The BESH Republic Of Rulvakia

Good for you for taking care of yourself and heading home, Cavelina. The nurse's attitude seems spot on re: moving on the next thing.

Oh cavey :( are you having any clomid for this cycle? Lots to get your head round and you're definitely entitled to a chocolate run and a snuggle with the cat!

lems personally I would probably go for it but then I'm a head first kinda gal. I wouldn't be satisfied with the vagueness and wouldn't want to leave that stone unturned....but that's just me!

Finally got appointment and with nice doc who did original urology referral so that is good. What a palaver though!

Hi all, I'm back at home having had a wobble at work after talking to the clinic. I spent 15 mins sobbing in the toilet at work before puling myself together enough to tell my boss I was feeling ill and needed to go home.

That's the first time I've had a meltdown at work

The upshot of my chat with the clinic is that the Dr thinks Clomid is not working for me and there is no point in changing the dose. They'd only change the dose if it wasn't working at all, whereas for me it seems to be intermittent. Of course my reaction to this was as above.
I spoke to HWHNN who offered to call the clinic back for me and talk about the next step. Bless him. The nurse (same one) was lovely again and explained that the next step was likely to be a different drug coupled with follicle scanning. Because the issue is not with egg/sperm quality, more one of timing, they are in no hurry to look at IVF.

The way she explained it to HWHNN, and I just need to learn to get my head straight, is to look on it as a positive step. Clomid is not working so why bother sticking with it, move on to the next step.

So here I am, sniffling away on the sofa with the cat and trying to think positively. I am going to do an emergency chocolate run to the local shop in a bit.

It's great that they got some answers as to why it wasn't happening and were able to treat it. Let's hope after all that you have a nice easy pregnancy!

Did they find endo or do ov drilling or anything?

It's great that you have a natural BFP after so long!

That is good news, queenie. What was your path to diffage?Had you just had a lap or am I thinking of someone else?

Norfy you were lucky with your lap. I had quite a lot of gore. I remember gently soaking the plaster off in the bath and then the water turning pink cos my whole belly button was full of blood! It wasn't bad though, lemons. And if I had been using a mooncup back then I think I would have been totally nonplussed by that quantity of blood!

lemons I am supposed to start downregging at 7dpo so it's a bit early to test beforehand, but I think I will test daily from about 8dpo.

I completely agree with your statement about the problem of being unexplained. I was whining last night that I have a need to know what is wrong.

I am starting to enter pre-IVF panic mode. I spent most of yesterday feeling like I wanted to cry. I've booked in for counselling but couldn't get an appointment until the 25th, when I will be several days into downregging if I start as planned.

GP booking systems are invariably daft. At our one, you have to call at 8am for appointments that day, that could be at any time. There is no prebooking. So, I end up having to bring my laptop and papers home the night before so I can work from home on the offchance that I can get an appointment that day. And if, as often happens, I spend 45 mins trying to get through only to find out when I do that all the appointments have gone, I have to do the same the next day! I have tried to explain that this isn't the best system for those of us who work, but it falls on deaf ears! I hope you can get seen faif.

Boo to stupid Dr's surgery Faith. Can you go to the surgery and camp out demanding to be seen? My Drs will try to slot you in if you do this.

Spoke to clinic and a lovely nurse who agreed that the Clomid is not doing its job in making me ovulate regularly so she's going to talk to the Drs about changing my dose. [crosses fingers]

excessive use of the " " key there. Better check the real docs too!

PS I have made an important appointment for work, opened the relevant bits and pieces on the lap top and done the laundry. A typical home working start of today...

Ready to come over now and knock some sense into that surgery, faith. That is STUPID. Did you mention that you're a) at work and b) have been in pain on and off for months now. GRRRRRRRRRRR

Appointment was on Monday, but it made me more unsure rather than happy. The problem with unexplained really is the unexplainedness of it all . Must now decide what to do (sign up for lap or not, basically).

Grr bloody GP only releasing pm appointments at 12, like you're meant to drop everything at 12 to call them again. I am between two meetings. May have outside chance if I call just before 12! Otherwise I'm off to the walk in centre. What a ridiculous system!
When is your next appointment to disusd options lemmypie?

Good luck naked faith you can do it. They REALLY need to sort you out, it has been way too long. GRRR (I am in a bad mood, so errant GPs, droids, others, send them this way and I'll show them who is boss )

Aha dor I forgot, you had a HSG and clomid? We're talking about superovulation IUI (with injectables) or IVF after the lap... Although I am not sure how much of a help it all will be. I am a bit down about the whole TTC thing. Maybe we could have a comedy win (SB is away and it is shagweek now+I have a new job=instadiff?)

I got diffed the month after I had my tubes cleared. Could be coincidence. Could be the Clomid. I'll never know.

Welcome back lems, twas rather quiet without you. Glad you had a fun, if busy,weekend. Having had one suspected by me chemical pregnancy, I'd say it's rather a hollow victory and not really something to use a measure for useful investigations! But if a lap and dye reveals answers, it might be helpful.
Wish me luck, I'm about to call the GP.

SB places hopes on cleaning out of tubes, because we had a bit of a late droid after the HSG, which he still things was a chemical diff. I don't because I only tested after a few days, BFN and droidal invasion within 24 hours...

GRRR, cave shall I yell at your ovaries. It sounds like they could do with a kicking.

Morning fellow citizens. Welcome back lemony.

Day 32 and still no ov [wails]. Bloody bored of this now. Have to phone the clinic for my blood results today (we all know what they will say) so will ask for advice. My only glimmer of hope is that I ov'd on CD39 last cycle.

[sulks]

Some people say it cleans the tubes out. Though in my case considering I got diffed a couple of weeks later IN MY TUBE, I don't necessarily place much faith in that.

Btw I missed you lot too. But over the weekend things were so fast moving here, every time I looked there was a whole new page of stuff to read and I never quite got to the end.

Home alone now, though, although officially working from home I shall be here on and off.

Thanks nance for your take on lap... I would be excited if there was something TO DO about something. But this is the thing with unexplained, they have no idea why we're not diffed. So the chances are, they'll have a look and say that looks lovely and dandy, like every other bit of my body they've had a look at. Except trombocytes (sp?) - apparently I have to many of them. But not so many we should be worried - so I worry about that. But dr Google only helpfully suggests nasty forms of leukemia if I had many, many more than I have

lemonista! You have been missed. I quite enjoyed my lap&dye. But then I was having ovarian drilling as well, so could get excited about something practical rather than something exploratory, of you see what I mean. It didn't hurt afterwards at all. The only thing I disliked wa having to clean the wounds (which is a melodramatic way of saying "dab the tiny, utterly non-gory cut with wet cotton wool"). I got AMNH to do it for me, because I was a massive nancy squeamish.

Morning Rulvakians!

After a prolonged absence from our easter shores (does Rulvakia have a coastline - I vote for one like the Croatian one) in the land of Fooball, Clinics and Work, I have come back to rest and recuperate...

I missed another DIFF congratulations rolly that is fab news. And massive cluster-diffing. Yay for new blood, we'd be very quiet soon, without it. Welcome al and sorry despite spending most of last night catching up I cannot recall more than you thinking we are normal and quite young for a BESH

Sorry you keep on being poorly faif, you need to get seen and fixed. Very impressed with the SWI persistence. We're in not shagweek, with pant snot and everything, but SB is not here. Hold off egg... And yours too norf. Well done on first day at work!

I want a foot massage, even if it is woo. Glad it makes you feel so spaced and happy euro and wyn. Fingers crossed for last chance diffing, euro. Do you test before starting down-regging?

Contemplating pushing for a lap&dye to exclude endo and sneaky little adhesions, but not looking forward to it. Any ideas?