Round up your ghosties and ghoulies and long legged beasties, the BESH are going to scare out the BFPs!

It's from Cold Comfort Farm, sink. Some old woman kept going on about how she once saw something nasty in the woodshed.

Rethinking things??

Jethro I identify with every word you posted. I never thought I would end up there either. My two best friends had IVF and I kept thinking "what are the odds of all three of us needing it? Surely one of us will get a FCFU?" But apparently not.

Witch I am doing something similar. My work isn't that busy BUT I have been headhunted. No offer yet but we are in talks. It would, fertility-wise, be a dreadful time to move (with more IVF looming) but I feel like I have put my life on hold enough. And this would be a promotion. Hmmmm.

Hola. Am a bit drunk on red wine.

driz, I have punched your SIL in the ovary. Hope that helps.

I also have a friend who "knows how I feel" because she tried for 8 months pre diffedness. Her comment when I went to see her with baybee was along the lines of that I'm lucky to not be able to have kids because they cry a lot. Lucky me. With my insurmountable infertility eh?

Anyway. fsr may I stroke your head in sorrow at Frankles departure. But think of the little Frankles to come!..

Norf, egg-shed? Now I'm thinking Divine Comedy, some thing in the woodshed..

And in me news, have thrown myself into work. This means baybee would be v inconvenient. It's all too much for something that may never happen. And I happen to be quite good at my job. I maybe rethinking things.

I saw something nasty in the egg-shed? a depressing lack of eggs

Cold Comfort Cod.

I like it.

Blimey you lot have been busy! I've had a busy day so only managed to check in once, the cheek of it - work actually expecting me to complete actual work on a FRIDAY. What is the world coming to.

lemon I think I'd have slapped your SIL, what an awful thing to say. The UnBarren really don't get it at all, yet the thing that makes it worse is the fact that they think they do 'know'. But really ..... they absolutely have not got a clue and no amount of telling will change their mind. I have a friend who tries to be sensitive (I think) but then bangs on about adoption/surrogacy/are we having sex at the right time/we obviously aren't doing it right....why am I not watching out for pant snot.... bangs head against wall Drives me potty.

Jethro I sympathise lovely, I'm feeling a bit wobbly about it at the moment and know it will get worse. Until this thread I never thought about why though and I guess it is as you've all said, its about grieving for the life we wanted, the way we wanted to do it. (((((hugs)))))

I'm on day 29 of my 30 day (I reckon) cycle. I feel a bit sick and definitely very tired but starting to get crampy and have had headaches the last few days. I don't know whether to test? I pee'd on an opk and a second line came along but not as thick and dark as the control line so can't convince myself much with that! I might wait until Monday, I really can't face a BFN, it's worse than getting the bitch turn up. And I want to have my bottle of Bulmers Berry Cider.

Of course you're gibbering, lovely. It would be a miracle if you weren't. Don't cry, sweetie. Or rather, cry if you want to and we will all offer our collective shoulder till you have cried it all out and feel better again. You are among ice queens here, who all totally understand the suppressing of mentalness and the awfulness of giving way to it at last.

Who had the Cod of Comfort last and didn't put it back?

Yes, faith. It's particularly galling to be told I'm too fat to be pregnant when so many friends get diffed so easily, several of whom are a good deal bigger than me. It's clearly not that simple! My parents tried for two years to onceive me, apparently, and my mum was a waif compared to me, so I suspect there may be inherited crap-at-getting-diffed issues too. But who knows, it's all "unexplained"

HOTB has departed for his cycling weekend. It's very quiet. I think I might put big bang theory on...

Aww, I know how you feel Jethro, and it is totally understandable and not in the slightest bit daft.

I had my most recent sob-fest in Wednesday when droid showed up and it hit home that it wasn't going to happen "naturally" for us.

It's all a big steaming pile of turd

I sobbed when we were told that a. Our best chance of conceiving was IVF and b. I was too fat and had to lose weight first. I think it's a daunting process and you will avoid accepting its a reality until you face it and once again you're grieving for the life you thought you'd have e.g. An easy win, pure lurve shagging rather than the clinical process. Ultimately the win will be worth it but coming to terms with the clinical process can't be easy. Luff you jeffers!

Aww, Jethro :( When we were told our best chance was IVF I was in a right state. That was way back in May and I still haven't managed to make myself read the info booklets we were given. Crying is a fairly reasonable response, I think.

Gibber away, luffly pal.

Neither did I until last night. I just couldn't stop crying, then this morning we took the dog for a walk and he growled at me then I started crying again. WTF?? I just feel overwhelmed by what I've got to do. I think I've not really allowed myself to think that the IVF would actually happen & now it's here. I'm just gibbering now aren't I

Oh Jeffers :(.

Sorry, didn't realise you were in such a state. Is it the thought of having it, or having to have it, if you see what I mean?

driz what utter wankers. Can't imagine what us barrens do at the weekend? Clearly they have no imagination.

Unused EWCM could also be used for a mousse type pudding....Just sayin.

I am currently having a complete meltdown about actually having IVF. I had snotty, howling tears last night. I am usually an ice queen so SSG didn't really know what to do. I've stopped howling and am ignoring the protocol letter until tomorrow. When I might look at it again.

Ah yes buying 30 years worth of tampax! I told MSB she was better off buying a moon cup!

It was funny. It was advice he was giving to Penny.

I'd love a friend like Sheldon - everything they discuss is so gloriously unembarrassed and unemotional.

No, and am now trying to imagine why he'd want them?! I love Sheldon, even more than Leonard :)

No, was it funny?

Sorry about droid-imminence, giraffe. God I hate periods and all their bastard works.

Did you see the Big Bang Theory the other evening in which Sheldon advocated buying tampons in bulk?

"Homemade" meringues?! Eeeeeeeeeew! Although I'd appreciate the chance, I rarely have any to speak of.

Appearance of droid is imminent. I have been grumpy, teary, and cheerful by turns this morning. Then jumped HOTB, which seems to have accelerated droidal onset. Now have backache and am studiously ignoring the idea of digging out the tampax later on. I've also bought a mooncup, which will be delivered within 14 days, which amuses me - that's about how long the droid stayed last time.

Still, HOTB is going to be away all weekend, so it could be worse timing.

Every other garment in the charity shops round here is labelled EWM. I assume it stands for Edinburgh Woollen Mill, but it isn't half disconcerting.

Oh hello winkly.

Do you care to donate to the BESH Meringue Fund?

Putting an explanation mark after fool would have made it more lighthearted the way it was intended, by the way :) No offence meant, Euro.