Elderberry Pavlovas Unite - the over 30s TTC number 1 (thread 2)

Yeah we had two in November didn't we! Lets hope for at least another 3 in dec!
Who is poas first? Is everyone around Xmas!?

Bunny I'm still very firmly in your gang! 8dpo here so a while to wait yet. Anyone in the POAS queue before me??

Captain I take a B Vit Complex. 100mg one from Holland and Barratts. I read that it has to be a complex to work. Makes your wee bright yellow though, and it smells.

Not that I want them to go, but I get the feeling that the newly knocked up are out numbering us TTCers here!

Thanks for the reassurance Rache. I have been good on the panic up until today but then these twinges made me think its ectopic. Silly I know but I can't help it.
I'm also having LOADS of cm which is a nightmare cause I keep thinking its blood. Disgusting! I wonder why though as cm is supposed to help sperms swim and nobody is swimming up my bits these days!

Quod I would say I have moderately bad MS on and off which started at week 6.... except it generally is not MS but ES as I feel generally ok throughout the day and then really sicky all evening until bed time. I have only actually barfed twice though.

BLol I had shooting pains and AF style cramps from weeks 4-7ish but these seem to have eased off to the occasional twinge now. I also had bright red blood and cramps last weekend which has also been classified as unexplained but normal by my local EPAU, but whatever your symptoms (or lack thereof) it's bloody hard not to panic! Also, TMI ALERT!! I have had much more CM than normal since getting up the duff but yesterday was the worst so far by a mile! When I got home from work I had to have a shower and knicker change because the day's CM was so plentiful that it had dried and actually gone a bit crusty! Totally disgusting! What is my own body doing to me???

I really really want some festive BFPs on here, is it bad/weird that I get genuinely sad everytime the witch gets someone, is it the crazy hormones?

Lol It's hard because you care. We get it

Keep on keeping on. It's not easy this pregnancy or conception lark!

Hazle you should have seen the smile on my face when I was too big for the 30C then the 30D! Altho as I was proudly showing them off to OH he said 'they make your boobs look smaller'! Damn the lightly padded t-shirt bra. I need me a plunge one!

Damn the witch CaptainMoll So sorry she really has settled in interesting about your LP though - I'm sure I read somewhere that anything less than 10 should be flagged up to doctors because there are ways of lengthening it. I think progesterone treatment is one way...

Hi everyone, yes to hangover symptoms, no actual upchucking here but PLENTY of quease. Bel - I also had lots and lots of pain, particularly on one side (literally had me bent double and gasping in pain like someone had stabbed me through with a knitting needle) but it seems to have eased off in the past couple of weeks so hopefully everything is ok. I figured it was just everything stretching and they reckon you get pain on the side you ovulated from sometimes. Mine was worst in about weeks 4-6. Don't know if that puts your mind to rest at all but I suggest you avoid Dr Google, tis the only way to stay sane.

I'm glad I'm not the only crazy one hazle. I need to get a grip!

excellent Brave, instant boob job, no surgery

lol I know the feeling but probably nothing to worry about. I did, of course, google all ectopic symptoms obsessively and then obviously managed to identify them as well, only normal.

Now I'm panicking I'm having an ectopic as I'm having a bit of pain on one side. Am I crazy? It's not strong and I have no blood at all. Why oh why is this so hard?

It is Pip, the crappiest. {Group hug with Bunny and all other ttc-ers}
Thanks for the Vit B advice - is that B6 (or 12)? I used to take that for bad PMS so I should get back on it - sounds like it's good stuff.

I am as sure as I can be about OV - opk'd and charted for the first time this cycle and all the signs pointed at CD21. They were ebay cheapy sticks, but the temp confirmed it. No CM this month though so maybe I just had the surge and no actual egg?

Anyway, hopefully some answers forthcoming in the next week or two as scans etc happen. My hunch is that it's a combo of my short LP and that DH has no swimmers due to the monumental levels of stress he's been going through in the last few years. He would be so devastated if it's "his fault" though (this is absolutely how he would take the news).
Still, at least I can have a or several this weekend.
xx

I've been taking vitamin B to stop spotting. Some people find it helps their LP too.
Are you sure when you ov'd?
It's just crap isn't it Captain.

Game definitely over here - last little hope of implant bleeding has now faded in the face of undeniable AF.
This means I have only a 9 day LP (faulty maths earlier, 9DPO today, not 10), which may be part of the reason this is proving so damn difficult. Does anyone know if there's a way of changing your LP length? Vitamins or medication or something?

I'm suffering more with ms actually, just don't like to whinge. Have felt sicker and sicker every day this week (now 5+5) and this morning struggled to get out of bed, and then had to keep slowing down while walking to work because I was retching.

Am even off coffee. Which is scary. I love coffee so much (have cut down to one cup a day, mind). Managed to nibble a garibaldi type biscuit which helped, but then seemed to make it worse 5 mins later (saliva and acidy in my mouth). But then colleague arrived with bacon sandwich and managed to eat it and feeling much better now.

I guess this is ms, but haven't actually vomed yet.

Btw Hazle on the small boobs/bra front... went from a 34AA/32A to 30DD last weekend. Granted, a bit of this might be early pg boobage, but for real! Managed to get two t-shirt bras for £16. Sooooo comfy.

I don't think I can call mine a proper ms, just every now and then feel like I have a mild hangover. I guess it's like with most things, you only hear about people who are massively sick all the time and not the much larger proportion who have a mild ms or none at all.

Sorry to hear that Captain and Bunny . It's not fair is it?

BLol, I got that cm panic thing really badly at the beginning too, it's horrid isn't it? The bad news is the cm doesn't decrease, the good news is the worry does.

I spent the evening with a friend of mine with 2 kids last night and she made me feel much better about not having much sickness - she didn't have any at all with either of hers. And it made me think, has anyone on this thread got 'proper' MS or are we all just worrying about not having it?! Maybe we all just think we should have it but actually it's less of a given than we think it is?

Oh so sorry to hear that Captain and Bunny

And I, too, very much enjoyed your poem. But what's this, you might not be out-out yet? You're right, someone said 'it's the hope that kills em' - but if hope turns into a BFP then surely all will be forgiven.

Fx for happy news, and, at the very least, some festive BFPs. Enjoy a glass or three of for now.

Yes Bel, that old myth about the stork gets more and more appealing..
The hag is just toying with me now. Light spotting yesterday, but as I am simultaneously on cd30 and 10dpo it could be start of AF (most likely) or implantation bleeding! Sometimes hope is more painful than disappointment..
I've also just work out that I am now embarking on cycle 17. (but that includes a handful of months where we were in separate countries/too stressed. I think in real terms its about cycle 13 or 14).

The next week brings docs appt for dh and an ultrasound for me though, so hopefully by next OV we'll at least know what the problem is.. Onwards!

Oh that's rubbish captain. And your poem was lovely too!!!
Xmas bfp would me an amazing present. Fingers crossed the elderberries continue to have luck!
I've already been to the toilet 4 times today. I do want to pee all the time but seem to have a lot of cm (tmi) and keep worrying its blood.
I sometimes wish someone could give me a ready made baby. Of my own of course!!

Sorry she got you captain and bunny. :(

So sorry to hear that captain . Here's to a more productive December for us all in camp TTC.