The late November/ Early December Transatlantic flight!

I'm also tempted to join those testing tomorrow but given that I'll only be 11 days past (assumed) ovulation then I'm going to try my bestest to wait another week. I say assumed ovulation becuase I am not temping and was using ebay cheapie ov sticks, and got 2 faint lines on 2 consecutive days, and absolutely no hint of a line all the other days. I know that this is not a positive, but I was testing once a day at about 6pm, so I think from what I've read that I may have missed the strong surge that would give a good line. That's my theory anyway, will probably start being a bit more proactive from next month with temping and the like if we're not lucky this month.

AF due Wednesday. Had some cramping at around 7dp(a)o and am weirdly hopeful this month, can't put my finger on why?! I still maintain that positive thinking can't hurt though!
Really good luck to all those testing!

MrsT maybe you should wait a couple of days to test again if AF doesn't arrive? I would be tempted to join everyone testing tomorrow but realisitically it would probably be better to wait a bit longer.

Fingers crossed for you and everyone

Oh bollocks I just typed a long post and then managed to loose it.

Roxy, sorry to hear about AF. I think the way you feel is very normal and understandable. I wonder if you have read the book 'Taking Charge of your Fertility'. I only recently got it and it is really interesting. I am now doing the fertility charting which will hopefully help with TTC this time.

Looking forward to having you and Panda and everyone else on the Christmas baby Sleigh.

Tuesday I think your employment concerns are quite valid and worth considering at least. I found the loss of my career and independance quite difficult for a while after I had DC and so it is something to be aware of for sure. I wouldn't change it though! And of course many amazing people do manage to have great careers all through raising a family.

Have you checked out what your maternity allowance situation would be if you did fall pregnant whilst newly unemployed? Look here... might be useful?

AF is due tomorrow but I'm working versus day off today so I cracked. BFN :(

But... technically still early and I have boobs+, sickness, a few very TMI things, and oh my god so hormonal! I don't usually have PMT at all (only when I've come off the pill, which was months ago now) so its all very unusual. So veteran ladies, if AF doesn't arrive tomorrow when would you test? or maybe try a different test as I have been using ebay specials. mmm...

Hi ladies,

After a bit of thought, I've kind of decided that if it doesn't work this month I'm going to take a break from TTC. I'm only employed until October so I don't want to be 6 months pg and unemployed. I also think I'll struggle to get back to the workplace without longer experience in my job. I have been panicking at the thought of 'my youth being behind me' but I think this is tied up with a feeling of losing what I have in terms of independence, social life, spending money etc with having a baby and not having a career to go back to.

I'd be grateful for any thoughts you might have... Anyone gone thru similar?

Aw sorry panda but like your thinking for next month. It sounds very positive already for a Christmas baby for you already. You never know though until AF shows....

I'm not feeling fertilised either, no symptoms (feeling slightly achey but this only seems to happen when i think about it!) and I've had a few pimples which I only get shortly before AF is due. So hard not to try and get your hopes up though.

pipbin my chart looks pretty similar. Some sites say you ov on the drop in temp, others on the next day and then others have a line in between! Looks like you ov between day 19 and 20, with the spike at day 18 thrown in to confuse things. Seems to fit with your opk and cm notes. I have a big spike that doesn't fit in with the rest of my chart on day 10, if I take it out, my chart makes sense.

Sorry roxy :(. Totally understandable to feel jealous, who wouldn't.

I'd second what the others have said about opk sticks, caught very quickly with my DS using them although taking longer this time! One of my friends took 18 months TTC and there was nothing wrong, just pure luck (or maybe thats not the right word). However, she says it was worth the wait for her DD and then went on to have another DD in no time at all. Fingers crossed for a BFP for you and all the other ladies here very soon.

Panda this month is most definately going to be your month :) I'll prob be joining you for a christmas baby as I love christmas too xx

Sorry about AF Roxy...everyone feels jealous when someone gets a BFP, two of my RL friends have recently announced their pregnancys via text, I couldn't even reply for an hour I was soooo jealous, but happy for them both too.

So I'm CD26, 13dpo, AF due Sunday, however last month she was 3 days late, so could turn up anytime until Wednesday (also if she doesn't turn up at all and I am ( whispers ) pregnant, then I may not get BFP until Wednesday.

So I'm still going to POAS with the gang tomorrow morning, but I'm not holding my breath, don't feel pregnant at all. Any cramps and twinges I had have disappeared and I can't say I've felt dizzy or sick :( so coupled with the fact that I don't think we DTD enough around ov (I ov a day earlier than I expected) I'm pretty sure this isn't my month.

Morning ladies!

I caved and just POAS and, unsurprisingly, got a BFN. But I had resigned myself to that anyway and have now decided that next month will be our month because (1) it will be cycle 4 and 4 has always been my lucky number (2) the conception will be on a lovely holiday and (3) it will result in a Christmas baby and I love Christmas!! . So I'm going to hop on another flight but will be checking in tomorrow to see all the fabulous BFPs that are going be announced!

Roxy sorry AF got you & nobody would judge you for feeling like that as its totally natural.

I can't provide any real tips - I have found it embarrassingly easy to get my BFPs, just need to have this 1 stick!!! I do know that in cycle 1 of TTC we didn't DTD at the right time (which is cd14 for me - DD DTD cd14, last time DTD cd13&14, BFP, this time DTD cd14&15, BFP) as I had cystitis; think we DTD cd12 which should be close enough for the sperm to survive but wasn't, clearly, so its possible you're missing your window... I used OPKs this month, got a really obvious positive, DTD (cd15), so it might work for you too. Fingers crossed for next month.

Pipbin again, totally understandable if you feel jealous. It's such an emotional thing and when it doesn't happen 'for no good reason', it is very frustrating. Fingers crossed this is your month!

MummyNic does seem odd; POAS anyway, just for fun. Join in the Sat POAS-fest

Roxy for DS I used ovulation sticks, nothing else. Cheap Superdrug own brand ones... Turned out we were dtd too early. Once I saw the blue line if ovulation we dtd and 9 months later I had DS. Really was that easy
But I had years of pain & surgery before that due to endometriosis so I believe Fate / God / my Nana were rooting for me on 12th Feb 2008 at about 9pm

Like the theory that boobs have already been stretched. Nipples hurt tonight, AF showed on Monday but hasn't taken hold, she was actually due yesterday (so was 2 days early), I've had no real discomfort... 4 weeks ago tomorrow I was soooo heavy & in pain that the pharmacist nearly rang an ambulance when I staggered in for pain relief.... If no advancement on AF symptoms I might poas on Sunday (just to be sure).
Maybe it's early menopause

Aw roxy that sucks. Christmas baby for you perhaps!

My af arrived :( so can I get on the connecting flight please?

Congrats to all so far with bfps. I know it's selfish but I just keep thinking when will it be my turn! This will be cycle 8 ttc #1 anyl tips appreciated x

And there's def one waiting for u primal chic. :) :) :)

(sorry for the mis-spelt of your name limeleaf!)

Limeleave u will have a reserved cabin waiting for u :)

Oh. I wish I were going on the cruise liner.

MummyNic, my boobs didn't hurt 2nd time round, either. I think Chunky's theory might be correct - that they have already done their stretching.

Can't wait to see all your BFPs coming in. Rooting for you gals!

I did exactly the same Candypop & am too scared to jump off this flight at the mo. Maybe in a week or two...

PS candy save a luxury cabin for me please!

Stats to rival my shopping-maths*:

It looks as though we have ladies on this flight who are expecting dear AF over the course of more than a month. It's more 5+ weeks. That means that increases the number of BFPs we can expect on this flight by 20%!

Have spent the afternoon looking at my chart (imported into excel) and pretending it's work. My calculations say that I'm now 4dpo and officially on the 2ww at last. Still going to SWI for another week just to be thorough ;)

*shopping-maths = "if it's half price, you can buy two" diet maths work along the same basic principles.

Hey ladies.... Yes I'm still lurking around here... Feel happier on this flight then attempting to join others! I had a sneaky peak in november 2012 thread but got scared. Too many ppl on there! Nope, I am quite content reading everyones update here ! :)

I've been thinking it would be nice to set up a new thread once we have a few more BFPs to see through the next 9 months. Thinking a carribean cruise liner?! We can sip non alcoholic cocktails and natter while we wait for my BFPs from this flight to join us!

MEanwhile, I am doing my part and sprinkling a whole load of baby dust ... Very excited about Saturday ... Hear to many more BFPs ... This is after all , the flight that beat the statistics !!!

MummyNic I had the whole 'boobs so sensitive they felt like breathing hurt' from before I missed AF with DD but this time it was a dizzy spell & nausea that came first. My boobs are only just starting to feel a bit 'full' now, which is nothing compared to how they were with DD. Not sure whether that's common with DC2 as your boobs have already stretched once, but I'm led to believe they do get more sensitive as time goes on.

PrimalChic is it possible you geared up to ov early but didn't iyswim? Don't chart so can't help there, sorry!!

AF is still nothing more than the blood from an over squeezed zit....
I wonder....
But my boobs don't hurt like they did with DS.
Off to see Billy Connolly tonight.

On the topic of schools: there's only 1 worth attending in the area and the houses are £100k more than ours... They are nice though!!!
DH and I are both academic (dare I say "clever") people so I think, as long as we coach DS / DC they ought to do well wherever they go, it's a matter of studying routines I think. Oh, and buying text books rather than relying on computer programmes such as the dreadful "MyMaths" (a whole other topic that makes my blood boil).