a safe sanctuary for larger ladies who are ttc!

Scotty I agree that I am far from perfect. I have capacity therefore I am legally entitled to make decisions regarding my own welfare even if they are considered by others to be unwise.

In general risk is poorly understood. Consider the recent large scale review of the risk of death associated with different BMI categories. What are the risks you are comfortable with in relation to your own family?

And what's wrong with them making that judgement for themselves? Who are you to judge?
You seem to be missing the point. The fact that you have come onto a support thread, and are defending your point of view so vehemently against the cries of other posters stating that you are insensitive demonstrates this. No-one is saying that to be morbidly obese and pregnant is an ideal situation, but for most of the ladies on here the key thing that they are focused on is to get and stay pregnant. You have, seemingly, no knowledge or understanding of this situation in life. You are fortunate that you do not, so respectfully I would ask you to take your opinion elsewhere.

I have noticed that as soon as these valid points are made, the easiest thing that some of you do is try to point the blame elsewhere. GollyGosh just proved me right when the focus was shifted on to alcoholics or 'weed smokers' that's a whole new debate. Stick to the real issue which is obese women who may not be on a decent diet or exercise regime, trying to conceive a baby whilst knowing all the risks.

I never once said how awful you all were and I think instead of calling my comment insensitive, why not actually consider the reality of it, and the fact as an obese person, you would knowingly go into pregnancy with the higher risk of that happening. Yes it's a support thread, but nobody on here should seriously be advocating that it is physiologically possible to be obese and healthy. Those comments are uneducated and downright stupidity at its worst.

'likes JaquelineHyde's post'

I just typed out and deleted a huge post as I realised it was actually pointless. It would be wasted.

All these health workers judging obese people yet no doubt happily treating less healthy people because they cannot 'see' their crutch.

Yes you should world to being as healthy as possible but being overweight is not the worst thing possible. Id rather a fat parent than an outwardly healthy secret alcoholic or weed smoker but they don't get flack

You insult me, as predicted, Jaqueline, because the truth is very difficult to hear. And you know it is selfish to try to conceive a baby when you know the risks throughout that pregnancy and birth, and the future implications of looking after a toddler that needs to be fed properly and kept active. I see these mindsets sometimes and it never fails to amaze me all the excuses one will make as well as insulting those who disagree with their choices. It saddens me and makes me question the health industry as well as other professionals.

Scotty go away this is not any other thread, this is our thread, a support thread not a thread for you to come on here and tell us all how awful we are and how much danger we are putting our unborn children in.

You comment about stillbirths is shocking, I just hope and pray no poster on this thread has had to suffer the horror of a still birth that you in no way can guarantee in down to excessive maternal weight.

That has to be without doubt one of the most insensitive nasty comments I have ever had to read!

Having seen the other thread and the denial about health risks on there as well as posters being told to 'jog on' because they don't agree with your choices,

Scotty you do realise what an utter moron your comments could make you sound to some people. In fact I am sure you realise that but decided to post anyway.

In my very humble opinion people like you should not be allowed to have children because whilst I am over weight, I can diet and lose the weight, there is always hope for me, yet you are ignorant, rude, nasty and offensive and will pass this type of issue with weight on to your children, the poor things.

Oh and all of my DCs are healthy and well within a perfect weight range, and my ds is gifted in the area of sports and movement and has had professional interest in his abilities already.

It's not meant to be unkind towards those who are trying to lose weight but for those who continue comfort eating and not bothering to change bad habits whilst TTC, they need a reality check in my opinion. It is extremely wrong to state so confidently that you can be obese and healthy like a few posters have done on here and in other threads. Others may be mislead by this and it is a very bad example for children to believe and follow. I have worked in the health industry as many MNetters do and I'm just shocked at the attitudes of some overweight women. It seems to be a case of 'well nothing bad happened to me while I was pregnant or in my labour/birth so I'll just tell others it will be fine and it's acceptable to not take risks seriously' This mindset is prevalent and unless action is taken there will be a lack of education in future generations. Please, anyone overweight and finding it hard to stick to a diet, let your future baby be motivation for that. A forceps delivery due to a woman being too exhausted to push due to her inactivity is not a pretty sight, nor is the tragedy of a stillbirth, something I wouldn't want my worst enemy to go through. It's worth re considering TTC if you are at an unhealthy weight, and that's a valid fact.

"It's pretty selfish to ttc while obese". Seriously?!

It's actually pretty selfish of you to say something so insensitive and rude. This is a thread for support not for condescending, ignorant remarks.

I'm overweight and we are ttc our first together. I have a dd from a prev relationship, we've been ttc for 6 years now and it's all "unexplained". Very frustrating.

I am under consultant led care which is quite normal for someone considered obese in pg but also because my son (now 7) was born prem after my waters broke at 30 weeks.

I haven't had any complications due to my weight although every health care professional I see likes to try and blame every niggle I have on my weight which is just ridiculous but typical of the attitude towards over weight people. I generally shut them up by telling them I have lost 8 stone over the last year and a half and have continued to lose weight during the pg.

I was unable to conceive for a long, long, long time as my exssesive weight meant I didn't ovulate, losing weight kick started my system again and I got my BFP 3 months after my periods returned So I do know exactly how all of you ladies are feeling especially as I was told obver and over again that my periods would never return regardless of how much weight I lost. I currently have 3 dc's but only ds is biologically mine my two beautiful DDs are adopted.

I've been lurking on this thread and can't get my head around how some of you genuinely believe you can be fat and healthy. What a good misleading example for your own children anyone here thought about future implications, not to mention the fact it's pretty selfish trying to conceive whilst obese?

I had a normal delivery at 19 stone no complications but I had a epidural f pain relief x

I'm not currently TTC, but I have 3 DC - all of whom were conceived whilst I was (and still am) obese. DS1 I weighed 120kg, no complications, hospital birth. DS2 was born at home - no complications, and I weighed 150kg at the time. That was in 2006, I've remained 150kg, and DD1 was born in 2011. Again no complications.

There's no doubt that for some ladies, it is harder to conceive when heavier - but it's certainly not impossible. It is also accepted that, yes, we can have more complex requirements due to size - bigger beds, operating tables etc.

I have a friend who is similarly sized, and she has PCOS. She was refused treatment by one GP, until she lost a certain amount of weight. However, the PCOS was part of what was causing her weight gain. She changed doctors, and her new GP prescribed her the medication and as a result she has been losing weight.

Just as it's possible to be slim and unhealthy, it is possible to be big and healthy.

I will stick around if no one minds and nice to speak to l who understands how it feels to be big, jacquline just wondering have u had any complications so far as a result of your weight?

Congratulations Natalie. Don't leave unless you want to. It will be lovely to hear how you're getting on. I'm on cycle 25 now, but that's almost certainly due to my age. I'm ovulating each month, and I think I've conceived a couple of times, but it's just not sticking. I keep hoping though, but time's running out for me.

Tested again this morning ladies and definitely a BFP for me making me around 3+5 from last period, when I got pregnant with dd1 I looked visiabbly pregnant to everyone else from 23 weeks but I weighed 3 stone less I'm not worried about showing my pregnancy early as long as I show at some point but having spoken to doc when I was ttc he said e would be happy for me to follow the weight watchers diet while preg too keep my weight at least the same so as not to gain. Happy to leave this threa if u wish as I'm no longer ttc? Xxxx

Hope going back to work isn't as bad as you fear. Tell the witch to piss iff if she starts...

Calibee honey...I've just posted on the other thread for you.

I need a different GP. But I need to get over the frikkin anxiety so I can leave the house and register with one. I feel so pathetic. I also feel like I'm about to start my period - it's due tomorrow...grump

Should have read mc at 10 weeks.
Back to work today...nerves kicking in. eek

Waves to isabeller and Drwho fan...can I join in??
I have just had 2 weeks of comfort eating following a ms at 10 weeks...I feel mahoosive. I have struggled with my weight for most of my adult life,....I'm currently about 16 stone. I'm about to restart clomid with my next AF...my consultant didnt bat an eyelid about prescribing it for me.