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Months on and most people are pregnant so I'm starting a new thread Come and join me if you've been TTC a while or are TTC after pregnancy loss... we've been through it all! Pt 2

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mrsnec · 01/11/2012 06:23

HK, Munch, Els, Rach and Tas where are you and more importantly, how are you? Sorry if I forgot anyone. Looking forward to updates!

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MunchinMango · 26/11/2012 17:34

Hi ladies.

Tas omg lots have been happening with you. Sorry your dh lost his job and sorry he is feeling stressed etc. I'm sure job wasn't helping. Hopefully he gets help he needs now. Fx for your scan tomorrow. Hopefully it's as mrs has said your not as far on as thought.

Els fantastic news about your scan. It must be a huge relief. Hopefully you can start to enjoy this pg abit more now.
Congrats to your sister, wow that was a big baby.

Mrs how's it going. Well preseed is definitely great for that complaint and ttc friendly. I think it's the pressure of having to ttc as opposed to being spontaneous!!

Well I'm on cd 21 at mo and temps are all over the place, rising and falling like a yo yo. I've even got ff baffled.

Waves to almond, rachie and anyone else I've missed.

elsabel · 23/11/2012 20:12

Scan was amazing, i am 12 weeks and 5 days so a bit further along than i thought and he or she was moving around loads very active! Were so happy! Also my sister had her baby today she had a boy weighing a big 9lb 12oz! Pheeewww

Tas sorry youre having a bad time but i think its definatly a good sign you saw a heartbeat! And theye keeping a close eye on you so thats good and not long til tuesday xx

Have a good weekend everyone hope munch and mrs both dtd successfuly!

mrsnec · 23/11/2012 18:52

Hi Tas sorry to hear about the job. I hope he finds something soon and I hope everything works out for you. I'm sure you will be ok and he's doing the right thing going to get some help. I don't have any experience of what you're going through with this pg but I did have a quick look online out of curiosity. From what I read a lot of the time when a GP says this it turns out that the pregnancy isn't as far on as first thought. The hormones just support development. And you saw a heartbeat didn't you? Just hold on to that. It's great they are monitoring you so closely. Munch how's things? We had exactly the same problem the other night. It was the first time it has ever happened! Had to resort to some dodgy Ann Summers Massage oil we've not touched since before we got married! Had a massive word with myself about the age thing. I'm being silly am not exactly a pensioner! Almond and Els any news? Have a great weekend all!

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tasjaSAmuminSA · 23/11/2012 16:30

Ag shit! I see I wiped part of my story!!!!!!
The bad news is that the sac is very small. The gyno said it worries him that the sac is small and the bleeding. I haven't ask questions (i was in shock - again) He gave me hormonal pills and said it will support the sac. I don't know if it will make it grow or what? Does anyone know of a story about this? i've been looking on the internet but can't find anything about someone who has a small sac and taking the hormonal pills.

tasjaSAmuminSA · 23/11/2012 16:25

Hi ladies!
Sorry I haven't been on in a while. Damn internet didn't work the times that I wanted to post!
A week ago DH lost his job!!! Sad i don't know what we're going to do in the next few months. I really hope he gets a job fast! Luckily he got in at a clinic here to go and see a phsyciatrist. There's a waiting list for 6 months but luckily??? he was put on the urgency one so he will start therapy soon! It really scared me because I didn't think my DH really needed it. Just thought it was for the CCMA trial for the work. But seems it is a reality and I asked him about it today and he says there is a few things thats bothering him but he don't want me to stress.

the other shocking (and confusing) news is on Tuesday I started bleeding. Very lightly but after the MC I didn't want to take any chances so I phoned my gyno and told him and I went in straight away. Bless my principal-she gave me off immediately the whole day. He did a scan and we saw a heartbeat Smile. it was soooo tiny - like a needle point. Does anyone know of a similar story? I thought that I only needed to hear the heartbeat and everything would be fine. And now this. I'm going for another scan on Tuesday and pray and believe that this one will stick

MunchinMango · 22/11/2012 18:02

Els best of luck for tommorrow, wishing you a happy scan. Let us know how you get on.

Almond hopefully it's pg symptoms and not AF coming early again. But if it is you are armed with a plan to sort that lp out.

Mrs try not to panic you are only going 35!!! I had my dd at 36 and she was perfect. I on the other hand will be turning 41!!! Its totally understandable how everthing together woukd get you down. Maybe plan a night away in a nice hotel and dinner for your birthday. We didn't dtd successfully the third night as dh was at college and too wrecked. But I can defo say preseed done the trick for us. (Tmi alert- I was just too dry and I think that was what was causing us problems) my temps are rising so I suspect I may have ov'ed but my only worry is our two attempts may not have been close enough to ov. But hey we will try again next month. At least I am getting to try. !!!

mrsnec · 22/11/2012 07:00

Hi All! Hope the scan goes well Els! Munch that film sounds great too and on the subject of ttc that's good going with the 3 nights in a row! Don't think we've ever managed that! But have now decided that pre seed will be the next thing to try even though I dismissed the idea before! FX for you Almond. I didn't go to docs with my LPD but from what I read online it does sound like it's something not all GPs have a great understanding of. Also I read that there are cases of healthy pregnancies in women with Lp of About 10 days! I'd feel better if I could get mine to 14 though. Not that I enjoy the 2WW! Very brave going to school reunion. I couldn't do that! Well not in my current state of mind anyway. I'm feeling a bit better about things. I think it all happened at once I know plenty of women have healthy babies into their 40's but I recently found out there is a history of birth defects in my family after this age, then the fact that this is cycle 24, the pg announcements and my b'day next month it was all a bit much. But we all know this is a bit of a rollercoaster! No plans for my b'day. Finances aren't great. Probably a good thing for it to be low key. Munch I agree it's great to have a plan. I'm trying to get DH to do that. Had a chat about it the other night after things weren't going that well in the bedroom department. He thinks it's a bad idea as we're 'over-thinking' everything too much already. I kind of agree I do feel under a lot of pressure. But I've lost track of my cycle days. I'll stop temping and I set a reminder so I know when to start the cream and we'll just dtd as much as poss until then and see what happens!

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elsabel · 21/11/2012 14:52

Munch - that sounds like a good idea whatever you both need to stay sane as the whole ttc thing really is so stressful and exhausing. That is good going with dtd, my boyfriend isnt happy as ive been so paranoid since finding out im pg weve done nothing since!!

I have my 12 week scan on friday...eek very nervous and excited! I will be 12 weeks on saturday and then have a week off work i booked ages ago so am anxious for the weekend to arrive for lots of reasons!

Almond- i hope your cramps and sore boobs have a good meaning behind them...keep us up to date on whats going on!

AlmondFrangipani · 20/11/2012 22:08

Hi All,

Mrs that is positive to hear about the bvits! Fingers crossed it works for me this month! I am going to get some progesterone cream too. Sorry to hear about your family not being very sensitive. I dont know about you but I have been feeling more and more bitter (trying so hard not so show it to anyone's face) about friends getting pg. I am going to a primary school reunion at Christmas as pretty much everyone has 1 if not 2 kids. Feel like the odd one out..

Elsabel thanks for the welcome. I was a bit taken a back from the doctor tbh as he has been very supportive in the past. I think I will try my 'own way' until Feb and then go back if no luck. How many weeks are you?

Munch we're lucky if we manage 2 nights in a row so good work! Feel pretty armed with info on the LPD and have actually booked to see a reflexologist tomorrow evening. It is a lady my Mum was recommended at the dentist (?!) who specialises in fertility. She sounded lovely on the phone and said she can definitely help and straighten out my cycles. I really hope so...

Well I have been symptom spotting already at 4dpo (at my best guess). Had crampy feelings and slighly sore boobs. Trying not to get my hopes up too much. If my cycles are still short I will get AF this weekend so it could just be that...

MunchinMango · 20/11/2012 16:47

Sorry that you are feeling down Mrs but I can totally appreciate why. It's hard to keep motivated and positive all the time. Of course your dh cousins news has hit yous both hard. Maybe try and say that yous keep doing the same for the rest of this year. Plan something nice for your birthday and Xmas. Then in the new year if not pg go and start investigations. For me we have decided to seriously try until next march and if no joy then we are calling time. I felt better just knowing we had a plan.

Els thanks for fx. No smiley this morning and we didn't dtd last night as both wrecked tired and 3 nights in a row too much to sustain!!! So I'll just keep temping and see what happens. How are you doing? Is your 12 week scan next week?

Any sign of Tas?? Or any of the other ladies?

Almond did you get any more info on luteal phase issue?

elsabel · 19/11/2012 22:49

Great news about your smiley faces Munch! I have fingers x for you this month! Sorry youre feeling so down mrs, i really hope you have some luck soon, its more frustrating than anything sometimes isnt it, especially when it feels like everyone else is pg and your relatives dont help either. Are you going to do anything nice for your birthday or try and avoid and forget it?!

Welcome Almond! I dont know much about LPD but youre doctor sounds very insensitive, I would try and see another one if I were you. It sounds like youre really taking matters into your own hands though and not giving up which is good. This thread is a nice one though and great for hand holding through the stressful ttc, im pregnant and still on here as it feels like home now!

mrsnec · 19/11/2012 13:12

Hi All! Els glad you are ok. That sounds like my kind of weekend! I'm dying to see both those films at the moment although our local cinema has stopped advertising if they are showing dubbed or subtitled versions. You have to take pot luck when you get there. It'll be odd seeing Daniel Craig speaking Greek! Think we'll wait for downloads. I love the thought of Javier Bardem as the new baddie too! Feeling a bit better but bit down about the ttc thing at the moment. Feel like everyone is pg except me even when I open a mag some other celeb is flaunting a bump. I think it's birthday looming too. Really wanted to be pg before I hit 35. The pregnant couple in question are still in our face a bit. It's DH's DU and he wants DH to be more inolved and interested in their baby but we're both finding it hard at the moment. I think we are going to have to be honest with people. Anyway enough about me. Welcome Almond. I diagnosed myself with LPD too. I have been taking Bvits for 2 cycles and have got my luteal phase from about 9 to 13 days on my last cycle. I've read LPD sufferes can be oestrogen dominant too so I've got some progesterone cream to try for the first time this month. I'm going to start 2 days after ov. Munch that's great news on your ov! Hope this is our month!

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MunchinMango · 19/11/2012 12:56

Hiya Almond your very welcome and yes we have chatted before on other threads. Really crap of doctor just to dis you like that. But I would agree if you are sure you are ov'ing so late then the lp is very short. But I've read that the b vits should help with that. On the epo be careful to stop taking it after you have ov'ed. (Not 100% sure but think I remember it can cause you to mc.) This ttc lark is defo hard work!!! Don't worry about no +opk as if you only test once a day you may have missed the surge. I'm still in the dtd season so not on 2ww yet.

AlmondFrangipani · 19/11/2012 11:24

Hi All!

Can I join?? How are you Munchin (I remember you from other threads)??

A brief well not that brief intro from me. I had a mc in Aug/Sep at 7.5 weeks with #1. My cycles have been a bit weird since and not a wisp of a BFP since (despite targeted TTC!). My cycles have got shorter (25 days long) but with late ov (CD19 on average) so I have been consulting Dr Google and apparently that means I could have Luteal Phase Defect which basically means you cant sustain pg Shock eeek! I went to the Doc and he basically dismissed me and said I am obviously fertile and as we have been only trying for 6 months then I would have to wait 1-2 years on the NHS for any help. So...I am taking matters in to my own hands and got some Vit B6 which I have been taking for a month and some Evening Primrose Oil to help my cycles. Fingers crossed it does something...currently on CD21 but no +opk's but estimated ov on CD18.

Anyone testing soon?

Sorry for the long intro (TTC just isnt simple is it!). Looking forward to getting to know you.

MunchinMango · 19/11/2012 10:42

Good morning ladies.

Mrs hopefully you will be pg with your own baby by the time your friends baby is born.

Good to hear all is well with you Els. No haven't seen either movie yet. Saw a real chick flick The Sapphires, it was a laugh and just what I needed.

Well in ttc land I got +opk on sat morning, Sunday morning and again this morning. A bit weird as I never had smileys three days running. Anyhow the pre seed did the trick we dtd sat and sun but now we should really tonight also due to +opk and ff has not confirmed ov yet from my temps.!!!

elsabel · 19/11/2012 09:13

Hi all, hope everyone had a good weekend. Mine was quite relaxing which was good went to the cinema a couple of times, to see the new bond movie and also dragged the boyfriend along to see the new twilight one aswell! Anyone seen either?

How is everyone, hope youre feeling better mrs? Ive been half expecting to catch something myself although ive had the flu jab thankfully.

Fingers crossed for this month for both of you, and hopefully this is a shorter cycle for you munch, i know next to nothing about pre seed or other supplements but hopefully they bring you some luck.

How are you Tas? X

mrsnec · 17/11/2012 09:22

I know Munch. DH skyped them last night and they made big announcement again as neither of us had commented or 'liked' scan pic! I feigned a congrats and then went to watch telly in the other room. Thankfuly, the cat followed and fell asleep on me so I couldn't move and get involved in the rest of the conversation! (I love that animal! She's so on my wavelength!) anyway, DH has decided he wan't to go too to see the baby when it's born. I'm surprised he's taking an interest to be honest. I'm not sure what to make of it but really I'm just hoping he has a little one of his own to worry about by then! Anyway feel a bit better. My lergy didn't develop into full blown flu thankfullu just really annoying sniffles still hanging around! Hope you're all ok. Any news? Have a great weekend!

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MunchinMango · 15/11/2012 09:25

Mrs rant away. I can't believe such deceit and conniving!!! Sure we knew no one makes a grand announcement that they are ttc. You would have had more respect for them if they just said they were pg at the weekend. But maybe maybe they do know yous are ttc and in their silly twisted way thought this was a better way to break the news ????? Your right though mil seems to be very close to them. Hope you feel better from flu soon.

mrsnec · 15/11/2012 07:06

Morning All! Yes it was a total set up. They are pg. The obligatory 3 month scan pic went up on FB the other day. And MIL knew all along as her trip to the UK next year coinsides with the due date.Obviously I'm happy for them but Why can't they all be normal and honest? And why the build up so they can make the big announcement twice? Back to you Munch apologies for that epic rant! I think I'd be the same as you in your situation. I try to be an onwards and upwards kind of person can make the situation a lot worse by dwelling on the what ifs. I'd love to have thoughtful friends like yours though! Good luck with the pre seed. Not tried it but do remember having a chat about it on the old thread. For now I've decided I'm only going to try things to boost my fertility that have other health benefits. Like the B vits. I've ordered progesterone cream as low progesterone goes with LPD and I have symptoms of oestrogen dominance. Been reading up on all that. It's very interesting. Anyway, if that doesn't work it also helps PMT issues and is less likely to mess up cycles than if you take some of the herbal supplements. Looking forward to trying again this month too but am fighting off the lergy at the moment. Keep telling myself it's not flu!

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MunchinMango · 14/11/2012 23:36

Mrs so you were set up then!!! You'd respect them more if they just asked you straight out.

I think your right my friend was doing her best but I actually think I don't want to remember the significance of this month. I kept myself going all year saying if I got pg before my due date it would be ok. But alas not to be. I'm on cd 9 now and hoping hoping that I get a shorter cycle and a chance to ttc. I ordered some pre seed so see what that does. What about you???

Hope all is ok Tas?

mrsnec · 13/11/2012 12:23

Hi All, yes Tas do let us know how things went and Els yes I hope the time goes quickly and your scan is here before you know it. Munch I'm not quite sure what to say about your friend. It does sound like her heart is in the right place and you sound like you are fine in yourself so no harm done. Tell her how you feel though. I must admit, with my friends who've had MCs I never talk about it or bring the subject up unless they do but I have often wondered if this is the right approach or not. Definately something that varies from person to person. Thinking of you anyway and glad you escaped flu too! Yes not paranoid, very strong feeling you're right about DH's family. Couple in question is DH's DU. MIL is one of 5 siblings. DU (her DB) is the only member of her family she's not estranged from. As he's close in age to DH and DH is an only child they were raised like brothers, lived together, went to college together etc. MIL dotes on their daughter. But constantly compares their lives to ours in terms of finances and quality of life etc. It was all a bit odd having a nice time and all of a sudden MIL says 'gather round Skype' DU's got a big announcement! Think I would have felt better about it if they were actually pg! I do sometimes think it's a bit more pressure for us. MIL retired early and I think is very bored. DH isn't phased by the whole thing and I did point out that they've not visited us here yet earn good money, we've not seen them for 5 years and they say they're to busy to return DH's calls so they're irrelevant to me. Although I did get in trouble when I said that!

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MunchinMango · 13/11/2012 10:57

Hiya ladies, I typed a message last night and it wouldn't post so lost message arrgh!!!

As great news about the blood results and prob best to delay your appoint as there will be more to see even though I can imagine the wait being torturous. How did dh get on yest? I hope all went ok.

Els thats great news about your friend. It will be so nice for the two of yous being pg together. Roll on the next two weeks til your scan.

Mrs that is soo bazaar people making grand announcements about their intention to ttc!!! Also a very insensitive thing to do. They didn't by any chance stage the whole thing to try and find out what your intentions are re ttc. Or am I being super paranoid here ?? Well done to dh on the healthy eating, need to send some of those vibes to me and my dh LOL.

Had a bit of a down day yest. My friend rang me to suggest that we go out (nothing wrong there) and said that she didn't want this month to go without us marking it and I said why and she said well you were due your baby this month and I just burst out crying. She was being very thoughful but I guess I was trying not to think about it. Anyhow dh is grand again and we hopefully are not going to catch it.

mrsnec · 12/11/2012 06:06

Morning All! Munch How's DH? Got rid of that flu yet? Did the rest of you escape it? It is a good sign that your AF is back to normal. Tas and Els really glad you're both doing well. Tas sending positive thoughts your way re the hearing. Let us know how it goes and I think they've done the right thing with your appointment.Els, that's lovely news about your friend! Anyway, hope you all had a great weekend. I appreciate your understanding of my situation. I've been thinking about it and I decided it was worse as I was on my own. DH was here setting up the business and I was hundreds of miles from my friends and my parents and not on here at the time. I took the 3 PCTs involved in the case (there was a bit more to it) to court and lost. But this time I now know that if I do need any treatment for anything I'm not on my own and I also have the confidence and good judge of character if I don't like the sound of what somebody is telling me. Anyway, hope it doesn't come to that, it's not just the doctorphobia thing, both of us want to do things as naturaly as possible. Bit of a strange weekend here, DH has some close relatives the same age as him. She's just gone back to work after having her daughter a couple of years ago. Anyway they've made a big announcement that they're going to try for their second after she's worked enough to get more maternity pay entitlement. Thought you only made big announcement when actally pg? Am I right in thinking this is a bit odd? Acted happy for them but inside was seeting and thinking no! We're next! Then cross with myself for getting all bitter and twisted in my old age! It did lead to everyone asking us as per. I just said maybe one day and walked away. My family know but as this is DH's family I feel it's his place to tell them if he wants to. On the subject of DH he's drinking less and as we've got loads of fruit on the trees at the moment he's snacking on that and less junk so I'm hopeful he's in better health for the next round! Have a great Monday all, yes where is everyone else?

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elsabel · 11/11/2012 17:18

Mrs thats a really awful thing you went through and can completely understand why you feel the way you do. Its easy to say go to the doctors, i know i avoid it at every cost (unless its about pregnancy in which case I am bugging them every week wanting and appt for reassurance!!)

Tas you will feel much better after youve seen a heartbeat it definatly is a huge comfort. And at least you have the reassurance that all appears normal now. I have my fingers crossed for your dh, hope all goes well.

I had my scan date through yesterday for the 23rd, so less than 2 weeks to wait now. I found out yesterday that my best friend is also pregnant and shes only a month behind me so thats excellent news. Im so happy for her even more so as she has pcos so they wondered if they might have trouble conceiving but it appears not.

Hope everyone has had a good weekend, lets hope the others join us on here soon x

tasjaSAmuminSA · 11/11/2012 14:12

Hi ladies
Mrs-I can understand your doctorphobia. I would also feel that way.
I tried to chat on thursday but my internet wasn't working!
The gyno phoned and told me that the bloodtest looked fine and that he want my appointment for the 20th must be moved on for the 27th because it's still very earlly days. He want to see mee when I'm a bit further.
So hoping everything goes ok this time and anxious to see the heartbeat for the first time. Then I'll relax.
DH's disciplinary hearing is tomorrow afternoon. Please say a prayer for him and keep your fingers crossed!