The Rat Smackteers will get their BFPs and they'll BROOK NO ARGUMENT

keep good luck to MrKeep for tomorrow, fx for his aim

maybe we had planned to do the charlbury beer festival on saturday but the weather forecast was so appalling that even with our tents and waterproofs we decided we would probably be best giving it a miss. We pooled our beer money together and bought the first box set of GoT though, so at least this cycle's foreplay is now sorted

maybe really? I couldn't find anything about CPs bringing AF forward on the internet, mostly it was people saying AF was late so I put it down to the agnus castus which I have heard can shorten rather than lengthen the LP in some people. Ok, so maybe I don't need to have glow in the dark wee then...

cartoon yes, I tested positive two days in a row, but the second day was much fainter than the first and within 20 minutes of testing I was bleeding very heavily.

frootz !!! well hello there stranger :) You are very brave to try to hold off from the obsessing temping etc. I'm not quite sure how I managed to hold off for 11 years, I think it was only because I was in complete ignorance of so much! My ov symptoms are mostly cramping, EWCM and cervix position - definitely higher and softer towards ov time, but it still varies so much day to day that I couldn't use it alone to pinpoint ov. I tend to have the raging horn from CD1 so that is no help to me :)

sweetie and keep I missed mentioning earlier, you are both quite right and it is very promising that there is proof that MrSwimmy and MrsEggy are doing well with their speed dates. I just worry that a) we've been trying for so long - these are almost certainly not the only cps I've had, just the only ones i've known about, so what is my body doing wrong that it can't keep them; and b) with MrGeek's diabetes, sperm DNA fragmentation is a huge risk and it could be that his sperm is simply no longer capable of creating a viable embryo. I am a born worrier, so these kinds of things do tend to go round and round my head a lot.

I've managed to wangle an early finish so am back home at about the time I would have been leaving the office, yay! Now, what to do since I have the whole evening (and the whole house!) to myself for a night...

frootz where have you been? Love how you've created a new category for me!! Brooking that you're right of course!!!

Anything for an afternoon off!

maybe I have every intention of going to work tomorrow, just resting tonight, but I've still got a bad head and feel a bit queasy so will have to play it by ear

FrootZ! Long time no see! How are you? Ov symptoms. Lots of EWCM. The raging horn. Crampy womble type pains, and sometimes feel a bit sick. I have found that temping makes me less crazy!

Well said Face

sparks since most of us would agree u are preggers i think that makes u a BEPP (brooker endorsed pregnant person)

if u tested again would u still get a faint line then ud not for def as doesnt it take a while for the hcg levels to drop?

Geek I have also heard that they cause bright yellow wee. Haven't taken them myself though. I don't think it has shortened your LP though, with one of my chemicals I have a fant line then AF came early.

Forgot to mention - the only time I've ever been in an ambulance Sonic the Hedgehog was running down the road after it, catching yellow coins falling from the lamp posts. I was on gas & air at the time though...

Oh Sparks loveloy, you poor thing. I would say was it the heat, but we all know that would not be the case. You are quite clearly diffed, it's just too early for the HCG. I do hope you are having tomorrow off too to rest.

I am rehearsing my networking. How about 'hello, my names Maybe. I would like a job in your company thank you please. I'll teach you how to smack a rat.'

Geek that is most definitely a line you saw, the pink dye tests don't lie. You poor thing. Bravo MrGeek for being a star though. Have you got a nice weekend planned? I seem to remember something about a beer festival. Funny, as there is one on here too this weekend!

maybe My idea of networking is talking to people on the internet sorry, no earthly help to you whatsoever!

sparks ooh err missus! Diffed for deffo! Hope it's just the weather and the excitement of not quite seeing the queen that got to you rather than anything more serious. How exciting that you got the queen's own royal paramedic looking after you!

cartoon thank you :)

keep I know... I just didn't believe that I was getting lines. It's more tests than you know, because I ended up doing 'control' tests yesterday, with plain water, to make sure they weren't evap lines!

Is anybody else here taking B50 complex tablets? I started taking them yesterday in the hope of prolonging my LP which now appears to be down to 10 days but now I have neon yellow wee!

face I went in one for work once, got vvv car sick! Was embarrassing...

maybe I Hate networking, and I hate that its necessary too. I tend to hide in the loo or on blackberry during conferences so am no help to you...

geek that's lots of tests!

Mrk has a date with a pot tomorrow too geek. I can't help out this time though as have to leave early for work

sparks poor you! What's the reason? Preg, but too early for a test

ha ha sparks im sorry dont know im finding that whole thing funny. id have been gutted always wanted to go in a ambulance!

geek dont feel bad for winging im queen of wingers and at the moment find it really hard not to just focus on my own crap and remeber other peole are having a hard time too so winge away

Didn't get to see the queen, was slumped up against a tree instead, passed out while waiting for her!! Just spent last couple of hours in A&E having blood pressure taken and sugar levels!!! A&E doc wanted to take urine sample to do preg test, told him to not be so daft because I was only 5/7DPO (he did one anyway, which was BFN obviously) so now I'm on my way home with raging head ache under orders to rest and drink plenty of fluids!!

Dramatic thing was they couldn't get an ambulance to me (didn't need one to be fair) so the VIP paramedic and 2 secret service guys had to escort me round to A&E more fuss than the queen!!!

Thank you ladies, you are all so lovely

sparks I demand to know what this drama is, I'm all emotional and everything so if I have to stamp my foot it won't be pretty! I'm rather convinced it's not an evap line, even though I tried to tell myself initially it was, because I got the same result on an IC, an FRER, a Superdrug and a Clear Blue. Got the same result, but fainter, the next day (the day of AF). Loving that you are next in line for the throne! I missed my chance to practice my curtsey as I managed to get yesterday as a working from home day.

keep that is really weird - I know it sounds daft, but it couldn't have been a bird, or even some random falling object could it? I just can't understand why someone would break a windscreen only to not steal the desirables.

sweetie I recently picked up a fab new thermometer from Superdrug. £14.99, but it genuinely takes your temp accurately in 10-20 seconds. I've tested it extensively against my old (still functional but takes forever) thermometer and it's spot on. I think it's by Braun. Could you not swap the battery from your new dodgy thermometer into your old luffly one?

keep I think the CBFM was born confused, and there is nothing you can do to un-confuse it! It'll do no harm to not turn it on/use it over the weekend.

thank you gen :) I just hate to always sound like I am whingeing, and it was a pretty full-on mini meltdown so probably best that it is not recorded in writing!

cartoon I am actively planning on being a preggers bride, I want a whacking great bump in my photos. I've been engaged for 9 years now, we've always said we would get married when we had enough saved up for a fab honey moon but since we spent every penny we own on the house that just isn't going to happen. Next best thing is to waddle down the aisle almost nine months gone I'd also say to not wait, as you don't know how long it will take.

maybe thank you, you are right of course, it's just so easy to lose perspective when the hag arrives.

Feeling a bit better now that the pain and bleeding is subsiding a little, I'm actually managing to do some work in the office today. Told MrGeek at lunchtime that it was a CP, he has been fab. He has lots of work stress going on at the moment, but as always he's really supportive and has stopped threatening to hand his notice in phew He's off to Cardiff again this afternoon, back late evening tomorrow so it will be supernoodles for one tonight, whilst I plan MrGeek's homecoming SFF (got to refresh his boys, he needs to have abstained for just 2-3 days before his date with Monday's jar!). keep your comment about the bj really did make me laugh out loud, I just hope I won't follow in your footsteps if AF is still with me on Friday!

never networked in my life! do u not just make sure u get introduced to a lot of people and hand out ur card?
glad its fixed keep
sparks wots happened?

That's cleared that one up then Keep. You probably can't say anything. Bloody annoying though.

You lot are a confident bunch of ladies. I have a medical communications 'networking' event tomorrow. I have no idea how to network Help please.

Whaaaat?? You can't do that, sparks

Car fixed, the autoglass man said it wad most likely my neighbour who mowed his lawn at the front last night, kicked up one if the pebbles on shared drive. Don't think I can really say anything though, can I, as no proof?

Who is Soarks?

Whats up Soarks? Hope everything is ok?

Quick message from teamsecret drama over here, crazy mental drama but I'll fill you in later when I get home xxx

Sparks that deffo makes you royal. In fact, it makes me royal, as I know you, and you know the Queen.

Swwetie all this temp gate drama! Maybe get a new thermometer? Mine jumped up again this morning, so I definitely think the egg has landed. So after two accus, ov has moved forward by 3 days! Bazinga.

Keep I also think it must have been another car kicking something up. Hope they come and fix it soon for you.

Face you are right, every month seems like a lifetime sometimes.

keep thats awful and strange nothing was taken.
really sorry geek be as mememe as you want.
how can u tell the diff between a real faint line and a evap line?
10months seems a life time in ttc doesnt it so i dont think i could wait until after the wedding! and so hard to gage how long it mite take. the first time took 5/6 months but we werent trying particularily but not trying not to be pregnant iyswim so some of those months we couldve completely miossed the window. this time took 2months but fertility is higher after mc and i was trying to make sure we did it at the correct times. but i guess they are not good indications as falling preg quick one time doesnt mean i will next time does it?
i guess it may also take months for whatever tests and stuff the clinic will do so that will delay any ttc.

Geek, so sorry to hear your news, but please don't feel you can't come on the thread. We are always here and brooking for each other. Hope you get some better luck this month.