Elderberry Pavlovas Unite - the over 30s TTC number 1

there you go Quod:
www.amazon.co.uk/Conceive-Plus-Fertility-Lubricant-Tube/dp/B002V0ZJ4Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350485224&sr=8-1

Quod - I can help with this one. Conceive plus is a special type of lube that unlike other lubes doesn't harm sperm. In fact, more than that, it's meant to help them on their way, and I think even contain stuff that might help them hand around/live longer. It's not cheap (£19 or something?!) but I've invested in some (having never ever used lube before!).

Prepared to try almost anything!

Congratulations Rache1, what brilliant news!

And congrat Hazle to making to to the 2-3 mark. I hope you are able to start to relax a little about it now.

Pipbin, I am loving your patented method! However, how do I tell what is a Conceive Plus contribution please tell me?

Turns out Dh has not been paying attention that well. Asked him to call the doc, as while the doc speaks English, the receptionists do not (and I've only just started French classes). He gets back to me complaining that they didn't quite understand him. Apparently he had told them I'm 2-3 weeks pregnant, like the CBD said, but that last AF was mid-September. No wonder they were confused

Pip - are our men the same person?! I think I ov'd on mon too, and DTD sun and mon. Last night he was fast asleep too - we've worn them out

Congratulations Rache.

Unfortunately DH fell asleep last night, no no DTD.
I'm fairly sure I OVd on Monday and we DTD on Sunday night so I'm hoping that was it.
DH was so apologetic this morning. He said that he doesn't want to contribute to making me sad each month.

Thanks guys - and can you believe I did it without any help from Babydust? Yes Hazle and janey you did tell me so and I refused to believe it! I have been spending so much time looking at charts on FF this month that I was convinced that you had to have loads of symptoms to be preggers because all the BFP charts on there seem to have. I spotted on 2 occasions which were 4 days apart (still unexplained), my temperature chart looks like an erratic ECG and aside from that I have no symptoms other than my usual PMS so I really wasn't expecting it!
Still it's very early days though and no, I won't be leaving this thread - I want some more Summer baby buds so I look forward to all your BFP's

Oh Rache that's amazing news!! Don't worry about what's happened - you can't change that, and to be fair I'm not changing my behaviour in the 2ww at all - it's all about what you do from this point on . And try not to worry, yes, things sometimes go wrong - but odds are in your favour that they won't. And, as you say, at least you now know all your bits are indeed working!

Don't you go leaving us all now though - you and Hazle are in for the long haul with the rest of us I'm afraid

hazle - am feeling a little smug, we DID tell her so, didn't we?!

Congratulations Rache!!! That's brilliant news!

Congratulations!!!
See, we told you so

I am sooooooo impatient! My BBT this morning shot up to an astronomical figure (which I am reasonably sure means death is about to occur), so I tested with a FRER. While waiting I was wondering how I would break the news of a positive to DH and decided I would politely wake him up with a coffee and then pass him the stick and we would have a lovely moment. When the two lines appeared DH was woken up with shrieks from the bathroom along the lines of "OMG OMG OMG WTF AAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!" and came running naked along the landing to see who was violently attacking me - not the lovely moment I had hoped for!
So, I got a BFP Now the shock is subsiding a I have mixed views about it. I am obviously overjoyed that we have managed to conceive and that I appear not to be infertile (one of my previous worries), but I am still a few days off AF being due so I am worried about it being chemical and all of the other problems which may occur over the next 9 months if I get that far. I spent the weekend of the 5/6/7 pretty much plastered for all of it and last weekend I went to a Day Spa and spent all say in Jacuzzis, Saunas and other activities not recommended for pregnancy so in the 2 weeks since conception I really haven't been the best example of motherhood

Ah hazle bless your DH getting so excited! And glad you got your 2-3 weeks this morning - all progressing in the right direction. Will keep fingers crossed for you...

zombie - I KNOW. For some mad reason I decided this month that I felt 'fertile' (whereas last month I didn't) so think the 2ww is going to be more unbearable than ever. Do you like the fact I think I can tell if I'm fertile or not?!

rache - hazle is right. When I was pg last year (had a mc at 12 weeks unfortunately) the very early cramping feelings do feel very much like the onset of AF, kind of weird shooting pains and crampy feelings. It's apparently 'just' your uterus stretching and moving so you never know... Fx for you.

And finally pipbin - that is AWESOME. Well done you for patenting such a brilliant invention. Presume we'll see you on the next series of Dragon's Den?!

My DH was quite clueless about the whole thing, but has been reading a lot recently and is actually getting more excited than me. Was always asking if it's time to test yet and very happy when the CBD showed us 2-3 weeks this morning
Rach early pregnancy cramping can be exactly like AF about to make appearance, so fingers crossed!

The men really have a difficult time getting it I think or maybe they choose to ignore it
DH has clearly told me not to share anything with him about the cycle and the days and the CBFM etc. I thought he would be ok but it turns out he is like every other male apparently the sense of mystery is gone.
Heck. This whole 2 ww (3 in my case!) and the whole am I- am I not thing, waiting for ov to happen thing is not even something one could try to explain I think. Thank goodness for MN! I would've imploded in RL. As it is I sulked surreptitiously last night because we didn't DTD.

Happylass I've had a few pre-AF twinges tonight so now i'm doubly convinced that she's on the way. Not over yet so fingers crossed for us both.

Bunnygirlie My DH is taking minimal interest in this whole process apart from being pleased that I want his 'contribution' quite regularly! I think he feels like he would rather just let it happen naturally rather than BBT charting, OV testing, symptom spotting, online forums, etc., whereas I am far too impatient to just wait for it without doing everything in my power to get up the duff as quickly as possible.

No Rach I've resisted all temptation to POAS again so far. Feel like AF is on her way now as well so convinced this isn't my month. Manchester and cycle 2 here I come!

Well Quod, being of a scientific bent I have been testing for a fool proof way of telling EWCM form other 'contributions". I get stacks of EWCM and this time, stacks of 'contribution'.

So, I present the Pipbin patented method of telling lady's and gentleman's emissions apart!
Upon finding a questionable material on your toilet paper, simply press another piece of toilet paper on it. If the substance soaks into the paper and disappears then it is Gentleman matters, if it stays on the surface and stretches then its EWCM.

Thank you.

I'll be testing on 28th with you quod! Argh why us it so long away....?

Thanks everyone - Rache that's interesting to hear.... sounds like you were more clued up than me....my GP did mention the pill but said to leave it a bit longer. I'm slowly coming round to the understanding that ttc is going to be more of a long-distance run than I'd anticipated (I never was good at running) but it'll definitely be worth the wait.

Sorry to hear that Aquarius.

Well I have OVed in the last 48 hrs by the look of my temp shift - only managed to DTD twice in the fertile window, but it was fairly well timed just before OV so I think I've bought a ticket for this month's Two Week Lottery.

We also tried Conceive Plus for the first time this month - anyone else used that? I thought DP's spermies might appreciate their swim being made a little easier and apparently it's got some stuff in it that sperms appreciate (I reckon maybe it's like giving them a snack and a bottle of lucozade half-way through a channel swim?). Only downside is you can't tell, the day after, what is EWCM, what is Conceive Plus and what is DP's contribution. Sorry.

So who's lined up for testing around 28th of Oct?

Sorry to hear that Aquarius. I used to get dreadful period pains when I wasn't on the pill about 10 years ago, then when I was on the pill they were fine. Now been pain free for the last 18 months.

Oddly since my HSG my cycles seem to be shorter. Before I seemed to OV on day 20 and have a 33 day cycle. Now it seems to be day 15 or there about!

Poor old DH, he had tried last night but to no avail. Still I think that I OVd either last night or today and we DTD the night before.

I'm sorry Aquarius... It's gutting, isn't it

Rache - my boobs have thoroughly enjoyed the last two weeks having been prodding-free! But as I think I've just entered the 2ww they're about to begin getting their hourly prod all over again!

Thanks Pipbin I will have a look at some charts, although still not feeling particularly hopeful.

Aquarius So sorry to hear about AF I was on Depo for years throughout my 20's and LOVED not having periods. I stopped having it about 5 years ago in order to get it out of my system because, although I had not met DH at that point, I was hopeful that Mr Right was out there somewhere amongst the millions of nobheads, I knew I wanted to have a baby at some point and I was aware of it taking ages for periods to return to normal. About 18 months after my last jab I still hadn't got my period back so I went on the pill for a couple of months to try to get some sort of cycle going and once I had come off the pill everything seemed to return to normal quite quickly.

Have you cracked and tested yet Happylass? I have to admit I was tempted this morning! I haven't got sore boobs but I think I've made them a bit sore by feeling them all the time to check if they're getting sore I am getting some funny looks at work