Elderberry Pavlovas Unite - the over 30s TTC number 1

So couldn't wait... POAS this morning (first response told me it wasn't too soon ) and got just the palest ever BFP! I literally cannot believe it.... So happy

I just had to test after the stitch yesterday - I knew it was odd, and thought I remembered it from last time.

Really really hoping things go ok this time....

Negative test but still no AF

It is guaranteed that when you wipe after POAS that AF is there. She hides waiting for the stick.

Thanks Pipbin, I was hoping you'd all tell me to stop being so silly though. I've hidden my sticks to PO in the car so I'm not too tempted. Perhaps if I DID POAS sods law dictates that AF will turn up the next day doesn't it? Would be one way to hurry it along

Purple they do say that you have a fertility spike after coming off the pill, so who knows.

No AF for me yet either, finished my last pill about four weeks ago and have been feeling crampy for about three flipping weeks but nothing. Every day I think, oh DEFINITELY today but so far nothing. Trying to put off testing as long as possible though cos I know the chances of getting a BFP already are pretty slim and I don't want the disappointment but my patience is running out!

Hmmm, no AF for me yet. Have been getting on and off cramps and definitely feel like AF is about to come but will test tomorrow as that means I am a day late! Probably just because am off to the doctors tomorrow for blood test results! Pipin, I know how you feel re friends. I have a friend who has never wanted kids and been very anti people that did at times. Just announced she changed her mind and 6 weeks later was pregnant. I wanted to kill her!!! Next time I see her I want to tell her I am pregnant too!!!!

I'm in exactly the same position as you. Didn't manage it the night of the CBFM peak, but we did the day before.

Another woman at work is pregnant. She'd been trying a year apparently. I'm just hoping that these things happen in threes.

Argh nervous times then pip. Annoyingly we didn't DTD on 16th as DP was out until late, and I was fast asleep when he got in. We did on 14th and 15th though so hopefully that might do?

It tends to be on the day after the positive OV and when the EWCM stops. So I'm guessing you OVd on the 16th and are 9 DPO like me!

I've no idea. Is that days past ovulation? I got my smiley face on clear blue ov predictor thing on 15th and had EWCM then too.... So if it was 15th I guess it's 10 DPO? AF is due on 29th, but knowing me, could easily come on 27th or 28th....

How many DPO are you Janey?

As a little aside, I have twice today felt like I've got stitch (once on the left, and once on the right), which is odd given I was sat at my desk both times. Odd? I def don't feel pg in the slightest, and also had the (ridiculously early) BFN yesterday, but am of course thinking this is a possible symptom... Even though us elderberries don't get symptoms that is...

I'm sorry lol, it's gutting, isn't it, especially when accompanied with bad period pains. Rubbish

Hi ladies
Af got me today right on time. At least cycle is back to normal. A bit gutted bit hey ho.
Bought cb ov sticks today and am back on epo. Not sure it's doing anything though.
Having bad period pain

Of course it's fine to mention the mc, janey. we're all old enough to understand that a BFP is not the end of it and not a guarantee that a healthy baby pops out 9 months later.

And symptoms or lack of does not show anything as said. Had very unpleasant morning sickness very early last time, but it did not work out.

So, first scan tomorrow morning, wonder if they can even see anything..

We have a friend who we only see at Christmas.
Last year she told us that she was 10 weeks pregnant after just two cycles of trying. By that time we had been trying 8 months. I'm really happy for her of course, but I had to go off to cry.
This year she will be there with her baby.
I really want my BFP this month so I can tell her this Christmas.

janey your words are very reassuring, I know I am just being silly (and if I didn't I have DH reminding me constantly). I also know nature will do it's own thing irrespective of how much I worry so there really is no point. I didn't know about the lack of symptoms for Elderberries though so that's good news which made me feel better

I am so sorry about your MMC - what a bloody awful thing to go through, especially after the all-good scan at 10 weeks. A good friend of mine had one earlier this year and she has really been through the mill with it. Everything happens for a reason but nature is so cruel sometimes.

oh and ps they have a very small window when they can do the 12 week scan - so I guess when they scan you depends on where that window sits around Christmas....

Hey rache I hope this isn't insensitive, is meant to be reassuring....

When I found out I'd had a mmc at 12 weeks last year, I kind of blamed myself for not going to the doctors about the lack of symptoms I had whilst pregnant. This is what the consultant at the hospital told me.

1. Yes, you are marginally more likely to have a mc when you're over 30 than when you're under it. However the odds are still low.
2. Women over 30 tend to have significantly less pregnancy symptoms than those under 30. However, most of these women then go on to have perfectly healthy babies. Doctors aren't sure why they have less symptoms, but it doesn't mean it's a bad thing, it's just the way it is.
3. I had no symptoms at all, and my baby was fine, developing normally and had a heartbeat at 10 weeks (had a private scan as I couldn't stand the wait and was worried about lack of symptoms). Something sadly went wrong after that. But the doctor pointed out that the lack of symptoms wasn't a bad thing: the baby was fine until 10 weeks, and I was symptomless then too. He said I was just one of the 'lucky ones' in that respect.

So I guess what I'm saying that no symptoms does not equal bad news at all. You're just more likely to have none because you're over thirty. And that was straight from the mouth of a senior consultant at a hospital - not google folklore.

Sorry to have talked about a mc on an otherwise positive thread, but I just hope it might offer some reassurance....

Also, one of my very best friends has just had her 12 week scan (all fine) and she had no symptoms at all until 8 weeks (then she couldn't stop being sick). So you're still in very early days for symptoms anyway.

The odds are with you that all will be fine. It is massively nerve-wracking though I know.

I've certainly got everything crossed for you and hazle.

Hazle I just want some symptoms to show up for reassurance. I genuinely never anticipated how scary this part would be. I was so focused on getting my BFP that I never considered the worry beyond it. DH keeps saying that I might not have many PG symptoms but I also haven't got any pain or bleeding so there's nothing to suggest there is anything wrong. I'm going to have to start listening to him and step away from Google for the sake of my sanity!
It sounds like you have my share of the boobs

I am 5 weeks today and will be 12 weeks on the Thursday before Christmas. Do you think they will get me in for a scan? I really hope I don't have to wait until after Christmas. I am going to New York for New Year and I think it would ruin Christmas and my holiday if I don't know everything is ok.

oh but as for growing boobs - I'm sure it's like with most things in life, they'll only grow if you don't want them to. My bras were getting too small, so ordered some new ones one cup up, and they are just borderline, should have gone up another cup. If they grow one more size, there will probably be only 2 models of bras available, black and beige, both looking like anti-missile body armour. Oh the fun.

Rach was just thinking about the same, besides sore boobs, I don't have anything. No morning sickness, not tired or emotional, not bloated, nothing. So obviously am convinced it must be a mmc, blighted ovum or something. Or maybe we're just lucky.

Rache I nearly always get spotting at this time. I know it doesn't stop all my chances but this is just the same as I normally get. It's clear brown, if that makes any sense. Like brown CM really. I only get it after TMI i have a poo.
I know it's not over until she has sung, but I'm treating it like she has so not to get my hopes up, like saying you are 30 rather than 29 just to get used to it!

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Hooray! I've FINALLY got some symptoms in the form of ever-so-slightly, blink-and-you-might-miss-them sore nipples (although bigger boobs are still disappointingly absent).
I have been observing a July 2013 due date thread and the women on there are all talking about how they have every symptom going, can't stop throwing up, have a bloated belly and are getting into maternity clothes already!!! I am going to have to stop watching it because my lack of symptoms is making me feel inadequate.

Pipbin brown spotting is a textbook sign of implantation. Is your spotting usually red or pink? I didn't feel it either and still don't. It's not over until AF has sung