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TTC Myths Exposed!

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CaveMum · 16/07/2012 08:15

I've been hanging round on the Conception boards for quite a while now (far longer than I ever expected) and have noticed that the same myths/theories/whatever you want to call them, seem to keep cropping up.

As a nation we are useless at talking about fertility issues and as such these myths can perpetuate and end up being taken as fact, so I thought we ought to do a myth busting thread that might help some people better understand things and, hopefully, feel better about the whole process.

So here goes:

Very few women have a 28 day cycle. If your cycle is shorter or longer than this don't panic! It's just a number that Drs like to use.

Most women do not get pregnant straight away. It can take a perfectly healthy couple up to a year to conceive, so again, don'tpanic if it seems to be taking longer than you first expected.

In the same vein, most GPs won't investigate potential fertility issues until you have been trying for 1 year. They really won't be impressed if you make an appointment after only 2 months of trying!

There is very little point in POASing before at least 13dpo. HPTs are only up to 60% accurate before this date, so why waste the money and upset yourself with a potentially false result?

OPKs as HPTs are very unreliable. Just don't go there!

Feel free to add your own Grin

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Pipbin · 17/07/2012 23:42

You need to think about waving rubber chickens.
Right then kick you and I are the test subjects this month. I'm on CD17 and about to OV. I shall think about rubber chicken waving right after sex now until AF. What about you?
If it stays with just us too we could prove rubber chicken waving having a 50 or even 100% effect. Anyone else in?

KickTheGuru · 17/07/2012 23:37

HOLY CRAP!

Just thinking about the rubber chickens has potentially made me pregnant!

Whoop whoop!

Pipbin · 17/07/2012 23:30

That's it then. Rubber chickens are the way to go.
I think we should log how many BFPs we get from women waving metaphorical rubber chickens.

KickTheGuru · 17/07/2012 23:17

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking!! That MUST make it the solution to all our problems!!

Pipbin · 17/07/2012 23:16

I think this could be the one. Rubber Chicken
Y'know I'm sure I read somewhere about a woman who was trying for ages and then relaxed and went on holiday and waved a rubber chicken after sex and she got pg Wink

Minshu · 17/07/2012 22:05

I am now on cycle 18 of ttc #2, and in that time have been certain I was pg due to the symptoms being like my previous pregnancy at least three times. I was wrong, and when I'm honest, I didn't actually have any symptoms that weren't pre-AF until a week or so after my BFP when pg with my DD.

Is there a particular brand of rubber chicken we need? I would hate to waste money on the wrong type.

I want to BELIEVE!!!

CaveMum · 17/07/2012 22:02
Grin
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KickTheGuru · 17/07/2012 21:53

I will dress said child up in a large chicken suit as well.

And we can write books and stuff on the power of magical rubber chickens and their ability to impregnate when waved into the air during intercourse.

Pipbin · 17/07/2012 21:41

You can tell that a year or so down the line when Kick and I have babies that there will be a rush on rubber chickens on Amazon and loads of women swearing by waving a rubber chicken after sex.

KickTheGuru · 17/07/2012 20:57

I am buying a rubber chicken and waving it in the air during sex

Bet that's not a myth

Pipbin · 17/07/2012 20:49

I think part of the problem is that many doctors just don't see a reason to research what is normal in very early pregnancy.
I think the stress of TCCing is only something you can understand when you have been doing it for a while. The TWW is horrible. Yes it's only two weeks but that is a hellishly long two weeks when you are TCCing. As far a researchers are concerned there is no need to research it, nothing is gained by the doctor really.

Anyway as well as Voltaire's comment that I quoted earlier I was also reminded of a phrase my DH uses 'rubber chicken waving'. Its a phrase used in IT for when you do something that has no logical reason behind it working but you do it anyway because it just might. It's as much use a waving a rubber chicken in the air, but you do it anyway. I think so much of what we do when TCCing is rubber chicken waving.

KickTheGuru · 17/07/2012 20:38

Wilde - apologies for how that came out. You're right about one thing - I am quite sad and angry because my doctors have completely cocked this up and they are literally the reason that I can't carry on TTC

I wish there was a magic wand and (as someone said) like...your belly button turns blue if you're pregnant. But there isn't.

Everyone is so very different. The hospital did literally say to me that most people would crash before I did. When I asked how bad I was, she said my bicarbonate level was 0.2 - she explained that with the body releasing ketones and turning acidic, the bicarb is there to "mop up" the acid. Normal levels of bicarb are 21 to 27 mmol/L. My phosphate, potassium, magnesium and electrolytes were all teetering on 0. My body temp was 32 and my veins and arteries had started to collapse - they couldn't get anything.

All of that aside Grin, yeh I am a bit maddened by it.

But I still maintain that the understanding that there are a lot of women who ARE desperate to fall pregnant and since we only have your word for it and that of medical journals and Google - who KNOWS what IS normal??? There isn't something normal. I wonder if I would have reacted differently if I wasn't sure that it could have pregnancy?

HaveALittleFaith · 17/07/2012 20:13

kick I am Shock that they didn't recognise your diabetes until it was that serious! I was similar in that I ran 5k on the Monday, worked busy shift on a ward the next week and got admitted to hospital later that day with abdo pain. I think if you've been told its not serious and you're a trooper you just keep going. All I'd say is it's not common to be diagnosed with type 1 diabetes by your late 20s but still!

Fwiw after 2 1/2 years TTC I've had a multitude of symptoms including metallic taste (I think mine is associated with ovulation). They were most significant when I had chemical pregnancies (two) but I've had nausea and even vomiting which were normal cycles. I swear I never had these when I wasn't on the pill prior to meeting DH!

ArielThePiraticalMermaid · 17/07/2012 19:45

Kick, that sounds fucking awful and I'm not surprised you are angry about it. I would be too. I hope it comes under control soon.

wilderumpus · 17/07/2012 18:05

ok I deserved that. is very strange it wasn't picked up. I was tested for it with only thirst to go on and my MIL was too and she did have it so it seems very odd indeed that with ALL your symptoms it wasn't. I think you should complain because that is dreadful negligence.

however, you are clearly very angry about the diabetes and ttc and I think this comes out in your posts.

KickTheGuru · 17/07/2012 17:56

Blood tests are actually now only about 2 - 3 days more sensitive than a urine test... :)

KickTheGuru · 17/07/2012 17:50

wilde

I had always drunk a lot of water. The thirst got worse over a few years but suddenly in about 2 months went mad.

When I went to my local doctors, they didn't seem overly concerned about the amount I was drinking. Nor about the rapid heart rate, the shaking hands, getting up all night to pee. The trouble was as well is that it crept up on me. I have always gotten up to pee at night. I had fairly large fibroids removed and had convinced myself that the bladder problems were just something left over from the myomectomy.

Since the doctor didn't bother to do either a dipstick or a finger prick test on either of the TWO occasions I went to them in those 6 weeks, I landed up in A&E vomiting and about 4 hours off of a coma.

So was I intelligent enough to pick up my symptoms? Clearly not. I nearly killed myself waiting for it to "go away" or because I genuinely believed (as most people had explained on here) that they could all be related to pregnancy. Also, it didn't seem to be a big deal since my doctors didn't bother with a dipstick or a glucose test.

I managed a 12km run and a 60km cycle. The day before I dragged into hospital vomiting, I swum a 1km open water. So forgive me for not being intelligent enough to realise that my body was failing. I wouldn't have thought that I would still be able to run or cycle or swim any kind of distance with a blood sugar level of 37 and severe diabetic ketoacidosis.

One thing I will say is that my doctors did nothing. They did not pick it up. They left me, very literally, to crumble. The A&E staff and the nurses in critical care picked up the pieces that my severely lacking in intelligence self didn't manage to pick up and my useless doctors overlooked.

kalidasa · 17/07/2012 17:29

I think that might be true for a blood test result, because it shows up there first. Could that be what it meant? In the US it seems to be more standard to ask for (and get) an early blood test done whereas in the UK a GP will just laugh if you ask . . . Though even then 7-10 days seems early given the range of healthy possible implantation dates.

CaveMum · 17/07/2012 17:17

Definitely tosh! The stats I have read say that even at 10dpo you only gave a 65% chance of getting an accurate result. All of the tests say "99% accurate" and then the small print says "from the first day your period is due" or the like!

Rie, yes I was starting to feel like Dr Frankenstein - my creation had got out of my control Wink

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Fuckitthatlldo · 17/07/2012 16:43

Well just to add something else into the mix, I was in Waterstones today reading a TTC/pregnancy book, and the esteemed doctor who wrote it stated that women will get an accurate pregnancy test result when testing as early as 7 - 10 days post ovulation 91 - 97 percent of the time.

Eh? I thought... that can't be right.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid · 17/07/2012 16:31

Blimey Cavey, bet you didn't envisage your thread going in this direction Grin

I have something to day about Dizziness. On about my third cycle of TTC (oh how very, very long ago it seems), I had a terribly spinny head and felt like I was going to pass out a lot. "Oh you're definitely pregnant!" they all cried. I wasn't of course; I had a virus. I think that's the type of thing that Kick is on about, perhaps?

cheeseandmushroomtoastie · 17/07/2012 15:44

Not sure if this has been added already but not every woman ovulated x days after cd1, I don't anyway!

Will read the thread properly later, good idea though OP to start this thread.

Alabama100 · 17/07/2012 15:42

To add yes it is alot to spot symptoms in hindsight but I was pg prior to my dd. That one ended in a mc and at the time and had no symptoms that. Think everyone and every pg is different. Good luck to those ttc now or waiting to conceive. Sending good vibes. Lets have some positively :-)

Alabama100 · 17/07/2012 15:35

Kick sorry my apologises.

wilderumpus · 17/07/2012 13:55

aw cave I haven't said that, nor would I. Maybe we all have a home where we feel comfortable (not pissed off with others rantings) but also think that people who have been around for a while can be helpful too!

I am sure this thread will help anyone who doesn't know much about ttc.

Maybe we peeps who do our own research and reading find it frustrating that others are a bit crackers about symptoms/cycles etc... but we all have to learn, in our own ways, in our own time too :)

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