Disgusted with IVF Charging.

dd2 is now errrrr 16months. so sept 2002.

does that mean if i decide to have another child (if things are ok) then i'll need even more jabs.

When was you last pg? The change only seemed to happen last April I think. I was same as you for ds1, but had anti-D pre-birth with ds2 (8 months).

150percent. i wasnt told to have 2 anti-d jabs when i ws pregnant. i had extra blood tests, a jab after and now they offer a blood test 6months after giving birth.

POP2005,

I'm not sure where you have been looking for details of campaigns regarding the postcode lottery, but suggest that you have a look at the NICE site. If you search under IVF you'll find details of the current NICE study looking at recommendations on fertility treatment to be adopted by the NHS. It is in the second consultation stage but should be finalised in February. If you can be bothered to wade through some of the reports there is a lot of research on the efficiency of different treatments etc.

I think that the effect of the report will be that similar treatment should be available to all, though not certain that this applies to funding. I know that with my 2nd pg I was told that being rhesus negative the NICE guidelines stated that I should have 2 anti-D injections during the pg, however the NHS hospiatl didn't have the funds so I had to pay for them (admittedly on £70).

You'll also find details of all the interested parties to the report including groups like ACEbabies and Child who have been campaigning on this issue. Good luck with your treatment.

Janh sorry to hear about your cancer! But as you stated you dont know what it is like to go through inferility. I am! I also know what it is like to go through cancer as well. I saw my mum go through Ovarian Cancer. So unless you have read the whole thread, dont you dare call me self centred. Im not being offensive. Before you stick your big ore in read the whole thing. We are talking about cancer sufferers who smoked, or people have self inflicted illnesses.

Im 27 suffering from PCOS and at this stage in my life dont need to start looking at adopting yet. Why should I when there is the possiblity that I can have kids of my own?

Problem is, the risk of infertility being emotionally devastating is unequal, might affect MaryZ or others, but far from everybody. Whereas if we each got ovarian cancer, we'd each be at equal risk of dying. So obviously, making (for instance) the treatment of ovarian cancer a priority over fertility treatment, will help more people.... and by any objective measure should be considered more important.

i havernt read all this thread. i dont want to. the NHS is overstretched. we have just spent almost 4months to get my dd2 seen by the right clinic eo check her heart out. my dh is possibly going to be having transpalnt. his illness could've been caused by 'excessive' alcohol consumed in his youth, it could have been caused by chemicals used in the workplace/home etc.
my sister had to wait 2 years to get her son dx properly.

infirtility, altho must be heart wrenching and stressful for people, isnt life threatening. if a hospital ad to choose between providing a couple with ivf treatment or supplying my dh with his meds for a few months to keep him stable, then i hope that my dh would be a prioity.

I agree that unless you have been through the enormous pain, both mental AND physical, that suffering from infertility causes, you are unlikely to understand why those of us who do suffer feel so passionately about it. It's a pain that knaws at your very soul and is completely unpassifiable. Whilst you remind yourslef about the things you should be fortunate for, this pain does not go away. The worst of it being when the NHS say that yes they can help you, but ever so sorry, but they can't, because there isn't the funding. For me and my dp, we were denied because he has children from a previous marriage AND had a vasectomy. Initially when I lived in the south we were catergorically told we would have to pay for a reversal, but there was no point, and that we should go straight into IVF, that we would also have to pay for.

We then moved to the north of the country, and luckily our new GP was very understanding and got us the reversal on the NHS. Over time it has been proved that it WAS a success, not fully, but enough! None the less, we were ultimately told that we would have to tacke the ICSI route and again we would have to pay AND join the waiting list. For all the same reasons I showed before. I was ENRAGED. I wrote to the hospital, to my local health authority, my MP at the house of commons AND finally the Prime Minister. After well over 18 months of badgering they conceded that as I didn't have any children and as a couple WE didn't have any, then we could have the treatment on the NHS. PLUS, they changed the local policies which now state that if the couple are childless, regardless of whether either has children from previous relationships, that they be considered.

OK, so you can't die from infertility, but you can't even begin to compare it to cancer or any other like illness. Neither should funding be withheld when they CAN help countless 1000's of couples.

Just my opinion, a passionate one though!

um - astrogirl - I have not suffered from infertility but I have suffered from cancer. I went through surgery, 6 months of chemo and 4 weeks of radiotherapy which has, touch wood, saved my life. I find your self-centred comparison between cancer and IVF very offensive. Having children is a privilege but it is not a right. If you are unable to have your own there are thousands of children in this country who could benefit from the time and attention of people like you, as adoptive parents or voluntary helpers.

have to agree with flamingo.

Astrogirl, I'm hugely sorry for the pain you have to go through but I've got to disagree - it's just not the same as suffering from cancer. It's pretty unlikely you're going to die from infertility.

For anyone unable to have children like myself, I think is its just as worthy for IVF to be done free on the NHS. Its not a case of being self rightous, its a case of every bloody month going through the pain of finding out that once again Im not bloody pregnant again, then when going to the hospital for help and they are giving you the option of IVF but its got to come out of my pocket.

From reading some of the posts on here its obvious the ones shouting the hardest about IVF not being as important as treating a Cancer patient has obviously not gone through the pain of not being able conceive.

Suffering from cancer and being unable to reproduce are both traumatic experiences. One is no more important than the other. Both needs treatment from the NHS but luckily for the Cancer patient they dont have to worry about financing their own treatment like I have to.

pop2005, as i said before, tinker has backed up my comment. since i know she is in a good position to comment on this, i don't see the need to cite further information. it is actually you who have not backed up your assertions.

98% SP, success rate for IVF: 20%

pop2005 - you may not be saying that smokers shouldn't get treatment, but you are implying that your IVF treatment would be more worthy. That is the cause of the upset, and the reason for my self-righteous comment earlier.

And transexuality is an actual medical condition - the operation succes rates (about 95% I think) attest to that.

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Gender reassignment is NOT the result of making yourself ill.

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OK am wanker, stupid slut and tired old granny going to bed cos am worn out with all this wanking and general sluttishness. See ya later!

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