Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Come on down to the shiny new baby-friendly MOSH PIT.

Pebs I agree I wouldn't want to go into work either

So sorry for this for you and horrific that want to make u wait another week , I'd try to get in a bit earlier if I were u cx

Cd21 can't remember who said they were tempted to poas knowing it was too early - well I'm the same and u did this morning a bfn. Only consolation is a bfp may still be possible... Fx

My last cp I poas at d21 with a cb digi and got bfp 1-2 ... 2 days later I got a bfn so I do know better than to test too early but the temptation is too strong.....

pebs, really hope you can be seen again soon. It is so difficult being kept in limbo. I am so sorry you are going through this.

Twins would be lovely. :(

I would not go back to work either. Look after yourself. Xxxxx

Oh pebs I am really sorry but don't give up hope just yet.
Have a big squidgy hug from me.

Grumpus rer accupuncture. I used to go 3 times a week, with the only week not going being the final week of cycle. They give you different treatment at different times of your cycle e.g. encouraging ovulation then encouraging implantation.

NoMoreMarbles that is a horrendous story. I cna't quite believe that people in these jobs can have zero sensitivity.

Oh pebs, that all sounds really weird and stressful, I'm so so sorry.

Do you have the number for your consultant pebs? Might be worth a call to them to see if they can see you earlier than the scan next week

The first scan was done by a consultant and senior registrar so I don't doubt their skills. Todays scan was done by two epu nurses. They couldn't see the twin either until they did the internal scan. I am going for another scan next week but don't hold out much hope really. They said it's hard to see twins at the early scans as they develop at different rates.

I have been taking aspirin everyday but didn't get the injections as I have been spotting since the beginning of this pg.

Not sure what to do about work really will have a think today

Oh pebs so so sorry it wasn't good news don't force yourself to go to work stay home take care of yourself and post here with us as often as you need to {{{{{{hugs}}}}}}

Oh pebs I am so sorry to hear this development, how strange?

I would personally be questioning the skill of the sonographer at this stage, how did they not find the 2nd twin first time? Is it possible he/she also missed the heartbeat? Can you go for a rescan? Have they started you on the clexane yet?
I really hope it does not come to this but could it be that your clotting issues are attacking the fetus earlier this time?
How do you feel? I know that working would distract me and keep my mind off things but you must do what feels right for you.

tit I have no words!

Having a nightmare here not sure what is going to happen. I went for my scan (should be about 8 weeks) but they couldn't find the heartbeat (there was one at 6 weeks). The sonographer asked if I wanted a tv scan as she couldn't see much on the abdominal scan. I said ok and she found a second baby but still no heartbeat. As they only found one baby last time they have to re scan in a week to see if everything is still the same as they can't end the pregnancy with this new development.

I don't think anything will change so now I have to wait a week before being told I have mc'd again.

I am gutted as I would have loved twins. This mc is totally different to my last ones as they happened at 12 and 20 weeks. Hopefully they will be able to run tests to find our what has happened.

I don't know wether to go to work and carry on as normal or just wait at home until I get the confirmation next week.

Age is a big thing, I had my first mc at the age of 17 and yes it was an accident but I was happy and was willing to grow up quickly and look after my babies (twins) when I mced them both the consultant who saw me was disgustingly harsh in the end he was struck off for gross misconduct. He scraped me with scissors because he couldn't find a swab to hand and left me with a nasty infection and then commented "Oh yes, complete miscarriage, you'll be glad I expect, now go along like a good girl and try not to be so sill next time" it was awful, really messed me up for a while.

Anyway back to more pleasant topics, I am munching mini caramel cheesecakes I do fancy a cuppa though, anyone fancy making me one? White, decaf, 1 sugar, thanks :o

The weather is lovely here, I wish I had a nice garden to be sitting in, luckily we are getting it landscaped soon so hopefully by the time summer is really here I can chill out there like a beached whale

martha whoop for good cramps, I'm cd 21 today if going by erpc bring cd1 (I know how disillusioned I sound). I don't think I'll make it to the big cd 28, I never had a full 28 day cycle before so I'm hoping to know what's going on soon.
The attitude to youth is too true. I am not that young but look much younger. Every health professional I had to see when I was pregnant would always tilt their hide to the side then say 'did you mean to get pregnant?'. they might as well of called me 'poppet'. Loved the 'oops,that sounded a bit porn-y'!! Brilliant. Fingers super crossed for you.

marbles hope you're relaxing up and that you're feeling a little better.

I must actually get up and start getting ready for work soon. Really can't be arsed.

martha the stretchy pains sound good i fear i would be no help in the not-POAS-camp as i am a self confessed POAS addict but you know its far too early...but the temptation...its a killer i was indeed watching homes under the hammer we are renovating the kitchen and bathroom in the net few months so i am a little obsessed with the home improvement programmes i start the countdown to AF on or around CD20 so it is sort of a hurdle i agree about the "young" point too...although she was not much older by looks so to be so patronising was a shock to the system to say the least...

marbles x posted. F*ck me. That is unbelievable. Cant imagine how you found the strength to go back in. I just hope it can only get better and that the junior doctor lost or job,or something terrible. How dare they treat people like that. It can only get better than that x

marbles that sounds like a wonderful breakfast. The few weeks leading up to Christmas,I had a warmed mince pie with a dollop of clotted cream on top every morning. I felt guilty for about half a second then very pleased with myself for the rest of the day. I watched Grey's Anatomy last night and threw a book at OH when he said 'this is the worst show ever made'. Sadder than playing 3 hours of Halo with 16 year olds in Germany? I think not.. It is the ultimate guilty pleasure. Feel better my love (chugs the custard with gusto)

martha Jeez. That sounds truly awful. I can't believe they have that system. I really hope that you don't have to go through that again. I am glad that I had privacy with my erpc at least. After four scans in the same room and felt a bit like a regular (the secretary remembered my name and details etc). I couldn't imagine having to be surrounding by the gleeful new mums. Is that the only facility near you? Mine is the only choice, I shall just have to try and keep my pulse rate down if I have to go there again.

martha our local hospital doesnt have an EPU either...we have gynae emergency- not a nice place and its where i MCed my first and was aggressively "interrogated" by a junior doctor about my dates and what i had done to cause my MC i was 20 years old, very upset and distraught and losing ALOT of blood. she asked my BF at the time to leave the cubicle (i MCed behind a curtain on a bedpan) and asked me how far along i really was as the "products" dont measure right for my dates i stated i had sex on X date, i got a positive test on X date i have had sex once with 1 man during that time period, the man whom i was currently with (we had broken up not long before i found out i was preg) by my reckoning i was no less than 14 weeks and by my LMP i was 14+2/3 she stated the 'foetus' measures at 12-13 week size. have i been drinking heavily or taking drugs to cause this? etc it was the most horrifically traumatic experience i have ever been through and it is where i would have to return for monitoring if i ever get far enough in a pregnancy again and have issues i am going to push for one to one treatment from my consultant in the RMC unit though as i cant imagine ever feeling comfortable visiting that place (i had a panic attack when i had to go there at 12 weeks with DD as i had cramping and felt rotten (UTI) and DH had to practically drag me in)
wow that was a bit long winded sorry...the point is i completely understand...

thanks martha and grumpus im snuggled up on the couch in my onsie( its so cosy) watching greys anatomy and home renovation programmes i also have apple pie and custard to share and to hell with the fact that its 11am

marbles I'm sorry to hear that you're still feeling rubbish,I really hope that those doctor types will sort your pains and maladies out. Meanwhile,I think you're decision for another duvet day is the best. Snuggle up and box set the day away. I can not recommend The West Wing enough for escapism and making days fly by! I just finished my book this morning, stayed in bed and relaxed,it felt very therapeutic. Really hope you feel better soon,thanks for the heads up on Sheeran,I am staying away from everything like that at the moment.

Morning all mmm smoked salmon and croissants... Thanks

I have decided on another duvet day here seeing as how the Dr has referred me for tests and consultant visit for my chest/shoulder issue that seems to be getting worse appears to be lupus related but I have to get the consultant to agree before any sort of treatment plan can be agreed

Ok so off to read through the thread...

Just had a little cry too (whatever you do don't watch "small bump by ed sheeran" on you tube brutal

Oh no! How remiss of me! If only you had brought kippers martha then I could give myself a well deserved stinky slap round the chops! I will do better. Tbh, yours sounds freaking awesome (shamefacedly tucks in). I would promise a slap up eggs benedict for tomorrow but unfortunately I will be retiring to bed at 7 am, so I would burn it and then split the hollandaise then throw the whole thing on the floor in disgust. It would not be pretty.

I would be really loathed to have to go back to that epau department again,although the nurses were really lovely. I think I would use some of my grafted for pennies and have a private scan if everything were to happen again. I doubt I could sit in that particular little room again. Fingers crossed that I will have to make those decisions at some bear point in the future!

Morning all

Thank you all for such a lovely welcome, it feels safe and secure here and I'm glad I'm in the mosh pit. Don't worry, I don't feel comfy enough to just sit around in my pants yet,but the slippers and pyjama bums are definitely donned.

missC and Tiago, so glad that the ease has worried a bit, the phrase swishing around in there made me smile. And how lovely to see a hb farfalla , you must be thrilled.

twolittle I hated the doctors in our local epau. The first scan I had seemed to just show an empty sac, being my first one, I had no clue what this meant. The doc literally just said 'well, can't tell much from that, come back in two weeks'. I shuffled out in a daze, not having the wherewithal to shake some compassion into the man. I would have squirted him in the eye with belly jelly if I wasnt such a mess.
jaffa glad that you have started feeling upchucky! Hope you feel sick at convenient times,not when driving on an A road with nowhere to stop! My steering wheel still hasn't fully recovered.
IQ how lovely to hear about your progress, am really looking forward to you regaling terrifying us with your birth story soon! I was a bit concerned that sis was going to try and steal my chosen favourite name I had lined up, it's a family name which makes it fair game I guess. I don't think I could talk to her again, I fully understand you wanting to slap her silly!
tas thank you for that message, I smiled knowingly about people 'not getting it'. OH's sis, has literally just POAS'd! I am going to do things so differently next (positive!) time. Just feeling like I'm wishing my life away in two week chunks at the moment. Glad to hear that counselling worked for you, I think I'm going to give it a go at work, they've offered me it (protocol rather than sympathy) so I may as well.
grand I would love some Green & Blacks, I just devoured my tub of that inonesitting so bring it on.

Yesterday's 12 hour day with no time to eat was rubbish. I know that my job and it's ridiculous hours can't be good for ttc. I've been recommended an acupuncturist and am off there next week hopefully. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for it being relaxing but without the plinky plonky whale music that always makes me want to pee. Issues anyone know if there is a time of month that is is bad or good to go if ou are ttc? Would love to optimise its uses.

Have a wonderful day y'all xx