Round up your ghosties and ghoulies and long legged beasties, the BESH are going to scare out the BFPs!

Dunno yet Faithy. Sometime in 2018 I should imagine

We are doing Teh Sechs at the moment though it does feel a little futile.

Yes, rie sums it up excellently - my menkulling included tiredness, erratic crying, wanting to be violent towards MSB, spotting, nausea (especially on waking) and actually vomiting!
Month I got my BFP, I wasn't even really aware of when the droid was due. 'twas only that I had a hypo at 11dpo and vomited at 12 that made me think I just wonder. Weird, yes? I was tired and had sore buzzwams but put all symptoms down to PMS.

When do you start rierie?

Ah, so my reading of a fluffy, adorable story complete with happy ever after ending and ending up all swimmy with tears is a menkul, then? I'm due at the weekend

Bugger. Strike out fail. I blame the bracket.

And probably murdered husbands.

"What is a menkul?"

We have to begin at the beginning! . A menkul is just a mental phase usually brought about by PMT and involves incessant, probably-hopeless symptom spotting e.g womble aches and pains MUST be implantation pains, onset of droid is SURELY implantation bleeding, sore boobs are DEFINITEY preggo-boobs etc etc etc. That's the TTC menkul at least.

General BESH menkul is anything you get vaguely mad about e.g two weeks ago I cried for more or less two days on hearing that my SIL was pregnant again and was totting up the number of ways that my life was generally crap and how I was generally a rubbish, awful, useless person. Again PMT inspired. There will shortly be amongst the BESH (I imagine) all kinds of needle-inspired menkul, whether that's Jethro's Akchool IVF, or my IUI (again involving hormones, needles and probably murdered husbands).

Basically it's anything mad which is usually hormone inspired.

Feel free to add....

What is a menkul?

Of course you will be fine!

I too love plucking hairs.

Norf, we'll be fine!

I love plucking hairs out of myself (and anyone else who stands still long enough) so that bodes well.

Massive sigh at the strong assumption that I'll end up at that point.

Anyone got a menkul to share?

norfy it is a bit weird, sticking a needle through your own skin, but you just have to go for it. TBH, it hurt me less than plucking an eyebrow hair. The needles are very fine.

Some people get their OHs to do it, so they don't have to deal with that mental barrier. But I just took a deep breath and went for it.

I have Menopur waiting in the fridge for me [joy] I'm sure I'll screw up the mixing or summat [klutz]

Gonal-f pens sound like insulin. I imagine it's something that seems complicated initially but becomes routine quite quickly. As long as you have some belly fat it's not too painful to inject.

Today MSB is building a shed base. I feel like crap so have crawled back into bed!

Did you have any sort f mental block about actually sticking it into yourself, euro? A bit like the mental block about tearing off a plaster I suppose - the knowledge that it might hurt kicks in?

To those asking about stabbing, it really is fine. I've done a trigger shot on my Letrozole attempt and two weeks of downregging. I'm not bothered by needles and it really didn't hurt. You just grab a bit of tummy chub and stick the needle in. It really is as simple as that.

We didn't get as far as using the Gonal F pens but we were given the demonstration. They have a dial system and you have to change the needles on them each time. They didn't look too bad. I think menopur is the one you have to mix from sachets and that looks a bit more complicated, but we weren't going to use that so I don't know the details.

BTW, the first few injections I did completely by myself. After that I decided KFZK should be involved, so I got him to prep the injection for me each evening.

Stabbing sounds quite complicated. Interesting, though. Take notes for us, Jethro!

Futility Friend has rearranged my ov day from 17 to 22. I have no clue if it's remotely correct. Day 22 is the day of mystery spotting, does that help or hinder the idea?! We shall see. Droid is bound to arrive on time in any case, though, why break the habit of a lifetime, etc...

Did someone mention me

I've had my protocol letter. We need to order the drugs then book in for a stabbing lesson. Then I need to start on CD21. I think as I'm on CD 12 now we won't have enough time this cycle so will wait until next one. Also gives me a bit more time to get my head round it all. Even though it's been almost 3 years I never really thought it would actually happen.

Quite soon I think. Don't know exactly.

Good luck with the observation, al.

When is jethro doing the stabbing??

We ate celebrating because MSB is now officially on leave too :) we ate having steak (cremated for me of course!) before going out for our next Relate session. Only 1 week til the scan now :)

Commiserations all round for droidal invasions. However I am glad that things are moving forward. Frank good luck with the stabbing, sending baybee winning thoughts your way! bugs you will have your win, blood tests are the first step to winning that sticky baybee. Have a gentle halibut slap.

I have a v important observation to prep resources for, so CGH is cooking tonight! Steak for him, fish for me!

Now then ladies, none of this "self stabbing". Apparently it really doesn't hurt and it's nothing like normal injections . We must ask Jethro as she is about to get her first lesson.

Faithy, your poor friend :(

Eek! I must admit, I am really not looking forward to any self-stabbing that comes my way.

Had prepped everything for a roast tonight, but have been overcome with weariness and can't face cooking or eating it.

Thanks all, and sorry about your droid Bugsy.

Clinic called back, they have room so I'm having my baseline scan and blood test on Monday morning. Then, it's self-stabbing time!

Sorry for hogging the sunshine again. I just fell asleep on the living room floor - sun pouring through the back door v soporific! Very odd, mind, I'm not a daytime napper usually.

Sorry for all afflicted by droid. Frankel, I reckon everyone has those hopes, not daft at all. Especially given that the world and his wife has an anecdote about a friend of a friend getting diffed in the cyle before starting IVF (or similar).

Sorry bugs :( But good luck with investigations. Are these the ones for recurrent miscarriage?

Droidal invasions :( Sorry guys.

It's not daft to hope fsr, we all do it.