Gather up your fertility spells and sign in for the lentil-weaving BESH woo hippy thread!

My IVF disaster involved the following. I should have started the Pill on day 1 but because I have had problems with it in the past, I skipped that bit. On day 21, I started Burserelin jabs (not sniffs) for downregging (I can't remember who asked, but downregging= inducing menopause so all your drug levels are the ones you inject, which can be controlled; not used in short protocol IVF). I got my period pretty much as normal (just a day or two late) and then after about 2 weeks of the drucks, had a scan which showed my ovaries were asleep and my lining was very thing (although I was still bleeding). By this point I was an absolute wreck and mentalist. When they told me I would have to take the Burserelin for another week before starting the stimms, until THEY were ready to fit me into their schedule, I had a hairy fit and gave up. I have never felt as bad in my entire life as I did on the Burserelin. But the Pill makes me suicidal, so I think I have an extreme reaction to hormonal stuff. My two closest RL friends have both had IVF and don't remember anything apart from the odd headache on Burserelin. But they both overstimmed and felt bloated and in pain on the stimming part (which I never got to). BTW, I am still carrying the 10 pounds I put on on the drucks. This seems to be pretty common post-IVF.

FSR I hope it all went well. To my cervix dr appointment a couple of weeks ago, I took a file of research papers and a typed list of questions.

Jethro I'm also pretty evangelical about being open about my fertility ishoos. I don't lack the fact that many consider it a taboo. LIke FSR's bloke says, we wear glasses if our eyes are broken without any shame.

Fizzy that is utterly sh1t. What a stupid policy. Although after the disaster described above, I doubt we will ever see if we can continue our NHS IVF treatment. If we do try IVF again, I think I will go to somewhere like Create that is well practised at mild IVF using fewer drugs. That's kind of what I meant by the rigidity of the NHS process - you do their standard protocol and that is it. Their only concession to my problem with hormonal drugs was to skip the 21 days of the Pill. And that might actually have helped - it would have eased my hormones down gently without doing the emergency stop of going straight onto a fairly high dose of Burserelin.

I'm 13 dpo here and my temp fell off a cliff this morning, so Droid is about to arrive. On to cycle twenty-fricking-three.

lemons that is my plan too - to gently raise awareness of the fact that some people don't get diffed at the first ping of knicker elastic.

jethro I'm not actually that old. Nearly 32 in fact. But my pct won't fund ivf if you're over 34, and you have to have been trying for 3 years prior to that. So despite the fact that we have been ttc since December 2010 , my ectopic last dec re-sets the clock. By the time I'm 3 years post the ectopic, I'll be too old to qualify. Sigh. Fortunately we both earn a decent wage, so would be able to afford the private option with a bit of saving.

Same here jethro. Good job I told everyone also we were having a break after the last one, otherwise I would have gotten some questions by now, I suspect...

if and when I announce I fully intend to leave a clear hint about our troubles TTC in case any of my RL friends are going through this shit without mentioning it

Fizzy how old are you if you don't mind me asking? I never get fizzy feet

Frankierememberme I know how you feel. It's like fertility ishoos cannot be spoken about. Well fuck that, I tell anyone who is prepared to listen that I'm having IVF. I don't care if they feel embarrassed. They aren't going to have to have it. I am & they will bloody well listen when I want to talk about it. . Good luck today anyway I hope it goes well.

Aha all has been explained. Btw arie for what it is worth, I already managed to get quite bad side-effects on the lowest (IUI) dose of m-enopur. But it got me diffed, so massive good luck.

Just popping in to say MASSIVE good luck to frankelina! And I don't feel bad for having needed some help in the getting diffed department, although I did feel terrible (and cried) at the clinic several times.

Now I have to go back to find out who fizzyfeet is. Good name. I get pins and needles in my feet and fizzy stomachs if I am nervous or have eaten more than I can manage

I have made you a pebble wall hanging for luck. I know you will treasure it.

Is it morning or afternoon, fsr? Definitely agree with taking notes with you, and during.

Good luck for today, frank. You probably do this already, but I find it helps to take a notebook with my questions - I have been known to brandish this at the doc when unable to speak for fear of meltdown. Also to write down what they tell you so you can think about it afterwards rather than half remembering. In the meantime, have this jumbo spliff.

norf don't be so silly. Drinking tea in bed is exactly what you need to be doing right now. Don't invent future problems for yourself

Anyone want to kick a small metal fucker in the head for me? Droid turned up good and proper after all today.

I'm desperately anxious at having put too much weight on to qualify for ivf, faith. I've just spent the past two weeks lying in bed drinking sugary tea and eating biscuits. And the few weeks before that I was diffed, so relaxed diet a bit anyway. I'm so scared of getting back onto scales. Not least because if I do start fixing numbers on being overweight I can get a bit mental and unhealthy about getting it off, especially if im a bit unhappy anyway, which really won't help anyone.

X-posts but yes norf we're all so ruddy secretive about infertility!

I cried at my last clinic appointment in a similar vein due to frustration when being told I was too fat for IVF. The frustration was about me being a healthy weight at one point but gaining it all back when I got ill. I think it's ok Frank. They're used to people being upset, it's a very emotive topic!

I wonder if it's because we see so many people wearing glasses and it seems such a totally normal and predictable "cure" for dodgy eyesight. Whereas there is no outwardly visible sign of someone coping with dodgy internals, so it somehow seems rare and shameful and a failure. I definitely feel better and more normal on here where there are so many people talking about their problems an what is going to be done to try to correct them.

Oh Frank didn't see that. What are you concerned about, love?

When I'm up high and looking down, I too get a fizzing feeling. But it's mainly in my bowels rather than my feet.

Bend over for a beating with my sacred willow wand, frankel.

Is there anything in particular you are worried about? Or is it just that it's a likely moment for all the stress to bubble over into snotty blubberiness?