Hop aboard the Santa sleigh for a festive baby (late Dec /early Jan)

Oh Pipbin and blackcats - I'm so sorry . Not just that you got AF but that she came just after testing. That's really unfair!

SilentMammoth - are you on the VIP service on FF? My free trial just ended and I do miss that little feature that tells you how 'good' you've been!

pipbin i read your post and thought to myself 'oh i know that feeling that's happened to me before', then went back to loo , i had tested this morning first thing , temp up a bit, checked cm internally, cloudy no blood, went ahead and did a test without any real hope- sure enough negative. Anyway second wee of day and I wiped some pink blood. Another internal and more blood. what a coincidence eh??
oh well at least i can definately say i'll be day 5 when i go to have test done on Monday. Good luck to everyone waiting.

AF is a bitch.

So temp high this morning. As high as any time post ov.
Went to the loo, saving my wee in a cup, and nothing. No spotting nothing.
Excitedly I cracked open a test and nothing. Not even a line that I could pretend was a positive.
Wiped again and there she was. Grinning red bitch.

I am 99.9% sure I'm not pg. But that 0.1% is very hopeful.
That has to be the quote of the thread, pipbin.

You know, I did go to church and pray when I was hoping to conceive DS1, but I have a funny feeling that it was the SWI that actually did the trick!

Thanks Lime. Is there anyone here who can have a word with the big man upstairs and ask him to cut me some slack here?
Anyway, as I said I am 99.9% sure I'm not pg. But that 0.1% is very hopeful.

at the thought of FF being pleased with you, Mammoth

Good luck for tomorrow Pipbin. Will be thinking of you until you post!!

Good luck Pipbin!

4dpo and discovered that FF is actually quite pleased with me, SWI'd bang on ov day which was extremely lucky as DH was away CD1-ov dayand again straight after that. Which kind of makes me think It's Meant. Also trying for a boy, as we have 4 (lovely and fantastic) DDs.

So some red spotting after a TMI ALERT poo.

And nothing since that.
I'm sure I'm not PG but if my temp is high and there is no AF tomorrow I'll test.

thanks treats i've made an appointment for Monday just in case. I conceived in November but had a MMC. Since my ERPC my periods have been very weird. If my af this time is as light as the previous 2 have been i will definitely go on Monday , they've been very light with watery pink blood, the odd thing is this cycle i took the combined pill for 4 days then changed my mind (long story there) and the breakthrough bleed was like my normal periods, thicker, darker etc etc. It did start me wondering if my hormones are still messed up. Also, due to the endless spotting i had after the op I had acupuncture treatment twice to try and stop it and both practitioners advised me to get day 3 and day 21 tests done so that they had some more info to go on for treating me. As its almost 3 months since the ERPC i feel its enough time for things to have settled and to start having tests. I turned 44 in Feb, odds are not massively in my favour but i'm not ready to give up yet (i do have an adult child).

Hi blackcats - they would be testing for oestrogen and low levels of Follicle Stimulating Hormone on Day 3 and progesterone on Day 21. You can get the test done anytime between Day 3 and Day 5, so it doesn't matter if Day 3 is a Sunday. I got mine done at the GPs on Monday, but i could have gone to the walkin at the hospital if I hadn't been able to get an appt.

If you go to the GP for fertility issues, it would normally be the first test they do - and send your DP for a sperm test. My GP was very accommodating, but some can be a bit more difficult. I think the guideline is to start doing tests after 12 months of trying.

Pipbin - that's quite encouraging - hope she stays away!

Limeleaf - glad you managed to time it all right.

limeleaf so now you're in the awful 2WW, good luck, sounds like you got to have sex right time, and more than once ( we failed miserably this month due to bad colds) fingers crossed for you.

that's ok limeleaf i often test daily or every other day once i reach a certain point in my cycle. I use the super cheap internet tests so not much money. They are very sensitive- 10 whatever the units are. I'll test again tomorrow unless temp stays down or AF arrives. Yes DP was a bit cheeky, i thought how unusual last night and again this morning, then when we'd finished he looked out of the window and said "oh no it's still pouring down", i jokily said "oh so that's why you wanted to have sex then?", he denied it was the only reason. I didn't mind at all, bring on more rain (especially around OV time) . A power cut too would be good.

sorry blackcats I just realised that you only tested yesterday!

@ blackcats DP, using the rain as an excuse to DTD! Still it is pretty cold and miserable out there. Sorry to hear that you think AF is on her way... when are you planning to test?

Fx for you, pipbin, let us know when you test.

Over here I had a definite high temp this morning - way above usual coverline - so it is clear now that I did Ov earlier than I was expecting. At least I was able to read the signs correctly and did get to BD a couple of days before and just after. So now I am back up on Progesterone Hill (was that Flightty's phrase?) and into my 2ww again.

treats/anyone who knows , are day 3 bloods for testing progesterone? i know they will do that on the NHS but do you have to push for it or is it something they're happy to do?? what happens if day 3 falls on a sunday...

Curiouser and curiouser in the Pipbin house.
Got up this morning and there was heavy spotting. At 12 dpo I thought it must be AF and put my mooncup in before I went for a run.
When I got back there was only a tiny bit of brown blood in there and there has been nothing since.

I will test tomorrow assuming the old witch hasn't turned up.

re OPKS, i find i often don't get an official positive (ie as dark or darker than the control line) . I might start testing more frequently, i do sometimes test twice a day. I count a positive as when the line is darker than day before, if the following day its faded again i know that was it. Its a bit of a pain as the tests take a long time to develop fully (if you want to confirm a negative) , and hiding an OPK stick at work where it cant be seen as i keep an eye on the clock isn't easy (i work front line services!)

well i think its going to be all over for this month. Didn't take temp very accurately, DP decided to stall going out in the rain by getting jiggy (nice surprise as we were amorous last night too), anyway took temp afterwards just out of interest and its way down, not quite below cover line but almost, i guess if it had been done accurately it would be much lower. I have been moody, spotty and craving sweet stodge, usual signs af is on its way. grr...

wiggy as soon as I get EWCM I test every wee. I've found that the I tend to get a positive from my second wee of the day and after that, it fades out.
I test after the positive just out of interest.

Limeleaf- had a baby (well, he's seven now) and just turned 30 so I'm going to investigate the larger size. Thanks for the link, I'm going to have a look in a moment.

Pipbin- That's interesting, do you test once a day? Had a look back through the recent thread but couldn't see if you'd said. I'm going to test every day for the next few so hopefully see something soon. If my guesstimates are right, it should be over the next few days.

wiggy with regards to OPKs. Yes the test line has to be as dark as the control line. Everyone is different but I find that I have no line, then a fade in, positive which lasts for one wee only, fade out, then a faint line until AF.

There are two sizes of mooncup - if you are under 30 and have never vaginally delivered a baby, you take the smaller size, if you are over 30 and / or have had a VB, you take the larger size. Info here

I am mostly at home with the kids but when I am using public toilets I take a small bottle of water in my handbag to rinse it.

lastbox have a fab time in NYC! Hope it doesn't muddle your temping too much!

So the possible O pain that I had last night felt like stitch. A sharp, stabbing pain more on my left side than right, and it was worst when standing up from sitting, or walking around. It only lasted about 2 hours. I wasn't sure as I didn't think I would O for another day or two, but then I had a temp rise this morning. I managed to delay DH before he left for work , but overall I am worried that I have mis-timed it and that we haven't done enough. We'll see...

Well it was negative so might give dtd a miss tonight as done it the past few. There was a second line but very faint so if I've understood correctly, it's not a positive unless it's as dark as the control.

Treats- I don't know yet. I gave up on temping as I couldn't be faffed to set alarm to wake me/ Dp at the same time each day as we get up very early midweek for work as it is. Instead I'm trying OPK, I did one on Sunday that came back negative so I'm trying again today, which reminds me... (goes off to poas).

Pipbin- are they good for those with a heavy cycle and how do you work out what size you are?