Santa Baby, Leave a BFP under the Tree for me <brook the Rat Smacketeers>

its exactly like af cramps really friday afternoon it was mainly in my lower back and down my legs. I've had a couple of twinges since but that's it. I am too scared to announce myself over on the grads just get! I have to admit that there's still a big part of me that is all too aware that this time still may not be our take home baby.

Congratulations cartoon you'll be on the grad fred before you know it!

sweetie that is excellent news about your womble lining, that BFP is in the bag.

keep you poor thing, if it's not one thing it's another for you. Still, at least a rash won't prevent you going ahead with the cycle like the thin lining did. Good luck with your sister's visit, it's so so hard but you are doing the right thing keeping the questions and comments to a minimum, and staying private about your own treatment.

cleo you'll get there, it is still very early days for you yet. Glad to see you are so optimistic for your new cycle though.

All good here, though dink-boss is up to his usual antics. Have just been over to shadow someone upgrading a piece of software only to find out they thought they were supposed to be shadowing me doing the upgrade! No news on the op appt, am giving myself this week to get my head straight and will chase towards the end of this week, beginning of next, to find out what is going on.

Keep that totes should be my new name!! I meant because Im used to calling her face and now theres no link to face in her name. I think face may be staying put for a little while (but she may correct that)I agree with Boo dont worry about a bit of cramping, the day I got my BFP I had AF cramps, I was so convinced I'd wake up the following day and to have come on, its unnerving but nothing to worry about. Also pay attention to where you cramping is, if its fairly high its probably a stomach related issue!!

Boo/face 16 week check is this afternoon. Scan is 31st, and yes I think we'll find out what we're having, I'm horrendously impatient so wouldnt be able to control myself!!!

Cleo We have two kitties, identical twin boys, but I wont actually say what the others name is because its rather unusual and would cause a massive outing!! I think its great that you're still positive at the beginning of every cycle!!

On the conceive plus front I bought a little syringe and discreetly.. erm.. applied it internally before he came to bed. I didnt get on with it though, it just made everything a bit... slippery.... so stopped after a cycle!!

Keep I can sympathise on the rash front!! My urtacaria is still driving me bonkers!!

we have concieve plus too. and dh was on the man conception vits. every little helps!

Haha, cartoon that we are, I am uber skint this month so the cheapies will have to do I'm afraid. They seemed OK last month, One app wasn't enough for me, I have two lol, I just wanted to check if they said the same thing and they are actually slightly different. The woman log one is the better one. I have however invested in some conceive plus this month, haven't told the OH yet, not quite sure how to broach that subject lol.

Rash still there.. stupidly just did some exercise which made it worse.

boo have you found out the sex? I think you're not going to? You are, what, 22 weeks?

I was like that testing early! haha we seem to have similar ways of thinking. get the digis though. so much easier. get an app or something too I have one that predicts my most fertile 5 days

Ohhh exciting cartoon a honeymoon baby is lovely! So nice to think that you had the happiest day of your life which was part of what made your BFP. Such amazing news!
Started OPKing last month, really helped me understand my body, its a bit early to start this month yet as I'm on CD5, although a few people have OVd early after xmas so I might start on day 8 instead of 10, just so I don't miss it.

just heard from the clinic got my first intralipid drip thingy tomorrow.

no cleo don't under estimate the power of positive thinking! I told dh while we were in cornwall that I was pregnant I was convinced and had been convinced that this cycle would be the one because of how lovely it would be to have a honeymoon baby. anyway what I'm saying is that it worked for me so I don't think it's a bad thing to tell yourself that this month you will be pregnant and really your a brooker now and that's what we do! do u opk?

sparkle you made me lol with the dropping a bollock remark . I liked Cleo for ages even possibly for a child OH hated it so decided it was best used on the dog lol. We have a cat too called Hogan, he's my baby too, just less keen on snuggles.

I usually have a big downer on the day of AF when I accept that I am not preggo, usually I knew that all along then I am back to the belief that next month will be THE month I get my BFP.....thinking about it I may be slightly unhinged with my complete confidence

Face yep me too don't worry about the cramps, they are normal unless they become very painful, it is just your bod getting ready to stretch for the baby :) yay for the early scan, I had one and it was amazingly reassuring!

Sparks 16 weeks already :) have you had your 16 week check yet? You should get to hear the hb, I was very definitely showing by then, but after 3 pregnancies my stomach has just given up

Solars brooking for AF to show up, or for you to poas

keep how's the rash? I haven't been over there yet, I'm being extra careful this time. I don't want to get too excited too soon just incase. ill only be 4wks tomorrow.
sparks neither do I! haha I'm finding my new surname very strange! I changed my name here to incorporate it. but face is still fine. glad ur feeling better. I can't believe ur 16wks already! are you going to find out the sex?
I have a 7wk scan booked on the 30th. as yet I don't feel any different. maybe very slight sensitivity of the nip. I have had a few tummy cramps though

2 weeks, solars... I think I'll be here a lot...
Is there no no no chance of poas? I know you didn't swi, but could you have ov'd later and...? Are you waiting AF so you can sort treatment?

16 weeks is just awesome, sparkly hypocrite, changing your name then getting at face ;) has face popped to the grads yet, or staying here a while. Will you have an early scan?

Where has all that time got to Sparkes?

Keep if sis asks about treatment just say you don't want to talk about it. I think it's fine you ask the minimum questions, that's what I've tried to do but even that is still very hard for me for fear of breaking down in tears I'm sure she'd understand. I too focus on the niece & nephew. How long is she there for?

Sweetie hope you've stopped worrying about the ifs and buts, i know where you're coming from but one step at a time, lovely.

AF still hasn't arrived, I have been spotting since Friday, starting to get a little worried about it but DH keeps assuring me it will turn up.

I have a busy day ahead of me but will try and catch up later.

I'm such a bad brooker and I havent posted anything for days!!!

So I'm going to try and name check the most recent posts and apologies profusely if Ive missed anyone/anything!!

Sweetie So glad your womb lining has improved, things are certainly moving in the right direction!!! I know its easier said than done but you need to try not worry about all the variables, and the what ifs!! you could send yourself dippy!!!

Cleo TTC certainly is tricky, but I think most of us will agree with each cycle we learn to understand our bodies a little better, little consulation for that cycle not ending in a baby, but once you have the basics sussed it makes things a lot easier!! oh and yay for you being another animal lover!! I'm personally a cat person, simply because we;re both at work all day, so thought cats would fit in to our lives a bit better!! oh and Cleos such a wicked name, one of our kitties was a Cleo until it literally dropped a bollock!!

Keep I think thats a perfect plan, hopefully you sister will be sensitive enough not to force the topic!!! if she asks about your treatment just tell her theres nothing to report and then change the topic.

Face How are you feeling? p.s I shall be calling you face for the foreseeable future. I dont handle change well!!!

Nothing new to report from me, although I hit the 16 week mark on Friday. where the hell did those last few months go? I cant honestly say whether I'm showing or wether its just turkey weight!! Most days I just feel fat to be honest!!! MS starting to calm down now though so thats a nice bonus to proceedings!!!

Even though Im not posting all that often Im still brooking for each and everyone of you!!!

news on the grads thread, you might want to pop over

Oh and I've spent much of the weekend inside trying to cool off to get this bastard rash down. No more drugs this cycle, other than trigger, so hope it'll go down in the next couple of days.

Oh sweetie, big hugs. I also had a minor freak out a couple of weeks ago that if I ever do get pg I'll be a recurrent miscarrier as well. Dh told me to shut it. But if you have the money and time then those tests could put you at ease.

I am glamorously doing language lessons each day now, sorry! :-)

My sister comes out in just under 2 weeks. I still have no ideas how I'll handle it. I am focusing on seeing my little niece, otherwise I'd be dreading it. I'm thinking I'll ask the minimum of questions, then try and ignore it and talk about other things, how does that sound...? I do NOT want to discuss my treatment, though am sure she'll ask.

solars, hope AF showed, or your bfp, but bfp you'd've told us.

sweetie you really mustn't torture yourself like this. but I can understand that you would want to check everything.
I believe that its a very specialist thing and not all doctors believe in it. so you may need to go to a different clinic if you want them done? check out the miscarriage clinics website thats Mr s's site. I think we spent about 800ish for all the tests but you may not need to have all if them. from my point of view it was very easy its all just blood tests.
I'm sorry that you are feeling this way at the moment, but I know I would be exactly the same. its understandable.

Hi sweetie she is 16 month of stubborn willfullness, I think 5 or 6 months is when they hit teenage, ours got so naughty at that age, testing all the boundrys....little minx!
She is much better than she was, a lot calmer but still has her moments, for example if someone rings the doorbell it is pretty much the most exciting thing to have happened in her life, she whines, jumps, generally excitment gets the better of her. She still jumps up a bit if people stop to stroke her on walks but it is less than it used to be, she soon learnt that I ignore her till all four feet are firmly on the floor. On the plus side a puppy is certainly good practice for a baby

Afternoon all

Cleo how old is your pup? There are a few of us Brookers that have pups, I have a 5 months old Cockapoo. We have just got back from a very muddy walk. She is very challenging at the moment as she is SO excited by everything, she wants to jump up, or on, everyone or thing. It is a bit of a nightmare when she is so dirty. I am hoping she will calm down and all 4 paws will remain on the ground I love her to bits but I had forgotten how hard the puppy phase is.

cartoon can I ask what tests they did to determine you have killer cells? I am having a bit of a mental today about "what if...." scenarios. I am totally over thinking I know but I can not help it. I am so close now to having a donor cycle I want to make sure everything is in order. I have never been tested for killer cells or sticky blood and am just driving myself & DH mad thinking that I will get a BFP only to then MC because of something else. I don't know if to ask the clinic of they can do the tests for my piece of mind. I am throwing so much money at this the cost of those tests won't make much difference. It is very unlikely we will be able to do another fresh cycle if this is unsuccessful, both emotionally & financially, that this is our only change. Sorry for a bit of an epic post but it is all going on in my head today.

Sparks I had been meaning to ask if you are showing much yet?

keep come and cheer us up with tales of drinking cocktails by the beach or something else glam you are getting up to!!! When is your Dsis due out to visit? Did you decided how to deal with her diffedness?

Right must get back to checking out home & car insurance prices - the joys of life laundry!!! Only upside is I get to listen to the Jake Budd album while doing so, loving a bit of Jake

haha clever, knows how to get what she wants!

yep thats where the name is from she is pretty cute, she plays on it though....clever girl lol

ah so thats who cleo is! shes adorable!