joining you all mrsd buzzy critter nelly with ivf at end of march/beginning of April. Will be good to have a bunch of us.

I hope things are brighter today rabbit and that the visit to the GP was okay.

Alright need to get a move on. Waves to euro gin doll sea freedom and everyone else that I have inevitably missed.

Typical man pout, bless him! Hopefully the drugs will kick in soon and he'll be better . I think you must be on the long protocol, so the drugs you're taking now shuts your ovaries down, then you'll take a different drug to fire then up again.

mrsd Day three of very first injections so I guess that is downregging (see I really haven't asked enough questions!) I think the clinic described it as shutting things down so they can take control???

Thanks for asking after MrP. He's still pretty rough but my God is he milking it! I have never made so many hot water bottles and cocoas & I'm running backwards and forwards fetching glasses of water and blankets. It makes me die really when I think back to my lap and how he managed to make me 2 poached eggs and one cup of tea the whole time I don't think it helps that secretly (and obviously really, hugely, massively irrationally) I'm peed off that he waits 14 years and "decides" to get sick the day we start our IVF cycle

Taking the scenic route has made me chuckle, pout. As nice as these back lanes are, I'd like to get back on the highway now.

1500euro is what we have to pay, the other 1500 is paid by the insurance. So a cycle costs 3000euro. If we need a fourth cycle then we will have to pay 3000.

Sorry about the headaches pout. Are you in the downregging stage now? Is mrpout feeling any better?

Neither of us is using it!

TBH, I learned far more about AC from these boards and random googling than questioning my clinic.

Thanks euro I will ask the clinic. I'm just starting to realise how little I have prepared for the cycle and how I should have asked way more questions. It's not like I didn't have months and months to think of these things! I am such a muppet.

You made me laugh about not wanting to mention the "P" word. Is MrEuro allowed to use it?

I'd check with your clinic re: aspirin, particularly as you get close to EC, because it thins the blood and you don't want the risk of a lot of bleeding when someone is poking around your fanjo and ovaries. My clinic actually asks you to take low dose aspirin from EC onwards (which I am doing) as there is a theory that it aids implantation. Ibruprofen is bad because it can inhibit ovulation. I know that paracetemol is generally considered fine though (and I am sure aspirin is too, so far before EC).

Oops burserelin...I prefer my spelling & pronunciation of it!

euro Yes, it's Bureselin. Headaches are the one side effect I really, really didn't want! I've been taking aspirin because the headaches feel a lot like migraine. Is that bad in an IVF cycle? I was thinking that given we're not at the follie stage that it would be okay. Shit, maybe aspirin is a bad idea.

You're right about the mental barrier being the actually sticking the needle in. It was never about the potential pain for me just the leap from picking up the syringe and pushing it in. It is getting easier each time though I still can't think about it all too much either during or throughout the day!

pout are you on burserelin? If so, headaches are the most common side effect (and about the only one I didn't get - I was ticking off the rest of the long list in the box). You can take paracetemol if you are suffering. I'm glad the injecting is getting a little easier. I think once you get over the idea of sticking a needle through your skin the actual practicality of it isn't too bad.

Ohh mean't to say buzzy I hope that your migraine has gone today. Also it made me think to tell you that I went to the opticians last weekend for a routine eye test and found that I have astigmatism. While it doesn't affect your sight per se it just puts your eyes under added strain and can cause migraines. It just made me wonder whether you have it too? I'm getting glasses just to wear for concentrating on things like the TV or sewing and when my eyes feel strained or when I have a headache. Just a thought

doll the cold is probably a good sign - your body's immune system is a bit suppressed to let the foreign DNA in the embryo implant. I think it's quite common to come down with something at this point. Do you get an early scan?

I googled yesterday and discovered that insomnia is really common. This morning it was even earlier - 3am . I did an hour or so of work and then managed to get back to sleep. Thankfully my work is really quite soporific!

sarlat the hormone dip around the time of arrival of AF is so cruel - just when you are feeling at your lowest, mother nature comes along and gives you a big slap around the chops. Meh. But critter is absolutely right. It is normal for it to take a few months, even in the fertile, so don't despair. You may well still get a post-lap BFP.

mrsd 1500 euros a pop is really quite good. The cheapest you can find a conventional cycle here is about £3500, and many clinics are far more expensive than that. The UK always seems to get a raw deal!

It hasn't quite sunk in yet. I have yet to be able to bring myself to use the P word in reference to myself. I don't want to wish sickness on myself, but I think if I were throwing up, or had the metallic taste or something, it might all seem more real, but I just don't feel "p" at all.

sarlat I'm so sorry that you are feeling so low. There is nothing like a "promising" cycle turning to shit to drag you right down & set off all manner of negative thoughts. You're so right that it isn't fair and you deserve a lucky break (but like nelly said, you will get there. Us ladies on here just like to take the scenic route!). I hope that your trip to the hairdressers cheers you up a bit. When I feel crushed by another failed cycle I try and focus on how my period will be over within a week and then it's only a few more days before we're gearing up for another ovulation and another shot at the prize. Soon you will be mentalling over a new cycle and this one will be a dim and distant memory Big hugs though sarlat

nelly Sorry about the A* announcement. All the period talk just makes me worry. I'm down to a period lasting just a day and a half and mainly brown gunk That can't be good. It would make many woo doctors faint in shock I imagine!!!

critter woo hoo about ovulation and helpful doctors appointment. Enjoy your long weekend.

mrsd so glad that you are getting over the lap so well. Sorry about another preggo announcement. I decided to go all masochistic on myself the other day and logged onto FB for the first time in ages. It made me remember why I don't bother with it. I was particularly peeved about constant updates from a new mum regaling us about her early afternoon wine o'clocks. Also the news feed was awash with kiddie birthday party photos and births of siblings. Also I found I was getting really upset about how cliquey it seems to be when you become a mum and how when something is posted all these other mums pile in and offer advice or "ohhhh I know. Little Willy does exactly that" comments. I might never be part of that dynamic.

gin I hope that the booze killed your cystitis

euro another announcement - they always seem to come in clusters on here. Sorry about the name stealing thing. Just console yourself with the thought that you will choose something much more discerning and unusual for your bubs

I called the clinic yesterday and they don't think that MrP falling ill will be a problem though we will have to keep them updated. We are hoping that his antibiotics are the right ones for the type of infection and will find out on Monday. Also praying that it is just a kidney infection and not stones or something requiring a hospital visit. I just can't believe that this has happened now just to throw some more worry and stress into the mix.

Injecting is getting better at this end though I have had a constant headache since starting. I'm not sure whether this is the drugs or my usual menstrual feeling like shit thing though the headaches feel more stabby than usual. I did not pull a whitey this morning either - whoop!

Sar, I'm always in sadville just before af. I blame the hormones. I start to feel better once af arrives which is crazy really. Are you sure it hasn't worked this month? There's always hope whilst af stays away. You've reminded me to book a hair appointment, are you going for a change of style?

Critter - thank you for your comforting words, I know you are right about normal couples not conceiving every month. I just feel so gutted as it felt different this month.

Euro - hormone dip is correct im sure, I am 14dpo and another bfn this morning. Iam fed up.

Den - I would take the short protocol any day. Very exciting times ahead for you. Xx

Buzx - you know how kind you have been to me dont you, thank you.

Rabbit - how did the gp visit go? Are you ok?

I am in sadville, but going to hairdresser now which is nice.

So it's probably not twins then doll, I wondered when you said you had strong symptoms early on.

Nelly, I know what you mean about the cost. We don't get a free go, but we get 3 at 50%. Each cycle will cost us about 1500euro. It's cheaper than the uk I think. Our clinic does sometimes offer free cycles for taking part in trials. They have one at the minute to test a new stimming drug, but they want women with lower amh than mine.

Hello all, I missed alot and I'm sorry to see so many tent dwellers. Although critter the drinks are a nice touch. I've now got a cold, the first all year. euro early waking is a thing in pregnancy, I had it well before just from worry, and now have a double dose. Dr Rock was chilled out when I called to tell him yesterday. I'll book scan next week.

No mrsden still just one put in there!

Yes MrsDen, hopefully after my next period. But we are a bit skint after the wedding/honeymoon which does impact it somewhat. But may well be similar timing to you/critter/buzzy, and others?

Buzzy, I'll stretch my other paw over the north sea to you.

Euro, my names have all been snatched by people who probably started ttc a long time after me. It's so frustrating. You'll get to name your baby soon enough, how are you feeling? Has it sunk in yet?

Nelly, will you move on to ivf no 2 soon then?

Doll, did you have two embryos put in?

I still don't really understand the protocols. The dr said I would be on short protocol because I'd be more likely to be over stimulated on the long one. He also said that because he thinks I have good egg reserve that my outcome with short would be just as good. It's all confusing though.

It's not on TV euro which makes it even worse .

Arsebiscuits indeed on the name stealing, but in a few months you can do some of your own! Good to know about the bleeding change being a good thing - although I don't normally have too much of a tail. And of course, I'd really rather there was none at all .

Did someone ask me about cycle 2 upthread? We go in next week for our (belated, due to wedding/honeymoon) review of the previous round, at which I am going to say I don't want the norethisterone, and I do want progesterone support (I had an ovitrelle injection on 7DPEC). Other than that, I want to have a more normal next cycle, and to start again the one after.

mrsd I know exactly what you mean about AC waiting rooms. I think everyone is sneaking looks at one another and drawing the same conclusion.

nelly I'm astonished Mr Euro hasn't made me watch that. It sounds like his kind of crap thing.