Elderberry Pavlovas Unite - the over 30s TTC number 1

I know winkle. I also asked him if a mole looked normal he said yes, why was I asking. I replied that it just looked odd, and because my mum had a malignant melanoma I thought I ought to check. He then said that as my mum had it, it was indeed 'probably cancerous' and said he would refer me. He didn't do that either. I obviously wrote to he practice manager about him...

And I don't really have the problem of dryness either - sorry if TMI - but heard it was good so gave it a bash anyway!

I don't really have the problem of dryness so I'm wondering if I need it?

I've been using Conceive Plus for a couple of cycles to no joy yet. However it makes dtd a bit easier when I'm not completely in the mood and it's not going to do any harm.

janey thats terrible that he shouted at you!

Quod - I had a big row with my GP about this last time. He said I had to be referred to my local hospital. I said I thought I'd read that you could choose - he was furious, banged on about how much extra work it was for him, and then as it turns out, didn't bother to refer me to anyone

Anyway just choose a hospital. If/when you move you can choose to move hospitals if need be - the hospital told me you could change hospitals right up until you're in labour!

Thanks quod and janey - we tried conceive plus back in May but it didn't work for us. If it helps them to swim further and love longer then I think that's what we need? Will look into it.

Ahhh great news Winkle - it must be so good to have a) answers and b) progress. I am seconding the Conceive Plus - we used it for the first time the month we conceived.

Janey I have got my first doctors appointment on Friday. I am already thinking about where I want to be referred to, as we are trying to buy a flat at the moment and will be moving to a different area of London. I'm not sure how all that works to be honest.

Oh and re fuelling the obsession, to be frank I think that as soon as you start ttc it naturally becomes an obsession, and as far as I'm concerned I've just gathered tips and support from here - there's nothing wrong with that....? Never heard of babycentre - perhaps I need to expand my obsession?!

Oh well done your DH - it's brilliant it's improving so much. Might be worth trying some conceive plus (the lube stuff) - can't remember if you are already, but apparently it helps them swim further and live longer. Who knows if it's true, but I got my BFP on month two of using that with the ov predictor kit, so I'm a fan!

janey - the docs at my practice are useless, this doctor is the only good one and you have to wait weeks for an appt. So glad we waited and saw him though, the other 2 we have seen didn't really seem to know what they were talking about.

I know people say going on mumsnet and babycentre etc fuels the obsession but I've learned so much from these types of forums - that contributed to the docs saying we were doing all the right things.

Thanks both :)

He said that he would refer us for IVF if we want - we are eligible. We've come home to talk about it.

He also said everything about me is fine, bloods, etc, and it is probably the morphology that has been the issue to date. But he also said it only takes one! Hub's count had increased from 35 mill to 48 mill! So I really feel like it's not going to be long now :)

Oh it does all sound positive winkle. I'm hoping he's right - that would be lovely...
I bet my doctors on Thursday are nothing like that. They're all utterly useless - but then again I suppose all I need them to do is refer me to a midwife who isn't quite so useless, so hopefully it won't matter if they're crap (again)....

Sounds great Winkle.
I love the sound of your doctor.

Jjust wanted to let you all know we went to the docs today to get referred to the next stage and also get the results back from my husbands SA. Good news - the morphology (which was 1% last time) was up to 2% (4 is classed as normal) so we are so pleased the lifestyle changes he has made seem to be helping!

Feeling so much more positive now. The doctor was great. We had a good long chat and he told me everything we were doing was right and he hoped that next time he saw me it would be for an antenatal appointment :)

thanks Rache, interesting article.

good to hear hub is on his way back Quod :)

For those still trying, you may need to get your boys out jogging if they aren't already....
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121031110742.htm

Hazle I started and ended a cruise in San Juan last Christmas so I didn't really see that much of it but I would say it's as nice as any of the Caribbean islands from the small bit I saw of it and I bet the weather will be glorious in February.

Quod I generally regard myself as being quite reasonable and level-headed but ever since the BFP I have turned into a worrywart mentalist! One minute I am convinced it's all over and the next I'm reading Which? reviews of the best breast pumps and browsing maternity clothes Oh well, only 233 more days left I'm glad your DP is finally on his way

Ladies, I mean it in the nicest possible way when I say I am glad you are all having AF cramps as well

quod it's very hard, but I have the same, soreness comes and goes, no need to panic.

I'm thinking about a winter holiday and my mum and sister are going to Puerto Rico for February - would be nice to see them, as we're all living in different countries. Anybody been? The flight is shorter than to Thailand so could also just go for a week or so.

Rach sound pretty normal to me - I've had some crampy sensations too. I have managed to wind myself up for an hour this morning because my boobs were less sore than yesterday and have to give myself a stern talking to about the fact that symptoms come and go, everyone is different, no, you may not 'feel' pregnant etc etc. It's very hard not to be a bit mental isn't it?

Zombie - agree, not out til AF is here.

DP is on a plane finally and winging his way home - hurrah! I added up the rest of the days he is away this month and it's actually only 9 days I'm at home alone (going to visit my parents for a few days too) for the foreseeable which makes me feel better - he''s been away loads for the past few months and I am pretty over it now to be honest.

Haha by craps I meant cramps. Oopsie.

Oh and hazle - just had all my dental work done. Two massive fillings, including replacing a root canal, and was allowed injections, phew. Apparently only one type is advised against when pg. Now dribbling at my desk - why didn't I go at the end of the day instead of the start?!

Hi kitten and welcome!

zombies - I'm with hazle and rache, until AF arrives you just never know...

rache - yes, loads. Two days ago I was absolutely certain it was all going wrong, proper pains and then thought I felt AF arrive. No, it was just CM and the craps have gone away now. Oh and my nipples really sore again, despite being OK for a few days. And I know this isn't very positive, but when I had the mc at 12 weeks I didn't have any pain whatsoever until everything was well underway, and then the pain was much worse and entirely different to AF pain. So I think all very normal!

pip hilarious. I think that's me off meringue for a while...

sorry zombies but it's not over yet! False negatives are very common.

Rach yes, very often - totally normal apparently.

Zombies when is/was AF due? If she's not here yet then surely there's still hope?

Are any of you PG ladies getting AF-style cramps? I appear to have stopped spotting but seems have been replaced by dull cramps for the last few days. I'm sure some cramping is normal as things grow and stretch but this really feels like AF is on the way.