The First Time Frolickers ride again - still trying to conceive their first child

This week hasn't been too easy for me. Been down again about pregnancy losses. Old school friend got back in touch recently, she's due her baby in a week. I'm happy but also sad. She is due a month before I would have been due with my first pregnancy. DH and I are concentrating on home improvements while we have the money so trying to keep my mind on that, though its hard.

This cycle is feeling exactly like last month's, same pains and increased cm. I think it's just another normal AF month. What I would have considered symptoms before just seem to be what my body does after ovulation and before AF. About 7 or 8dpo so still early I guess but not getting my hopes up.

raspberry I can't give up caffeine fully either. Love my tea too much :)

evilgiraffe sorry to hear about the crazy cycles. That sucks. Do you know if there is any reason for it? I too feel jealous of pregnant people. Someone I don't like just had her baby. She's not a nice person. How does she get her "accident" baby and I don't get my planned one? Ugh don't get me started.

CD13 and AF is still here. I am getting really rather fed up. TTC for years is one thing, but bleeding forever is taking the piss. This is the third cycle with AF being about 12-14 days and it's doing my head in.

I feel like a bad person too. Lots of friends have newborns or are pregnant right now (which is fine and lovely, obviously), but one friend recently announced a pregnancy and they're the first people I don't feel happy for. They're the couple who I could never see as parents, and still can't even though they're expecting. I feel no pleasure for them, just jealousy, and then that makes me feel really horrid.

Ratata - lol at the thought of your DH shagging on his own

Fingers crossed for everyone this month!

Thank god for that Ratata, DH shagging on his own won't get you anywhere!

I didn't give up coffee, I just don't seem to get out of the habit of wanting one! I have cut down and now just have 1 cup of coffee and 2 teas a day. The rest is fruit tea so I think I'm within what they say are sensible limits :)

Meant to say "DH and I have been doing copious amounts of shagging" not DH on his own lol

raspberry good luck with the shagging this month and the appointment when it comes.

evil sorry to hear about AF x

I think I'm ovulating this weekend, not totally sure. DH have been doing copious amounts of shagging since end of AF though so giving it a good try. Had a dream last night that I had a stillborn. WTF brain!!! Was pretty sad when I woke up!

Sorry to hear that Evil, onwards we plod :/

Alas, AF arrived bang on time :( It's just so wearing, all this.

Fingers crossed, Raspberry!

Hey Evil, fingers crossed for you! I'm on CD31 and AF arrived yesterday/today so back to 30 day cycle for me this month. On the 4 week count down for next consultant appointment. I don't know whether to be excited or scared. Think I'm going to us OPKs this month and give it a really good shot, see if we can get a bun in the oven before the appointment! Giving up coffee from Monday! Wish me luck.........

Hey everyone. Today is day thirty, AF is due tomorrow. This is my first cycle since ditching work, and the difference it's made to how I feel is immense - I had no idea I was as stressed as I was until it all stopped, if you see what I mean. I'm trying not to get my hopes up though - the first stress-free cycle is probably asking a bit much, isn't it? All the same, I can't help that little flicker of "maybe"...

Glad your appt. went well Frankel. Three cyclesis brilliant. So if it works first time do you get to keep the other two for future? I'm only allowed one which I think stinks, postcode lottery really sucks but i suppose it's not just ivf it applies to, I seem to remember stuff in the news about certain cancer drugs working the same way. Still sucks either way though. Ate you going to have the counselling session? A girl ivf spoken to on another forum has just had one and said it was really really helpful.

Sorry to hear AF got you Ratata but I'm loving your DH's enthusiasm for the new cycle. It's so nice when they are behind you for all of this, it can be quite difficult for them to understand what we feel and why I think, especially when they know the problem isn't with them. I don't know what I'd do without DH, he's just been amazing now, particularly with my next appointment at the consultants creeping up.

I've got a genetics appointment on Monday because I have a rare condition affecting my lungs so apparently they are going to explore whether it will be passed on. My understanding is that the chances are it won't because both parents have to carry the gene but I suppose I dont know if DH is a carrier or not. Then in 5 weeks I see the consultant and hopefully after that I'll have a referral for IVF :) so until then we are just going to have a jolly nice time on the shag waggon :)

Arghhhh AF you can get to buggery. Pardon my French. 11pm and AF decided to arrive. I guess that's me out. Hate how each month I seem to have different symptoms before AF. Sometimes sore boobs and sometimes not. Ah. Oh well. DH has said we need to properly get on the shag wagon next month. Sounds good

Frankel I'm glad you are making progress, and it's totally normal to be emotional about it all. You will probably find that it's the best thing to tell folk in your office especially if it's a small place. It's nice to have some support x

Oh, good luck Ratata

Appointment went ok thanks raspberry. I've got my drugs but can't start until there is room in the treatment programme. I get 3 cycles, but if I have to stop due to under/over stimulation that cycle won't count. I got emotional again and cried at the nurse. She was lovely about it and said there is counselling available if I feel I need it.

I've also told my work colleagues - small office, just me, my boss and 2 others. I wouldn't be able to hide all the appointments from them and rather than them jump to conclusions I thought I'd tell them. I cried at them too!

Fingers crossed for us both then! Will keep you updated x

hi ratata I'm in the same boat. Day late and BFN. Thinking my 'implantation' bleed must have been another little AF :(

Will we get there lady, just keep shagging!

Currently a day late for AF, very mild symptoms. Slight breast tenderness and mild nausea. But negative tests. A bit worried that it's another chemical pregnancy and I didn't test on the day I would have got a positive. Or it could be an abnormally long cycle and I'm not pregnant at all. Either way feeling quite down again about this whole TTC malarky. Also, seeing that Snooki from Jersey Shore managed to have a baby makes me feel even more rubbish!!

Hi again pickle sorry to hear about the diagnosis :( Totally with you on the jealousy of pregnant people.

With you on the CM raspberry I had loads a few days ago and now not as much. Watching OBEM is so emotional isn't it? I hope it's us soon.

Well after obsessing all month I really don't think I am pg. I honestly thought I was as I had so many symptoms but they have gone now and I'm waiting AF any day now. Not 100% when she will arrive but should be by Wednesday. Back to hating seeing pregnant women at the moment. Into our 10th month now.

God, perhaps I am obsessing, I just watched OBEM and cried. I also watched an episode earlier on 4oD and cried :/ deary me.

Hey Pickle! I remember you. I know what you mean about getting obsessive - happens to all of us. Sorry to hear about PCO. Your next steps all sound very routine and although it's a bit daunting it's good that they are looking into it all.

How are you Ratata? Have the headaches gone or has this been a symptom?

How did your appointment go Frankel?

Blimey Evil a 14 day period? Really feel for you, its horrible having them for a few days let alone two weeks :( Mine are usually very painful but gone in 2/3 days. It's great being a woman isn't it!

No news from me, I've given up now and am beyond caring so just shagging when we want to which to be honest seems to be quite often {boast emoticon} (although I shouldn't be too big headed because it doesn't seem to have got us updiffed to date!). However, that said, for the last week although it's going off now, I have had (TMI alert) loads and loads of CM although not massively fertile in appearance. I had to change my pants three times yesterday and its been horrible at work being in the same pants all day! panty liners don't help really. It hasn't been too bad today but I've never been this bad before. Very weird. I'm also massively bloated and constipated and doing really stinky farts and I still have the odd pain on my right side which hasn't really gone away at all so it definitely wasn't ovulation pains Lovely. Only six weeks to go until apt with the consultant again though :) Hopefully will get some movement towards IVF :)

Hi Pickle, good to see you! Sorry about the PCOS, but diagnosis will hopefully be helpful?

It's day fourteen for me, but at least AF stopped a couple of days ago, unlike last month when it dragged on until day sixteen!?! I'm hoping that the drop in stress since stopping work will have a positive effect and with any luck I'll be pregnant before we get referred for IVF (which will be January).

Walks back through door

Hi all Im returning to this post after a few months off as it was becoming a tiny bit obsessive! Anyone remember me? I remember raspberry ratata evil sorry if I've missed anyone off.

My story so far, ttc for 9 months still no sign of pregnancy. Have been diagnosed with PCO & have just been to my 1st gynae clinic. Got to have ovulation bloods & an X-ray where they put dye in to look at my Fallopian tubes & DH has to do a sample! Then go back in 4 months. Sad that I'm having to go down this route & realising its all a waiting game (for appointments & tests etc) & know I'm gona have to be patient (much easier said than done!).
I'm very jealous of pregnant people atm & avoid looking in baby shop windows!
I can remember thinking to myself the 1st month of trying ' I may be pregnant now' oh well bring on September!

Frankel that's good about your appointment to get treatment started x

The only symptom I seem to have is headaches at the moment. Oh hello Dr Google, do tell me what it means? You can often get them either before AF or in the first 6 weeks of pregnancy. THANKS FOR THAT. Dr Google you are fired.

Hello all!

I'm still knocking about. AF is due any day now (not enough sex at the right time to hope for a BFP!) and I've been given an appointment at the Ckinic on Thursday afternoon to talk about getting my OI treatment started.

Fingers crossed for us all!

pinklady sorry to hear your body is being a pain!

I'm expecting AF on Sat or Sun so figured I would test on Friday. I feel barely any symptoms now so I have zero idea whether I could be pregnant or not. I was pretty sure I was a few days ago. Saw a pregnant woman at cinema yesterday and felt quite down, like it's not going to happen easily for us. I'm sure I'm probably being dramatic but yeah, just a bit down!

Name change alert!

hi ratata

oooh, fx for Friday BFP. When are/were you expecting AF? I have no idea where I am. No OV as far as I can tell and 2 AF's and now got that warm feeling down there i get before AF. That we be 3 in one month if it is! :( harumpph.