Elderberry Pavlovas Unite - the over 30s TTC number 1

Yes, moaning here does help - mainly because I don't want to become a right miserable cow in real life!

And yes, life is full of worry it would seem. And there are indeed thousands of things that could go wrong, but thankfully the odds are against that.

On another note, been at work almost two hours and it's already driving me mad. Is it Friday yet?!

Thanks janey I'll be ok, but it does help to whine here.

It's horrible, isn't it? First we worry about finding a decent DP/DH. Then about getting the BFP. Then about keeping it. Then about 1001 things that could happen during pregnancy and delivery. And then about the DC, for the rest of our lives..

Maybe should just get another dog?

Oh Hazle please try not to worry - from speaking to friends I think that's very normal - symptoms of pg literally arrive and disappear overnight, and the breast tenderness is only a symptom of very early pregnancy? Will keep absolutely everything crossed for you.

Try not to stress too much about work as that can't be good for you. Maybe have a look at the pic of your lovely pink house (don't think about the kitchen cupboards) and your lovely dogs, bound to cheer you up.. And maybe even rache's puppy too - will def bring a smile to your face!

Hm I'm a bit worried. Breasts were extremely sore until last evening, but this has disappeared overnight and they're barely tender now. Apparently, according to the internet, this is normal, but the exact same thing happened last time..Oh well, nothing to do but wait and see what happens.

Monday did not start that well. Woke up to 25 work emails (since midnight), everybody wants something and would they have a simple yes/no questions? Ha. Honestly, I've seen your employment agreements guys, what the heck are they paying you for if I have to do your job as well? My boss is not much better - "But does this contract include that clause?" Um, well, considering that all this discussion is about adding or not adding that clause, a wild guess but.. no?

And our kitchen needs to be painted, it's currently all covered in horrible plastic. Painter says he'll come this week or next, as he's also painting the exterior of some other house and can't do it if it rains, so he'll do ours if the weather is bad. Well excellent, it's October and of course it's always raining, you'd think. Guess what - the weather forecast is sunny until Saturday. Sigh.

Can you tell that I'm a bit grumpy?

Ooh good question lol - I'm getting confused about that. I got the smiley face this morning so presume we're to DTD tonight and tomorrow, and maybe weds for luck? We did last night too actually - although DP did ask 'is this a pointless shag'? Romantic devil... I thought it was, but with hindsight maybe it wasn't a bad idea!
And lol - I've used it this month and last, and the smiley face appeared at exactly the time I would have predicted, so I guess once you've used it once you'll have some idea of when to expect it the next month. I've also entered it onto the 'my days' free app on my iphone, which is proving to be very accurate at predicting everything (and no hassle), so might be worth a look...
WHO KNEW this was all so tricky!

How do u know smiley is about to come up? Do u get a high reading or something on the day or two days before?

I am using the CB ov sticks for the first time this month and I opted for every day on the run up to getting the smiley face (CD 14 for me), and then on the day itself and for a few days afterwards. It might not have worked but I feel like we gave it our best shot!
I am also having a bash at tracking BBT and the results of this so far this month seem to suggest that I am some kind of yo-yo temperatued freak :-/

I would go for the day you get the smiley, next day and one after. So 3 days in a row. Although dtd before that too - I usually start at cd10 and go for it every other day.

I decided to use the cb ov thingy next month if I'm not pg this one. Not the cbfm though as I think that might be even more hassle.
Question - when u get the smiley everyone talks about, when are you supposed to shag? This is all very confusing!

Thanks Winkle- knowing about your experience helps.
At some point presumably it will get the point :)

A friend said that she struggled when ttcing her second as all the mums at birthday parties and the like were pregnant.
One of the women at work is pregnant and that's all the conversation in the staff room now.

Pipbin I have spent all day in Hoar Cross Hall's Eden Day Spa and at least half if the women in there were up the duff. I think I will be avoiding such places during the rest of this TTC process!

Pipbin I know what you mean - sometimes it seems like all that's on tv is baby programmes or some character in some show you're watching gets pregnant (Downton) how dare they! Yes we are probably being sensitive or perhaps we should write to the Consumer watchdog types and tell them to hold off broadcasting baby-related things at least until we all get our bfp's? ;)

I think it gave me highs from cd6 the first month I used it. Then peaked cd13. On month 3 of using it and it starts giving me highs from around cd10 nowadays.

winkle yes it's the first month with the machine. I haven't quite crushed its spirit yet

Zombies is it the first month using the machine?

Is everything in the world about sodding babies or is it just me being sensitive?

I think it's similar, yes zombies. No smiley face on OPK yet this month, but due around tues hopefully... I had a 28 day cycle last month - which is actually a couple of days longer than usual...DP is out tues and weds nights - may well have to jump him when he gets in from the pub!

Welcome newbies!

janey are you and I on a similar cycle?

On cd12 of my stupid 40 day cycle so at least another ten days before I ov. Have already DTD 4 times this week though so hopefully we don't run out of steam in the next ten days!!
CBFM has been showing two bars since cd6 and DH and I have been calling it a very optimistic little machine- ie it clearly is taking the view that my cycle is far shorter than it actually is. Anthropomorphising my machine, but basically by next cycle (no 2 with CBFM) it'll have realised it needn't bother showing two bars till cd17 at least!

Totally relate to all of this - I can waste SO MUCH TIME in 2WW.
My DP knows I MN - I have been MNing all through a lengthy wait to conceive too!

Blarg and Lol I think we'll all be POASing at the same time this month.

oh yeah rache I definitely don't want dh to know about me coming on here! I only come on forums on my phone!

and I hear you about the internet. hard to not to obsess and going online definitely makes it worse!

Hi blargl, I find myself sneaking on here while DH is not looking because he thinks these forums are for nutty women who have nothing better to do than spend there time obsessing over TTC, which in my case is true

Does anyone else wish the internet did not exist during the 2WW? Google is definitely my enemy with its wealth of conflicting information on every completely imaginary symptom I have I don't think TTC women had this angst when all they had for reference was their local library

yes we did lol and I think we discussed cycle lengths there too! yeah I feel bad about dh too. I'm trying not to act too mental about it especially because he thinks talking about it too much will jinx it...so I have to talk to myself in my head (definitely mental) or come on here! haha

Hi blarg. Welcome. I'm sure we met on some other thread. I'm on cd21 today of a 32-33 cycle so I think we are due around the same time. I'm not too hopeful as only DTD twice over fertile window. Spent the rest of it arguing with DH over silly shit. He said I'm obsessed with ttc and I went mad cause its true