Page 36 | Fantastic Forty Plus, part 9, this time is our time,bring on the bfp's!

hopefulgum · 2013-01-01T23:20:41+00:00

We've filled out thread - I do hope you all find your way here. I can't add a message on the old thread to let you know it is here...[smile] This new thread, will no doubt have its own set of bfp's and babies. I am excited to see what it brings.

CaliBee · 07/01/2013 19:03

Thankyou ladies for your kind thoughts....much appreciated.
I have of course been googling (bloody lethal) and have found that the development of a yolk sac does mean that true diagnosis of a blighted ovum is out and that generally a yolk sac does not develop without an embryo. Of course that does not mean that it is a viable pregnancy either.....
irish private scan did cross my mind but will probably wait it out. £75 is a hefty sum in January.
I do confess to popping to Boots on my home frome the hospital and stocking up on supersized sanitary towels (lord I hate those things) ...just in case. I feel being prepared for the worst scenario will make it a little easier to bear should it happen....particularly as I would be alone with DP back at Catterick.
hopeful so excited for you, it sounds...well Hopeful [:)]
diege how are you all doing now in the poorly household?
lizard...raaa to af.
Sorry for not namechecking everyone...its a busy thread just now...and if I'm honest my mind is proper ----- fill in the blanks.

Irishmammybread · 07/01/2013 18:02

Just popped on while I'm getting tea to see if CaliBee had posted, I'm so glad you have more positive news. Two weeks feels like a long time to wait though, I'd be tempted to have a sneaky private scan before that I think, but I'm not very patient!

greenlizard it is frustrating to have a weird cycle, but as you say when AF comes it's the start of a new cycle to aim for. I find there is a real pattern to my moods,disappointment when AF comes,resignation(and consolation with a nice glass of wine!), then anticipation at the thought of trying again, stress about timing dtd, a sense of achievement and relief if we time things well around ovulation so a short period of relaxation but then mounting stress again as the 2ww progresses.... and then it starts all over again!

twenty that idea about a ttc rap on you tube is brilliant but can you imagine how embarassed any older DC would be !

Deige hope everyone is recovering and you're managing to prepare for your interview.

Isabeller hope your appointment today went well.

gum am waiting for updates from you ,any more symptoms?

I'm on cd15 now. DH has now gone away for this week ,we dtd fri,sat,sun morning and I've had a little ewcm over the last few days but ironically loads today. I had a positive opk (I think) yesterday but another positive that developed really quickly today so I'm wondering if I'll ovulate late this cycle again , very frustrating as there's nothing I can do about it!

Hi to everyone else.

NewPatchesForOld · 07/01/2013 16:35

Calibee, so glad the news has been more positive today, I was thinking of you today.
As for me I have been flaked out on the settee all afternoon, absolutely shattered..hardly surprising after my insomnia.
Hopeful, I honestly can't remember whether I suffered insomnia with my previous pgs, but I feel wretched today.
Deige...sorry about your night, chicken pox can be hellish, poor thing. Hope you have a better night tonight.
X

remnant · 07/01/2013 16:29

greenlizard, just read your update, sorry!

remnant · 07/01/2013 16:28

wow calibee, how frustrating, but quite easily good news right? These 'babies' are pretty tiny at this stage right? I would have thought easily missed. Hope you had someone with you, apart from all of us in spirit x

greenlizard, as hopeful said, an positive opk at end of a cycle can mean a bfp....? It's very true that travelling etc can disrupt routines, but ds1 was conceived while I was away when I least expected it.

patches, fwiw I had a completely sleepless night on boxing day night, 5dpo

hopeful thanks for your comments on sharing news of a miracle. I still haven't found the words yet but I am enjoying the peace

greenlizard · 07/01/2013 16:20

Oh Calibee - that sounds like positive news. The waiting must be torture for you but keep hoping and we will all hope with you.

My spotting has now turned into proper bleeding and painful cramps. Looks like AF has come inexplicably early (cd21) and 1 day after my lonely solitary positive OPK. I am feeling really emotionally wobbly (not good thing at work) .....still if it is my AF I am back in the game in about 7days.

Good luck everyone waiting - we need more bfp's!,,,

twentythirteen · 07/01/2013 16:19

Wow Calibee, I won't pester you for details everyone else probably already knos, just wanted to add fx for you!

twentythirteen · 07/01/2013 16:16

Dropping in to say hi, thanks for the welcome, a cycle rap on you tube of a bunch of 40+ ladies sounds hilarious! Can we say Yo and do hand gestures and posturing?

I miscalculated - maybe that should be added to the rap? - and am only cd 8 today. I've been opk testing daily though since shortly after the mc just to keep an eye on things. Hopeful have you tested yet? I def had positive opks when the hormones were still in my system. Afm, Normally I get a lead up of faint lines and so far it is very clearly a negative so I'm now worried I won't actually be ovulating this month (add worry to the rap). It's all so silly isn't it, these bodies. When I last got pg I ovulated on cd 10, could so easily have missed it... just realised that would have been preferable!

I like the new years resolution to look after yourself better... oops, forgot now who said that! I've stepped back from everything I can at work. Luckily I'm thought of as a diligent, hardworker so I am hoping I can rest on my laurels a bit.

Sparkly, that certainly sounds tough re your OH. Because he said he wanted one thing but then did another when your bfp pitched up it made me think about attachement styles, they can kick in and override our best intentions.

The use of on here made me laugh! Mine are flat as a pancake after too much yo-yoing these last 12 months!

Greenlizard what a confusing cycle, am sending you my sympathy.

JBrd · 07/01/2013 16:14

CaliBee

CaliBee · 07/01/2013 16:05

A super fast flyby with update....
Scan today showed development of a yolk sac from last weeks empty sac and the sac has grown in line with development...but still no baby seen . The nurse is trying to be positive I think, and I have to return for another scan in a fortnight (oh god its gonna kill me).
Forgive me for not namechecking...but I am watching excitedly at developments x

littlepinkfizz · 07/01/2013 13:49

Sounds like a BFP is on its way gum!

Don't know what is happening to me. Had AF but really sore boobs and they r definitely bigger. Wish it wasn't a true AF, but although it was a little lighter, it was still AF!

Any ideas why my poor boo boos are being puffed up and out? ( not that I don't want the extra volume in my bra) but I'd rather it were a sign of pregnancy.

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hopefulgum · 07/01/2013 11:12

Hi Greenlizard - is it possible that you ovulated early? Could your positive opk actually be a + preg test ( an opk will come up + if you are pregnant)?I only say this because the spotting could be implantation bleeding ( a drop in temperature can also happen with implantation). I would be very surprised if AF is turning up a day after + opk. That would be really odd. If indeed you are getting AF, then you could have had an annovulatory cycle, but with the + opk, that seems unlikely. Sounds strange, but I would do a pregnancy test just in case. I'm really not sure about the progesterone blood test - it would be pointless if indeed you are only ovulating now (incidentally, I have heard of ovulation spotting too).

Sorry if I'm not much help, just trying to cover all contingencies. Hopefully things will be clear soon.

As for the running, I think I will try a few more rest days, perhaps go cycling or swimming in the interim, get some good shoes and try again.

Deige - you really are having a bad run, you poor thing. You must be so tired.
Hopefully you will get a couple of good night's sleep before your interview.

Newpatches, I often get insomnia when I'm in the very early stages of pregnancy - do you?? As for my symptoms - I have felt sick on and off all day and tired,plus sore boobs, but DH and DS had a tummy bug in the last few days, so could be that (although I seem to feel fine inbetween bouts of nausea). I had a lovely quiet afternoon, using my "illness" as an excuse to lay on the couch and watch Dickens' "The Mystery of Edwin Drood", I have to admit to loving all his stories.Meanwhile DH took DD and DS to swimming lessons whilst my DD1 (almost 16) did the weekly grocery shopping! Lovely.DH even brought a bunch of flowers home - very unexpected.

I really hope I am feeling off colour for a really good reason. A couple more days then I'll test depending on how my temperatures look. They often nose dive around 12 dpo.

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greenlizard · 07/01/2013 10:30

Morning all

Sorry to all those who had rotten nights. Diege hope your little one feels better soon - chicken pox is miserable. Patches I hope you are pregnant and that is the cause of your symptoms (which will make them worthwhile). Thinking of you today Calibee - I have everything cross able crossed for you.

Hopeful - don't give up hope yet and excellent advice on the cycling front. I got some good advice once which was there is no such thing as over training but there is such a thing as under resting! Maybe you need to take more rest between training days to build up your muscles around your joints. Also getting the right trainers is very important to prevent injury.

I am very confused by what is going on with my cycle. I am now CD21 and got my first positive OPK yesterday (my DP rushed home to DTD with me). Thing is I have been cramping since yesterday and had pinching in what feels like both left and right ovaries and had dull ache on my back. I was spotting yesterday pinkish blood and still am today (enough to use a panty liner). I used my last CB OPK this morning and it malfunctioned annoyingly so I can't see if I would get another smiley face this morning. I have also had another drop in temperature to the same level whilst on my previous period....I am worried that I have actually got my AF 7 days early . I was supposed to go for my 21 progesterone test today but am not sure if I should go given its such a weird cycle....

Does anyone have any idea as to what might be gong on??

Diege · 07/01/2013 08:58

'consolation'

Diege · 07/01/2013 08:58

If it's any concolation patches I had a rotten night too - poor ds2's chicken pox spots were making him very distressed and he was awake pretty much through 1 to 6am. Luckily I'm working from home today, with 2 dcs not back in school until tomorrow. Really hope I get a good sleep before interview on weds - my mind doesn;t run very fast when I'm tired
FIngers crossed gum on the month'y rollarcoaster. It is indeed very early days. ON the running front I got a knee injury after overtraining many years ago ('runner's knee') and wearing out the stuff that coats the patella. The advice I was given was to strengthen the surrounding muscles, so quads basically, and that cycling was an excellent way to do this in a low-impact fashion. Might this be an option? And of course yes good shoes (and socks!).
Taking down the tinsel here too Isabeller - thank god I say
Love to all

NewPatchesForOld · 07/01/2013 08:45

Aarrgghh...what a night. I don't think I slept for more than an hour and that was in fits and starts. I'm soooo tired this morning, had to get up early as it's back to school today, I feel sick, have a headache and just want to sleep. I'm not sure what kept me awake - I have a back condition and that was very painful in the night every time I moved, but I just could not drop off. Felt very resentful of DP for being blissfully asleep all night, lol.
How are you all doing this morning?
Hopeful hope you are feeling more positive today?

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hopefulgum · 06/01/2013 23:54

Isabeller, I am sad to say I have to have a break from the C25K because my knees are hurting so much. I a disappointed, but I will let them get better, then try again with better shoes and see how I go.

It sure is exciting about the embryo transfer. I have everything crossed for you.

Newpatches, I'm not feeling very hopeful, not very symptomatic, but it is early in the day and I tend to have more symptoms later on. When I am preggers I always get the sickness around 4 -5 pm, not in the morning. I don't want to be too hopeful, as I don't like the disappointment.

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Isabeller · 06/01/2013 23:20

I think I'll have to stop C25K if we get as far as embryo transfer at the end of the month hopeful but probably good to keep going till then. I hope the clinic will give us a lot more information tomorrow. The whole thing seems so unreal I am taking things one week or even one day at a time.

Warm wishes to all and goodbye seasonal hats as I take down the tinsel x

NewPatchesForOld · 06/01/2013 22:23

Hopeful, if I ov'd on time I will be 4 or 5 dpo...but my cycles have been pretty irregular lately, so could have been earlier. I have a whole wad of cheapie internet tests so may give in and see. How are you feeling? X

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hopefulgum · 06/01/2013 22:11

Newpatches, how many days post ovulation are you? If it is more than 10 I insist you pee on a stick! Those symptoms sound so likely

I am back to feeling pessimistic. My temperature, though taken half an hour early, is just not very high. I would expect higher temps if I were pregnant. Time will tell. 9 DPO today, don't want to test for a couple of more days, or not at all if the temps keeps nose-diving.

Remnant and Sparkly, I'm not sure what I'll do if I get a bfp. Last time I didn't tell DH, I think I knew it wasn't going to last, and it was a very early miscarriage. I was upset, but nothing like with the other miscarriages, so was able to carry on as per normal. My DH had no idea. I still feel I'd do the same again, I just don't want the added angst and negativity (because I know he won't be over the moon like I will) in the early days. But everyone has to do what is right for their situation. Who knows what I'll do if/when I get a bfp. I will feel like it's a miracle and that's how I'll put it to my DH. He knows we are having unprotected sex, that there's a possibility, but he believes it is a one in a million possibility - like a miracle- so that's my approach I wonder if he realises that 1% is actually better odds that 1 in a million!

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NewPatchesForOld · 06/01/2013 16:02

aaarrgghh...I'm also VERY quick tempered today which is SO unlike me, I am normally very placid and easy going, but not today. It's horrible.

NewPatchesForOld · 06/01/2013 13:38

Either I am pg or menopausal...I had to strip off while sitting at the dining table this morning, came over all hot and faint and nauseous...couldn't get my arm out of my dressing gown and was panicking I felt so bad, lol...the kids just looked at me like I was mad!

And DD1 has just cooked quorn bacon and the smell is making me feel really sick, usually I like the smell but this morning it's making me want to hurl.

Again I know I am symptom spotting, but it's impossible not to.

Hope you're all well

x

sparklysapphire · 06/01/2013 12:14

remnant, if you do decide to tell DH sooner rather than later, I very much hope he'll be more positive than you think. We both miserable at the moment, and it's horrible. I did tell DH the chances of a pregnancy were relatively low at my age, but definitely not out of the question, so he knew it could happen. Sending you positive vibes.

ooh hopeful - sounds promising? Thank you for your kind words, and wylie too, I sympathise about your in-laws, it's really tricky when they have completely different ideas/thought processes about what's important and what's not.

greenlizard, I think you're right about DH's reaction being complicated and not just an overreaction. It's almost like he has a phobia of pregnancy, maybe that's a bit strong, but it does seem quite extreme. He had counselling last time. Thanks for the tip about Relate, I will definitely consider it, I think talking is the first step then getting to the doctors this week.

greenlizard · 06/01/2013 11:04

Sparkly your DH reaction to your current and DD pregnancy sounds complicated rather than just an overreaction - has he ever talked about why he feels this way? It is important that you get some support during this difficult time and not just for your pregnancy (which obviously is important too). I really hope your DH can help and support you in time but sounds like he needs to help on his own. If you DH doesn't want to discuss things with someone did you know that you can go to Relate on your own?

I went when my ex and I were having problems. Initially he said he wanted to go and actually made the appointment but then actually refused to go, so I went on my own. I can honestly say that it was a lifesaver for me - it was simply brilliant. They do charge (but only if you can afford it) and for me it was the best money ever spent. Just a thought.

xx

greenlizard · 06/01/2013 10:56

Ooooh hopeful or crazylady if you perfer? that sounds quite, well, hopeful! How long is your luteral phase normally?

This morning I experienced quite a sharp drop in temperature followed by a bloomin' smiley face on my OPK...on Day 20!!! DP and I have been giving the worlds rabbits a run for their money over the last week and half and the one day that DP has taken his kids away I get a sodding smiley face 8 sodding days late! aghhhhh! The spotting must have been from dtd too much . I feel like I have AF type cramps in my lower abdoment and twinges on my left and right - which could all be in my head to be fair - I am not sure what is going on. Am I the only person to do a HPT and and OPK on the same day? - ha [evencrazierladyemoticon] The lines on my FF graph have gone off in huff as it clearly can't interpret my chart any more......

I was due to have my 21 day progesterone test tomorrow but I am guessing I should push that back by a week? Anyone got any ideas?